Zeagley AMA

[Zeagley]

Hi Blowout/Everyone,

We’ve seen some of the posts — and to be honest, a few of the comments have been pretty interesting, and kind of entertaining too. That said, we wanted to take a moment to connect with you all directly.

We’re Zeagley (or ZGS). We know we might seem a bit mysterious right now, but that won’t be the case for long — and to be clear, that was never the plan. We were preparing for a fully transparent launch at Fanatics Fest, but due to some unexpected circumstances, things didn’t go as planned. We’ve pivoted and moved forward.

Our goal is simple: to bring back a fair, affordable, and reliable grading service.

We’re not here claiming to be perfect — far from it. We know there’s room to improve, and we’re actively working on that. But our mission remains the same: to build something better for collectors, powered by technology — with real consistency, faster turnaround times, and no human bias.

This AMA is our way of opening the door.

Ask us anything. Whether you’re curious, skeptical, or just want to share feedback — positive or negative — we’re here for it. And if you want to poke some fun, that’s okay too.

Every question matters, and we’ll make time to respond to real concerns. We truly value the collecting community and hope to earn your support and trust.

Once grading resumes, we recommend sending just one card. Try us before forming a full opinion on our team, process, or service. We’ve priced our model to make that possible — it costs less than a fast food meal. And if needed, we’re happy to offer a special Blowout Forum discount code so you can give us a shot.

We want you to experience the product firsthand — not just speculate. There may be some questions we can’t answer in full, but we’ll do our best to be clear and open with what we can.

Quick note:
We won’t be responding right away. Realistically, it’ll be at least 24 hours before we begin replying — likely a bit longer since this weekend is packed. But we’re not ghosting this thread or dodging anything. Please be patient with us — we’ll be back with answers. Again let’s try to keep the questions at least somewhat serious, and we’ll have some fun.

Looking forward to the conversation.

– Team Zeagley

[Cracktoast]

biggest thing people will want is a link to an actual website as well as photos of the slabs/labels along with price with insurance and return shipping. It's going to be extremely difficult to get a hard stake in the grading world and in the end for 99% of people the ROI is key regardless of the fancy grading process.

That said welcome and Good Luck

[ScattMan]

For a company that preaches transparency, you sure aren’t showing much of it. Why did you start accepting submissions when you haven’t even produced a label or graded a single card yet? Why is every card showcased on your site appears to be a PSA slab with a poorly Photoshopped overlay? Where exactly are you setting up at Fanatics Fest? I don’t see you listed on the floor plan. And how are you authenticating autographs?

[discodanman45]

Post a physical address to send cards, being mysterious and selling grading seems like a scam. Authenticating autographs is an art. Who in your company has this expertise, and don't say AI can do that. This hobby has ripped off so many people that until you give names on who is running your company, no one should use your service. You also need experts to authenticate cards. How will you know if someone sends you a fake card?

[CorndogWasp]

I look at your entire website (it’s only a few clicks) and I still don’t know if you are real or not. My ebay profile feels more human/real than your website. Your website looks like a dead website. Are you one person or a company with employees?

Who told you that Zeagly is a good branding name? Get a second opinion. Reminds me of a kids app on the iPad. Names matter. Names matter. Names matter.

I would not use your service for my Mahomes rookies in its current state.

[discodanman45]

AI is not needed for cards. Just need more transparency with qualified graders. Notes are fine. Card got a 9 with 60/40 L/R centering. Card got a 7 with a small indent located on lower right in location marked. Baseball cards are not diamonds.

This company is a sketchy HGA that makes BCCG slabs/labels look beautiful.

[BoSoxFan1999]

Originally Posted by CorndogWasp

I look at your entire website (it’s only a few clicks) and I still don’t know if you are real or not. My ebay profile feels more human/real than your website. Your website looks like a dead website. Are you one person or a company with employees?

Who told you that Zeagly is a good branding name? Get a second opinion. Reminds me of a kids app on the iPad. Names matter. Names matter. Names matter.

I would not use your service for my Mahomes rookies in its current state.

Seriously, Zeagley? Worst name ever. LOL

[bojesphob]

One question I would have is: how do you train your AI models? Data is one of the most important parts of machine learning and classification, and while corners and edges might be easy to figure out, surface is something that you would need a LOT of data for to make sure that the AI system isn't picking up designs in the card when looking at the surface versus actual reflected issues (as both will be seen by the AI system). I believe TAG has a proprietary system that is able to account for this, but I would imagine the amount of coding required for that is rather robust. Also, knowing that a surface is supposed to be gloss versus matte is going to be a potential sticking point as well, depending on the card and design (2012 Prizm is a good example of this, as the front is the Prizm high gloss, while many of the card backs are more of a matte and a lot less reflective).

There are millions of cards that have been graded before, but the actual high quality scans of cards that are needed to do comparisons against really isn't that high. AI requires a LOT of data to produce accuracy in then 95%+ range, and if there isn't a huge amount of data to compare against, we'll get grades that are as accurate as Musk's AI, which means we really wouldn't be getting an improvement over trained people and maybe even a downgrade. Unless, of course, this is one of those things where there are a small handful of examples to compare against (like "this is a 10, 9, 8, 7, etc), and while that would work for cards similar to the examples, any that fall outside of those examples will get low grades, even if they are immaculate, because it's looking at things that aren't exactly like the card in the example. While it may seem that cards that fall into comparing easily to the examples would be consistent, the outliers would be the ones that would suffer from it, and not all cards fall into easy examples to grade. AI models are only as good as the training models (ie, garbage in, garbage out) and having some sort of idea of how they are trained, without getting into too much detail to protect your tech, I think would help people understand how what you're doing is different and not just throwing.... stuff.... against the wall and seeing what sticks.

