Michael Jackson

Hess687 · 11-30-2016, 08:01 PM

To keep up with the theme that seems to be the hot topic of the week....music...I figured I'd post a poll to see what everyone thought of Michael Jackson.

The more I talk to people the more it seems to be a generational thing, although I could be wrong. The younger crowd sees him as a child molester, the middle aged crowd sees him as a little bit of both and the older crowd sees him as a great artist.

So the question is: Where do you fall?

LCM1223 · 11-30-2016, 08:13 PM

A damn fine artist who had his own personal demons

Braswell10 · 11-30-2016, 08:21 PM

Where is the $2000 dollar card out of a $10 pack option?

GoTribe!!! · 11-30-2016, 08:45 PM

Both, great artist who turned out to be a molester.

Hess687 · 11-30-2016, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by GoTribe!!!

Both, great artist who turned out to be a molester.

I agree with this although I lean toward a great artist if I had to pick one.

JosieD · 11-30-2016, 09:12 PM

I don't know what to believe. I watched a show on it some years ago. It was reported that the 1st victim to come forward reported Jackson was circumcised but his autopsy report said otherwise.

ILOVEBEER · 11-30-2016, 09:41 PM

Does anyone else think he DIDN'T father his "kids". Has it ever been proven? Heard it hasn't.

tacoma34 · 11-30-2016, 10:56 PM

Did he molest Kevin McCallister?

88horsepower · 11-30-2016, 11:05 PM

Until it's proven that he was a molestor, to me he was a tremendously talented and troubled man.

Panthersfans · 11-30-2016, 11:13 PM

Both in my opinion. Fantastic artist though.

SunDevilCards · 12-01-2016, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ILOVEBEER

Does anyone else think he DIDN'T father his "kids". Has it ever been proven? Heard it hasn't.

I don't think he did.

Ty Hope · 12-01-2016, 02:09 AM

One of the greatest talents to have lived. One of the last superstars. No one has come near his level of fame in the 80s.

duwal · 12-01-2016, 02:46 AM

There's actual proof that he was a great artist so I chose that

groundsupport · 12-01-2016, 07:10 AM

All you need to know.

preakness · 12-01-2016, 08:37 AM

He was a talented freak

Siberian13 · 12-01-2016, 10:01 AM

How many of you parents would let your kids hang with him at the Neverland ranch? Can we get a poll for this question?

Clarka3 · 12-01-2016, 12:45 PM

i'll be totally honest, i voted 2nd option. I never really got into his music as a kid (or an adult). I can recognize the greatness now, but it's still tarnished by the "first" impression I got of him.

SethMurphy · 12-02-2016, 09:49 AM

one of the greatest pop artists of a generation, possibly all time. he was revolutionary in his music, performance, paved the way for a lot of artists i believe

personal demons are personal demons, he was clearly troubled by a lot, much i blame on his childhood/upbringing

jmscoggin · 12-02-2016, 11:11 AM

There was no bigger MJ fan than I in the late 80's. I even had the red jacket and a glove. Yes, I was a dork as a pre-teen, still am but I digress.

Without a doubt Michael was one of the most influential and amazing performers of all time. He also was most likely a child molester as much as I hate to say that. I'm conflicted when one of his songs come on the radio, I don't know if I should sing along or change the station.

jdandns · 12-02-2016, 09:37 PM

"Thriller"?
Sing along.

"P.Y.T."?
Change the station.

Nyfancam01 · 12-02-2016, 09:38 PM

the greatest of all time.

not even close.

Skipscards · 12-02-2016, 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nyfancam01

the greatest of all time.

not even close.

This.

JohnRyno · 12-02-2016, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmscoggin

There was no bigger MJ fan than I in the late 80's. I even had the red jacket and a glove. Yes, I was a dork as a pre-teen, still am but I digress.

Without a doubt Michael was one of the most influential and amazing performers of all time. He also was most likely a child molester as much as I hate to say that. I'm conflicted when one of his songs come on the radio, I don't know if I should sing along or change the station.

"Do you think Michael Jackson is guilty of the charges against him?"

Nah, man. He made Thrilla'...Thrilla'

Burks · 12-03-2016, 01:40 AM

Can't be a great artist without being a little screwed up.

jdandns · 12-03-2016, 01:57 AM

Elvis.
Michael.
Whitney.
Prince.

Average age at death is for the whole group is just under 50 years old.
Too many needless medications readily available to them and no one to tell them no.

All were great. Prince had the weakest voice in the quartet probably, but was the most complete, talent-wise, since he wrote and produced all of his own songs and played most of the instruments.
An amazing group, all gone far too soon. It's no accident they were each known by one name long before they died.

View Poll Results: What is Michael Jackson to You?
A Great Artist	30	30.93%
Child Molester	17	17.53%
Ehhhh......a little bit of both	50	51.55%
Voters: 97. You may not vote on this poll

11-30-2016, 08:01 PM	#1
Hess687 Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Indiana Posts: 4,699 hess687	Michael Jackson To keep up with the theme that seems to be the hot topic of the week....music...I figured I'd post a poll to see what everyone thought of Michael Jackson. The more I talk to people the more it seems to be a generational thing, although I could be wrong. The younger crowd sees him as a child molester, the middle aged crowd sees him as a little bit of both and the older crowd sees him as a great artist. So the question is: Where do you fall?

