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Originally Posted by rats60
This is just another reason why war is trash. Black ink Koufax 78 DeGrom 12 Average HOFer 40. DeGrom is well below the cut line for HOF. He needs a lot more than one good year He needs get his innings around 2k with dominant stats. DeGrom has only had 4 seasons with 162 innings needed to qualify to lead the league. The last 4 (counting the COVID season) have been under 100. At age 36, the likelihood that happens is very low. He is just another pitcher with a couple good years who couldn't sustain a HOF career.
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Black ink test must better then WAR. Lets count how many times the guy lead the league in Wins and Wining % but ignore the fact that the year he posted a 1.7 era he went 10-9. Then lets also give points for complete games and compare eras where no pitchers complete games vs all of them. And finally lets give same amount of points for leading the league (8 team) vs leading the league (15 teams) in said stats
I think you just underestimate (like most do) how good Degrom has been. He didn't have a couple of good years. His first 1300 innings are the best first 1300 innings in baseball history (this isn't up for debate).
His 4 year stretch was basically unanimous cy young, unanimous cy young, 3rd place cy young in Covid, best 1/2 season performance in history of the sports then he got hurt. I would't write that off as a couple of good years. His couple of good years were his previous 4 seasons where he had 3 top 10 cy young seasons and won ROY (like 4 years removed from being a low level college short stop)
Lastly, the reason I say he only needs 1 healthy season is because if he gets another healthy 32 start season he's most likely gonna win another Cy Young. Then its just a question of whatever counting stats he racks up. But if he finishes with 3 Cy youngs, and all time leader in ERA+, WHIP, and K/9 then yes he will walk into the HOF