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Originally Posted by tjforce
Don't forget about Magic, and Bird, and Kahwi, and Duncan, and Wade. I guess they were all 'special cases'?
This is less directed at Ant, since he's only 23, but building a resume before 26 isn't just about championships, its about MVPs too. Luka has none. Ant has finished 7th and 8th in voting. Meanwhile, guys like LeBron, Curry, Giannis, Jokic, Durant, and SGA all at least had an MVP by 26, if not a title to go with it.
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I should clarify, the superstars which don't get drafted into already ready to go team (or mostly ready to go). Wade would be the only on your list I would say went against that although Heat did bring in Shaq.
I was referring to players who were on franchises which really had to build the foundation and culture while that superstar was drafted.
Jordan, Lebron, Shaq, Giannis, Steph, Jokic, Tatum, Isiah. Hakeem, Pierce and Dirk were a bit older. Outside of maybe Shaq's lakers (Tatum?), all those franchises were pretty terrible before the superstar arrived.