11-30-2016, 08:13 PM	#2
LCM1223 Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 26,481 lucards1295	A damn fine artist who had his own personal demons __________________ Total Topps BUNT Profits: $1295.74 KICK: $3243.82 HUDDLE: $300.22 STAR WARS CARD TRADER: $2885.09 STAR WARS FORCE COLLECTION: $1318.14 TWD: $94.09 SKATE: $697.03

11-30-2016, 08:45 PM	#4
GoTribe!!! Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Central Ohio Posts: 6,819 tribecollector74	Both, great artist who turned out to be a molester. __________________ I guess we're all damged in our own way Alone in our own way Distant headlights Desolate highway

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JosieD Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 33,428	I don't know what to believe. I watched a show on it some years ago. It was reported that the 1st victim to come forward reported Jackson was circumcised but his autopsy report said otherwise. __________________ #TEAMConnor #TeamLeoneez Day of Breakfast successful! Thank you! instagram: @oldschoolboxbreaks

11-30-2016, 08:21 PM	#3
Braswell10 Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Florida Posts: 9,471 o7star	Where is the $2000 dollar card out of a $10 pack option?

11-30-2016, 09:41 PM	#7
ILOVEBEER Banned Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Denver Posts: 4,981	Does anyone else think he DIDN'T father his "kids". Has it ever been proven? Heard it hasn't.

11-30-2016, 10:56 PM	#8
tacoma34 Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Washington State Posts: 5,630	Did he molest Kevin McCallister? __________________ ISO: Earl Thomas 2014 Topps Chrome Black Printing Plate (last card needed for complete rainbow)

11-30-2016, 11:05 PM	#9
88horsepower Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Somewhere In Time Posts: 23,557	Until it's proven that he was a molestor, to me he was a tremendously talented and troubled man. __________________ https://www.psacard.com/psasetregistry/showcase/rookies/88horsepower-childhood-baseball-rookies-collection/imagegallery/15549

11-30-2016, 11:13 PM	#10
Panthersfans Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: NC, USA. Posts: 1,046 Kkirks496p	Both in my opinion. Fantastic artist though.

12-01-2016, 02:09 AM	#12
Ty Hope Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,864	One of the greatest talents to have lived. One of the last superstars. No one has come near his level of fame in the 80s.

12-01-2016, 02:46 AM	#13
duwal Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 12,994 duwal duwal	There's actual proof that he was a great artist so I chose that

12-01-2016, 07:10 AM	#14
groundsupport Banned Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Michigan Posts: 16,234 groundsupportse	All you need to know.

12-01-2016, 08:37 AM	#15
preakness Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: In Johnny Ryno's soul Posts: 21,077	He was a talented freak

12-01-2016, 10:01 AM	#16
Siberian13 Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 76,008 shiller13	How many of you parents would let your kids hang with him at the Neverland ranch? Can we get a poll for this question? __________________ O say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave

12-01-2016, 12:45 PM	#17
Clarka3 Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 17,877 Clarka3 Clarka3	i'll be totally honest, i voted 2nd option. I never really got into his music as a kid (or an adult). I can recognize the greatness now, but it's still tarnished by the "first" impression I got of him. __________________ Luke Kuechly Collector pending: w8lifter28 (custom), Don't ask me how much I want to offer. Come with a price in mind. If I don't want it or think it's worth that, I will let you know.

12-02-2016, 09:49 AM	#18
SethMurphy Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Centerville/Erie, PA Posts: 19,427 smurf_8 sethmurphy	one of the greatest pop artists of a generation, possibly all time. he was revolutionary in his music, performance, paved the way for a lot of artists i believe personal demons are personal demons, he was clearly troubled by a lot, much i blame on his childhood/upbringing __________________ Twitter - @seth_murphy8 PCs - Ryan Callahan, Reggie Lewis, Funko Pops (a little), a few other things that catch my eye

12-02-2016, 11:11 AM	#19
jmscoggin Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: TX Posts: 21,444 jmscoggin jmscoggin	There was no bigger MJ fan than I in the late 80's. I even had the red jacket and a glove. Yes, I was a dork as a pre-teen, still am but I digress. Without a doubt Michael was one of the most influential and amazing performers of all time. He also was most likely a child molester as much as I hate to say that. I'm conflicted when one of his songs come on the radio, I don't know if I should sing along or change the station. __________________ https://www.hofautographcollector.com/

12-02-2016, 09:37 PM	#20
jdandns Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,462	"Thriller"? Sing along. "P.Y.T."? Change the station. __________________ Originator and sole master of the novel "Steel Wall" attack formation in "Rock, Paper, Scissors". Undefeated, and I mean to stay that way. Don't even try it, son.

12-02-2016, 09:38 PM	#21
Nyfancam01 Banned Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: North Carolina Posts: 25,890 Nyfancam01 Nyfancam01	the greatest of all time. not even close.

12-03-2016, 01:40 AM	#24
Burks Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,038 toledoburks	Can't be a great artist without being a little screwed up. __________________ Buying any game used, autographed, etc items related to Eric Plunk $100 reward for the 2012 Leaf Memories Red 1/1 Eric Plunk!

12-03-2016, 01:57 AM	#25
jdandns Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,462	Elvis. Michael. Whitney. Prince. Average age at death is for the whole group is just under 50 years old. Too many needless medications readily available to them and no one to tell them no. All were great. Prince had the weakest voice in the quartet probably, but was the most complete, talent-wise, since he wrote and produced all of his own songs and played most of the instruments. An amazing group, all gone far too soon. It's no accident they were each known by one name long before they died. __________________ Originator and sole master of the novel "Steel Wall" attack formation in "Rock, Paper, Scissors". Undefeated, and I mean to stay that way. Don't even try it, son.