[YeahBuddy]

Sounds like people should wait till after Fanatics Fest to see if they do their intro/reveal there. Companies do launches, that's normal, and you'd want a site to point back to etc.

btw, very well written OP.


edit: I see where they wont reveal there as no label now. makes sense.


I use PSA and CGC, but just saying.

[discodanman45]

Originally Posted by YeahBuddy

Sounds like people should wait till after Fanatics Fest to see if they do their intro/reveal there. Companies do launches, that's normal, and you'd want a site to point back to etc.

btw, very well written OP.


edit: I see where they wont reveal there as no label now. makes sense.


I use PSA and CGC, but just saying.

These was at a minimum revised by AI, specifically ChatGPT. ChatGPT loves to put hyphens in its writing.

[bojesphob]

Originally Posted by discodanman45

These was at a minimum revised by AI, specifically ChatGPT. ChatGPT loves to put hyphens in its writing.

Not just regular hyphens, but the elongated hyphens (- versus —). Just had a long conversation with a coworker about this LOL

[Snowcat]

I love when people get a bit riled up when PR responses have AI induced markers.

We as a society, should probably be more concerned that AI is being used to make health, medical, insurance, and employment decisions. Just to name a few

[CorndogWasp]

Is any of this real?

[rfgilles]

Originally Posted by discodanman45

These was at a minimum revised by AI, specifically ChatGPT. ChatGPT loves to put hyphens in its writing.

So? Most people should be running their emails through AI at this point. You would be a fool not to.

[Snowcat]

Their marketing team are either geniuses or clueless. Either way, they've created a "buzz".

[Snowcat]

Everyone in this thread probably used Clippy at some point

[rfgilles]

Originally Posted by Snowcat

Their marketing team are either geniuses or clueless. Either way, they've created a "buzz".

Is there buzz beyond these forums?

[Scottish Punk]

Originally Posted by rfgilles

So? Most people should be running their emails through AI at this point. You would be a fool not to.

For the love of god, no. It is ok to use to check a fact or two or whatever. I don't want everybody to get in the habit of turning their brains off and letting AI do everything. We, as a society, can live with writing emails on our own. AI could easily become a crutch on a whole generation. Just my opinion and worry.

Sorry, for the tangent. Back to the Ziggy Zuggy company.

[Snowcat]

Originally Posted by rfgilles

Is there buzz beyond these forums?

Probably fair to say no one really knew the name Zeagley a week ago. People are now commenting on message boards and making social media posts/content. So, I would say, yes?

[discodanman45]

Originally Posted by rfgilles

So? Most people should be running their emails through AI at this point. You would be a fool not to.

Yes, but giving credit for this person to have a well-written post is silly. I run everything through ChatGPT, but tell it to remove hyphens. I then make corrections myself after I run it through.

[rfgilles]

Originally Posted by Scottish Punk

For the love of god, no. It is ok to use to check a fact or two or whatever. I don't want everybody to get in the habit of turning their brains off and letting AI do everything. We, as a society, can live with writing emails on our own. AI could easily become a crutch on a whole generation. Just my opinion and worry.

Sorry, for the tangent. Back to the Ziggy Zuggy company.

Never said anything about turning your brain off. No reason not to run an email through AI.

AI is a tremendous resource, and can help with so many things, besides fact-checking. It can help you brainstorm all kinds of ideas. If you don't use it, you will be falling behind.

[thenightman]

Y'all getting trolled.

[Bosoxfan5990]

Originally Posted by thenightman

Y'all getting trolled.

That's where I'm at too.

[PLB9eight]

Originally Posted by CorndogWasp

Is any of this real?

Starting to feel like we’re in an unreleased season of Lost. DHARMA Initiative grading.





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[inaka]

Originally Posted by Zeagley

Hi Blowout/Everyone,

We’ve seen some of the posts — and to be honest, a few of the comments have been pretty interesting, and kind of entertaining too. That said, we wanted to take a moment to connect with you all directly.

We’re Zeagley (or ZGS). We know we might seem a bit mysterious right now, but that won’t be the case for long — and to be clear, that was never the plan. We were preparing for a fully transparent launch at Fanatics Fest, but due to some unexpected circumstances, things didn’t go as planned. We’ve pivoted and moved forward.

Our goal is simple: to bring back a fair, affordable, and reliable grading service.

We’re not here claiming to be perfect — far from it. We know there’s room to improve, and we’re actively working on that. But our mission remains the same: to build something better for collectors, powered by technology — with real consistency, faster turnaround times, and no human bias.

This AMA is our way of opening the door.

Ask us anything. Whether you’re curious, skeptical, or just want to share feedback — positive or negative — we’re here for it. And if you want to poke some fun, that’s okay too.

Every question matters, and we’ll make time to respond to real concerns. We truly value the collecting community and hope to earn your support and trust.

Once grading resumes, we recommend sending just one card. Try us before forming a full opinion on our team, process, or service. We’ve priced our model to make that possible — it costs less than a fast food meal. And if needed, we’re happy to offer a special Blowout Forum discount code so you can give us a shot.

We want you to experience the product firsthand — not just speculate. There may be some questions we can’t answer in full, but we’ll do our best to be clear and open with what we can.

Quick note:
We won’t be responding right away. Realistically, it’ll be at least 24 hours before we begin replying — likely a bit longer since this weekend is packed. But we’re not ghosting this thread or dodging anything. Please be patient with us — we’ll be back with answers. Again let’s try to keep the questions at least somewhat serious, and we’ll have some fun.

Looking forward to the conversation.

– Team Zeagley

Don't feed the troll.