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corndog · 10-23-2019, 05:05 PM

It took me a while to figure this one out (I think). I came across this string of vintage graded PSA 10s several weeks ago and couldn't pin down who submitted them. I have typically seen the usual masked VCP ID of b***y when I find the before purchases, but it wasn't the case this time. The submission numbers in the cards that I am about to post begin with 27755431 and end with 27751452 and total 21 cards. There are three different initial VCP purchase IDs involved that include an unknown Ebay ID with the masked Ebay ID of 9***9 and VCP masked ID of e***c, and an unknown Ebay ID with a masked Ebay ID of p***e and a matched VCP masked ID of p***e and a VCP masked ID of t***9 . While I cannot confirm a link between the three, they do seem to be from the same submission and all of the after sales were through PWCC with many being sold on the same date.

The majority of the posted card images have poor first sale scans or only a front scan that I could not 100% confirm a match. I posted the first scans that I am confident are a match.

In a sequentially numbered stretch of 21 PSA certs, there are 13 vintage PSA 10s - most trimmed and the others with no prior sale found. In that 21 card range there were 10 consecutive 10s given by PSA's experts. I believe the odds of that occurring with 50+ year old trimmed cards is astronomical without insider assistance from within PSA.

Any help in identifying these three masked VCP ID's would be greatly appreciated.

The cards are as follows:

#27755431 - PSA 10 - 1960 Parkhurst Jack McIntyre #24
Could not find a prior sale. Sold by PWCC on 11/27/17 for $2,024.00.

#27755432 - PSA 9 - 1960 Parkhurst Barry Cullen #32
Could not find a prior sale. Sold by PWCC on 10/26/17 for $88.66.

#27755433 - PSA 9 - 1960 Parkhurst Henri Richard #47
Purchased by e***c on 6/12/17 as a PSA 8 for $250.00.
Sold by PWCC on 10/26/17 for $379.00. Only a front scan provided. Trimmed on right edge.
PSA Set Registry: George's Gems

#27755434 - PSA 9 - 1961 Topps Murray Balfour #33
No sale record in VCP.

#27755435 - PSA 8 - 1961 Topps Doug Harvey #45
Could not find a prior sale. Sold by PWCC on 10/26/17 for $59.00.

#27755436 - PSA 9 - 1962 Parkhurst Jean Beliveau #39
Purchased by e***c on 12/01/16 as a PSA 8 for $110.95.
No sale record on VCP.

#27755437 - PSA 10 - 1963 Parkhurst Dick Duff #4
Purchased by e***c on 03/27/17 as a PSA 8 for $36.00.
Sold by PWCC on 11/27/17 for $561.00.
Poor first scan. Borders and mis-registered colors match (not 100% though). Trimmed right edge.
PSA Set Registry: George's Gems

#27755438 - PSA 10 - 1963 Parkhurst Ed Litzenberger #6
Purchased by e***c on 03/27/17 as a PSA 8 for $30.00.
Sold by PWCC on 11/27/17 for $235.50.
Poor first scan. Borders, smudges, and mis-registered colors match (not 100% though). Trimmed left and bottom edges.
PSA Set Registry: private

#27755439 - PSA 10 - 1963 Parkhurst Bob Nevin #10
Purchased by e***c on 03/27/17 as a PSA 8 for $36.00.
Sold by PWCC on 11/27/17 for $787.00.
Poor first scan. Borders, smudge, and mis-registered colors match (not 100% though). Trimmed right edge.
PSA Set Registry: George's Gems

#27755440 - PSA 10 - 1963 Parkhurst Bob Pulford #12
Purchased by e***c on 05/23/17 as a PSA 8 for $30.00.
Sold by PWCC on 11/27/17 for $257.00.
Poor first scan. Borders, smudge, and mis-registered colors match (not 100% though). Trimmed right edge.
PSA Set Registry: Martin the Erudicious Hockey Antiquarian

#27755441 - PSA 10 - 1963 Parkhurst Pete Goegan #43
Purchased by e***c on 05/23/17 as a PSA 8 for $30.00.
Sold by PWCC on 11/27/17 for $699.00.
Poor first scan. Borders, smudge, print spots match (not 100% though). Trimmed left and right edges.
PSA Set Registry: George's Gems

#27755442 - PSA 10 - 1963 Parkhurst Billy McNeill #56
Purchased by e***c on 05/28/17 as a PSA 8 for $24.99.
Sold by PWCC on 11/27/17 for $678.00.
Poor first scan. Borders, smudge, print spots match (not 100% though). No conclusive evidence of trimming.
PSA Set Registry: private

#27755443 - PSA 10 - 1963 Parkhurst Kent Douglas #67
Could not locate a prior sale.
Sold by PWCC on 11/27/17 for $777.00.
PSA Set Registry: rjmjr

#27755444 - PSA 10 - 1963 Parkhurst Bob Pulford #72
Purchased by e***c on 03/27/17 as a PSA 8 for $25.00.
Sold by PWCC on 11/27/17 for $326.00.
Poor first scan. Borders, smudge, print spots match (not 100% though).
Trimmed left and right edges.
PSA Set Registry: I've clearly gone INSANE!

