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Old 08-31-2020, 11:40 PM   #378
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Originally Posted by rman112 View Post
WAR is flawed, though. That's the point.
I 1000% agree pitcher WAR is flawed, I am not a Cy voter though.


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You're really telling me that miniscule pitching WAR differences matter this year?
They'll matter in the same way differences will matter in any other stat.


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Those numbers, like ERA, combined with others, are supposed to give us a WAR number that means something. It doesn't.
ERA is not a part of the WAR calc.

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Not only did it happen with Lynn last year, but it's happening again this year.
You should read up on how they calculate pitcher WAR, it makes sense(even if not perfect) and it's not complicated. For me I personally don't care about it as I'm only interested in what a pitcher's true talent is currently and how they are going to perform in the future and WAR is useless to me for that

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If you're telling me that Cole can have a run and a half ERA higher than Lynn, in 10 less innings, where Cole is giving up an insane amount of runs on his own doing with homers, and that Cole has a higher WAR.. you're just telling me not to pay attention to WAR. And ESPECIALLY with such a small sample size with minute differences.
ERA is not a part of WAR and for good reason. The base of pitcher WAR is FIP. But Cole doesn't have a higher WAR I haven't a clue why you think that. Going into tonight Cole was at 0.6 and Lynn was at 1.3. The only reason I mentioned Cole's name is because he's one of the most dominant pitchers in the league playing on one of the league's best teams and we are only half way through the season. Just as Trout is still an outside threat at MVP. Cole had 2.1 WAR last year in September alone. After tonight though, Cole is for sure out of it

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