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Originally Posted by Above the Rim
I love Giannis, think he is currently flat out the best player. But his knees have cumulated injuries over the past years and I really hope its all behind him. However, knees are super critical and they need to be injury free for a player to truly excel to their potential.
If Giannis' knees are good to go for the whole season, he is a great pick for another MVP. But Jokic may have something to say about that. Both are extraordinary players and deserve to be 1 and 1A for the MVP.
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Turns out I am looking to acquire some aesthetically nice dollar-bin Freak cards to complement my recent acquisition of some similarly situated Joker cards.
'19 Chronicles for example.
I agree that they are the 2 best in the game talent-wise, but injuries are a concern for the Freak and he did have a bit of a down year.
(As for who is the best player, Joker's detractors - still not learning their lesson, I think - point to his non-stellar defense. Fair enough, if you're going to also point to where the Freak isn't stellar, like in 3-point and FT shooting. ("Eye tests" limited to highlight-reel material are grossly inadequate - obviously.) Hard to knock his game otherwise.)
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Originally Posted by GOATcards
Leaders in total VORP (regular-season) over the last 5 seasons, min. 20 VORP:
Jokic - 40.0
Giannis - 32.3
Harden - 28.1
Doncic - 26.4
LeBron - 23.9
Embiid - 23.0
Lillard - 22.7
Butler - 20.9
Curry - 20.1
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(BTW I do suspect that BPM/VORP undervalue defense, hence the under-rating of players like Kobe and Hakeem in that metric relative to MVP Shares, which EPM appears to correct for. And still Joker has been the highest-EPM player the last 2 seasons (I don't know about before that).)