[jbarnett83]

Originally Posted by AbraCalabro

I was on board with you until I read that last paragraph. You sound reminiscent of BNC in his post. What's SAD is that you actually believe that non-sense and its interesting to note that you use the word industry (instead of HOBBY) before adding that this thread hurts anyone involved (in the industry as you put it). What's hurting this hobby, is people like BNC trimming, or having cards trimmed so he can get a bump in the grade and moving them on while buyers remain ignorant on the card's history. What's hurting this hobby are people who will pander and butt-kiss to defend people who have been revealed to alter cards with no shame, no guilt, no concern whatsoever, because they only care about the bottom line. What's hurting this hobby are people who will speak up for individuals like BNC to play the politics game and remain in good graces so they can get cards they desire. (In dealing with BNC, so they can overpay egregiously to get the cards they desire, but that's beside the point.)

In reviewing your posts, if you were so concerned with getting the truth out there and making sure collectors had facts, you would have posted the evidence you had on the sale up front. If you want to convince people, don't talk down to them for being suspicious, that paints you as ignorant. You're a big time collector with millions of dollars in cards and you're surprised, or offended people are suspicious of the sale? Have you been living under a rock? It's true, you did not make the thread desperately trying to convince us of the sale's legitimacy, but you did not do yourself any favors in how you presented yourself. All this talk about true collectors and passion and joy and you think this is an industry...and you're calling this thread damaging. What's damaging is BNC's behavior and his actions and furthermore, "big time" collectors like you coming to his aid. We've already seen one person step in a big pile of doodoo for BNC and it didn't do him any favors, except maintain relations with a known trimmer.

This is a HOBBY to a lot of people and we all have a right to be upset, especially considering the evidence that has been posted. No one picks up a card and decides to collect because they want to make a rich man out of someone co-opting their hobby for financial gain...through iniquitous means at that.

You posted this, along with a microscopic picture of the 9.5 you picked up. I'm sure you would still be elated at getting the card for 250k, even if the card were altered, right? Eyyyy, but this thread is damaging.

I don’t know how to post gifs but if I did it’d be one with a standing ovation, Well said