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Originally Posted by daveyc1

lots of players have won MVP awards. I am talking about all time seasons. Brett 80, Koufax 66, Pedro 99 &00, Mantle 56 & 61, Williams 41, even Judge 22. What does Trout have? He has no memorable seasons. Even at his peak. check out the stats. He has lots of BB and lots of WAR.



he has led the league in BB and runs a few times, but the overwhelming majority of his league-leading stats are rate stats. rate stats are simply easier to rank high in the fewer AB you get. with all the BB and missed games it is easier to have high SLG % OPB+ etc. notice after 16, when the AB numbers start to tank, his rate stats spike? that is because pre 2017, he was getting 550-625 AB's. much harder to keep rate stats super high then. this is why getting to .400 is so hard. Brett and Gwynn both had short seasons the years they came close.



The high WAR numbers can be attributed to his propensity to BB and the CF positional adjustment. at his very very best, Trout was an average CFer. for the last half dozen years, below average. He should not have been playing there, or getting that positional adjustment.



When Ohtani leaves, he will be playing MUCH more DH and those WAR numbers will tank. He is also selling out for power and you can see it in the BA, OBP and K rates. the bat has slowed and he has to start the swing earlier.



I think 50 years into the future, he will be seen as a player who had a very good 8 years or so in the 2010's

So yeah, playing the premium position of center field adequately shouldn't count for anything. Playing a decent 1B should count the same. Doh.

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