#27755445 - PSA 10 - 1963 Parkhurst Ron Stewart #74
Purchased by e***c on 03/20/17 as a PSA 8 for $38.00.
Sold by PWCC on 11/27/17 for $1,236.00.
Poor first scan. Borders, smudge, print spots match (not 100% though).
Trimmed bottom edge.
PSA Set Registry: George's Gems

#27755446 - PSA 10 - 1963 Parkhurst Ralph Backstrom #83
Purchased by p***e on 03/20/17 as a PSA 8 for $38.00.
Sold by PWCC on 11/27/17 for $372.00.
Borders, smudge, print spots match.
Trimmed left edge.
PSA Set Registry: George's Gems

#27755447 - PSA 9 - 1963 Parkhurst Jean Beliveau #89
No sale found.
PSA Set Registry: none

#27755448 - PSA 9 - 1963 Parkhurst Terry Harper #91
Purchased by p***e on 03/20/17 as a PSA 8 for $43.99.
Sold by PWCC on 10/26/17 for $72.00.
Good front and back scans to verify a match - only posted the front scan since there is enough to confirm a match. Borders, smudge, print spots match.
Trimmed left and top edges.
PSA Set Registry: none

#27755449 - PSA 10 - 1963 Parkhurst Gump Worsley #98
No prior graded sale found.
Sold by PWCC on 11/27/17 for $932.79.
PSA Set Registry: none

#27755450 - PSA 9 - 1965 Topps Gerry Cheevers #31
Purchased by t***9 on 06/20/17 as a PSA 8 for $431.00.
Sold by PWCC on 11/30/17 for $1,525.51.
Borders, smudge, print spots match.
Trimmed left edge.
PSA Set Registry: none

#27755451 - PSA 10 - 1965 Topps Yvan Cournoyer #76
No prior graded sale found.
No record of sale as a PSA 10 (see next line)
PSA Set Registry: PRIVATE

#27755452 - PSA 8 - 1971 O-Pee-Chee Ken Dryden #45
Purchased by e***c on 06/05/17 for $699.99 as a PSA 8.
Regraded a PSA 8 and sold by PWCC on 10/26/17 for $592.00.
Took a loss and there was no evidence of trimming.
PSA Set Registry: none

