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Old 05-01-2019, 04:33 PM   #8
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Originally Posted by majestik101 View Post
Nice work. As for that Unitas, 2001 Upper Deck Legends is notoriously fake and it's no secret that Unitas autographs are one of the most counterfeited in the industry.
Thank you for the info. I don't really do football so I wasn't sure how much of this information was already out there. Glad to hear the hobby is already aware of that set.

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So the only difference you can tell is the signature from the scans? That's still very alarming.

It's very alarming that a lot of recent autograph cards are being forged as well (like Panini) and passing BGS and PSA.
Yes, the fake Panini draft autographs definitely come to mind. But those and many of the other recent forgeries were created from the ground up, so there are lot's of issues with the cards (RC logo on panini autos is the giveaway, for instance). But that's why they are able to pass PSA -- under a microscope, they're still crisp and high res because rather than scanning the cards, the forgers recreated them from scratch.

These forgeries are created from scans, so they're identical, just lower resolution and quality. That being said, on a lot of these there are still things you can look for that give the card away without even having to look at the autograph or evaluate the quality of the image/cardstock in hand. They couldn't just scan the card and call it a day, there were still elements that have to be created from scratch, and those were the ones they messed up on.

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Any idea how long these fakes have been around?
From what I can tell, the oldest are at least 3 years. The Kobe Ovation autos seem to be a bit more recent. If the Kobe Hardcourt autos are being faked, those would be within the last 6 months or a year from what I can tell. Could be totally off on that though...
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