10-23-2019, 05:05 PM	#1935
corndog BODA Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: From a table in McDonalds, with lovely fake flowers on it. Posts: 18,207	It took me a while to figure this one out (I think). I came across this string of vintage graded PSA 10s several weeks ago and couldn't pin down who submitted them. I have typically seen the usual masked VCP ID of b*y when I find the before purchases, but it wasn't the case this time. The submission numbers in the cards that I am about to post begin with 27755431 and end with 27751452 and total 21 cards. There are three different initial VCP purchase IDs involved that include an unknown Ebay ID with the masked Ebay ID of 99 and VCP masked ID of ec, and an unknown Ebay ID with a masked Ebay ID of p*e and a matched VCP masked ID of p*e and a VCP masked ID of t9* . While I cannot confirm a link between the three, they do seem to be from the same submission and all of the after sales were through PWCC with many being sold on the same date. The majority of the posted card images have poor first sale scans or only a front scan that I could not 100% confirm a match. I posted the first scans that I am confident are a match. In a sequentially numbered stretch of 21 PSA certs, there are 13 vintage PSA 10s - most trimmed and the others with no prior sale found. In that 21 card range there were 10 consecutive 10s given by PSA's experts. I believe the odds of that occurring with 50+ year old trimmed cards is astronomical without insider assistance from within PSA. Any help in identifying these three masked VCP ID's would be greatly appreciated. The cards are as follows: #27755431 - PSA 10 - 1960 Parkhurst Jack McIntyre #24 Could not find a prior sale. Sold by PWCC on 11/27/17 for $2,024.00. #27755432 - PSA 9 - 1960 Parkhurst Barry Cullen #32 Could not find a prior sale. Sold by PWCC on 10/26/17 for $88.66. #27755433 - PSA 9 - 1960 Parkhurst Henri Richard #47 Purchased by ec* on 6/12/17 as a PSA 8 for $250.00. Sold by PWCC on 10/26/17 for $379.00. Only a front scan provided. Trimmed on right edge. PSA Set Registry: George's Gems #27755434 - PSA 9 - 1961 Topps Murray Balfour #33 No sale record in VCP. #27755435 - PSA 8 - 1961 Topps Doug Harvey #45 Could not find a prior sale. Sold by PWCC on 10/26/17 for $59.00. #27755436 - PSA 9 - 1962 Parkhurst Jean Beliveau #39 Purchased by ec* on 12/01/16 as a PSA 8 for $110.95. No sale record on VCP. #27755437 - PSA 10 - 1963 Parkhurst Dick Duff #4 Purchased by ec* on 03/27/17 as a PSA 8 for $36.00. Sold by PWCC on 11/27/17 for $561.00. Poor first scan. Borders and mis-registered colors match (not 100% though). Trimmed right edge. PSA Set Registry: George's Gems #27755438 - PSA 10 - 1963 Parkhurst Ed Litzenberger #6 Purchased by ec* on 03/27/17 as a PSA 8 for $30.00. Sold by PWCC on 11/27/17 for $235.50. Poor first scan. Borders, smudges, and mis-registered colors match (not 100% though). Trimmed left and bottom edges. PSA Set Registry: private #27755439 - PSA 10 - 1963 Parkhurst Bob Nevin #10 Purchased by ec* on 03/27/17 as a PSA 8 for $36.00. Sold by PWCC on 11/27/17 for $787.00. Poor first scan. Borders, smudge, and mis-registered colors match (not 100% though). Trimmed right edge. PSA Set Registry: George's Gems #27755440 - PSA 10 - 1963 Parkhurst Bob Pulford #12 Purchased by ec* on 05/23/17 as a PSA 8 for $30.00. Sold by PWCC on 11/27/17 for $257.00. Poor first scan. Borders, smudge, and mis-registered colors match (not 100% though). Trimmed right edge. PSA Set Registry: Martin the Erudicious Hockey Antiquarian #27755441 - PSA 10 - 1963 Parkhurst Pete Goegan #43 Purchased by ec* on 05/23/17 as a PSA 8 for $30.00. Sold by PWCC on 11/27/17 for $699.00. Poor first scan. Borders, smudge, print spots match (not 100% though). Trimmed left and right edges. PSA Set Registry: George's Gems #27755442 - PSA 10 - 1963 Parkhurst Billy McNeill #56 Purchased by ec* on 05/28/17 as a PSA 8 for $24.99. Sold by PWCC on 11/27/17 for $678.00. Poor first scan. Borders, smudge, print spots match (not 100% though). No conclusive evidence of trimming. PSA Set Registry: private #27755443 - PSA 10 - 1963 Parkhurst Kent Douglas #67 Could not locate a prior sale. Sold by PWCC on 11/27/17 for $777.00. PSA Set Registry: rjmjr #27755444 - PSA 10 - 1963 Parkhurst Bob Pulford #72 Purchased by ec* on 03/27/17 as a PSA 8 for $25.00. Sold by PWCC on 11/27/17 for $326.00. Poor first scan. Borders, smudge, print spots match (not 100% though). Trimmed left and right edges. PSA Set Registry: I've clearly gone INSANE! #27755445 - PSA 10 - 1963 Parkhurst Ron Stewart #74 Purchased by ec* on 03/20/17 as a PSA 8 for $38.00. Sold by PWCC on 11/27/17 for $1,236.00. Poor first scan. Borders, smudge, print spots match (not 100% though). Trimmed bottom edge. PSA Set Registry: George's Gems #27755446 - PSA 10 - 1963 Parkhurst Ralph Backstrom #83 Purchased by pe* on 03/20/17 as a PSA 8 for $38.00. Sold by PWCC on 11/27/17 for $372.00. Borders, smudge, print spots match. Trimmed left edge. PSA Set Registry: George's Gems #27755447 - PSA 9 - 1963 Parkhurst Jean Beliveau #89 No sale found. PSA Set Registry: none #27755448 - PSA 9 - 1963 Parkhurst Terry Harper #91 Purchased by pe* on 03/20/17 as a PSA 8 for $43.99. Sold by PWCC on 10/26/17 for $72.00. Good front and back scans to verify a match - only posted the front scan since there is enough to confirm a match. Borders, smudge, print spots match. Trimmed left and top edges. PSA Set Registry: none #27755449 - PSA 10 - 1963 Parkhurst Gump Worsley #98 No prior graded sale found. Sold by PWCC on 11/27/17 for $932.79. PSA Set Registry: none #27755450 - PSA 9 - 1965 Topps Gerry Cheevers #31 Purchased by t9* on 06/20/17 as a PSA 8 for $431.00. Sold by PWCC on 11/30/17 for $1,525.51. Borders, smudge, print spots match. Trimmed left edge. PSA Set Registry: none #27755451 - PSA 10 - 1965 Topps Yvan Cournoyer #76 No prior graded sale found. No record of sale as a PSA 10 (see next line) PSA Set Registry: PRIVATE #27755452 - PSA 8 - 1971 O-Pee-Chee Ken Dryden #45 Purchased by ec* on 06/05/17 for $699.99 as a PSA 8. Regraded a PSA 8 and sold by PWCC on 10/26/17 for $592.00. Took a loss and there was no evidence of trimming. PSA Set Registry: none __________________ He has no rival, He has no equal. Last edited by corndog; 10-24-2019 at 02:49 AM.