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Old 07-12-2024, 04:10 PM   #1
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Default Brunson signs new deal with Knicks

Per Woj, 4/156. If he waited until next year, he could have gotten 4/270.

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Old 07-12-2024, 04:20 PM   #2
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Old 07-12-2024, 06:03 PM   #3
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Sometimes, winning CHIPS is more important than winning money.

Not to mention, his circumstances won't really change much because he still has A LOT of money.

Just ensures that he'll be surrounded by better talent.
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Great player and a bright future for Knicks fans!
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Old 07-12-2024, 07:39 PM   #5
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Sometimes players sign lower than expected deals as a commitment to the organization and whatever it takes to be winning. From the team perspective, Brunson gave a discount to the organization that allowed him to lead and resurrected a solid, but Nesmith-like workhorse career under Luka (substitute the Jays).

Come to think of it, Adubs came up with a similar long term arrangement when he was given a chance at the starting lineup by Indiana. Did LeBron ever take a haircut with LA as part of OB (operation bronny)?

Results of a change of scenery can be dramatic. I think we can say (whatever Panini instant thinks) that Aaron fairly defeated Brunson in the Pacers-Knicks mixup, enabling Indiana to move forward. It was largely defense, including the fake out that broke Bruh's ankles, but without Aaron's 8 for 8 game seven performance, centered in the fulcrum third quarter when NY was mounting a comeback, Indiana doesn't move forward.

Really, kudos to both. I have never seen New York more appreciative of a team that bowed out in the quarters before. The sheer unexpected effort of the NY squad was redeeming, the enthralling nature of the games themselves, and I hear the Knicks improved themselves a lot this off season. While Indiana picked up all expiring contracts except Smith, added Wiseman (small risk, moderate likely reward, but all of the Pacers' recent acquisitions have turned out nicely), and otherwise stood pat.
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Sometimes players sign lower than expected deals as a commitment to the organization and whatever it takes to be winning. From the team perspective, Brunson gave a discount to the organization that allowed him to lead and resurrected a solid, but Nesmith-like workhorse career under Luka (substitute the Jays).

Come to think of it, Adubs came up with a similar long term arrangement when he was given a chance at the starting lineup by Indiana. Did LeBron ever take a haircut with LA as part of OB (operation bronny)?

Results of a change of scenery can be dramatic. I think we can say that Aaron fairly defeated Brunson in the Pacers-Knicks matchup, allowing Indiana to move forward.
You are completely unhinged. This is a thread about Jalen Brunson's contract and you bring up Nesmith, again. Just stop.
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Let me condense the relevance, in case you have just shaded a generation of readers:

1) a low signing amount (and we can argue nothing low about a Haliburton-like salary in today's economy) allows the team to build out roster around. Nesmith's salary is why the Pacers could afford to bring back both Siakam and Obi, and have a full arsenal of reup talent. So yeah, that is a proven strategy that has worked, if smart about roster construction and sniffing out potentialities (such as, we all hope Wiseman. Which would allow Math to find his place leading the Brooklyn Nets).

2) I'm sure there are similar parallel scenarios of winning teams and the haircut strategy that others in the forums can get into. But this is the version I actually have something to say about.

3) It's fun thinking of a game that, in retrospect, must still be painful to New York.
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Old 07-12-2024, 09:12 PM   #8
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Dolan will make it up to him in the end. Even if something happens between now and his potential next max contract, he will probably get one of those lifetime contracts like Houston and a few of the other ex knicks got.
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If he brings a chip to NY he will be worth a billion.
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Sometimes players sign lower than expected deals as a commitment to the organization and whatever it takes to be winning. From the team perspective, Brunson gave a discount to the organization that allowed him to lead and resurrected a solid, but Nesmith-like workhorse career under Luka (substitute the Jays).

Come to think of it, Adubs came up with a similar long term arrangement when he was given a chance at the starting lineup by Indiana. Did LeBron ever take a haircut with LA as part of OB (operation bronny)?

Results of a change of scenery can be dramatic. I think we can say (whatever Panini instant thinks) that Aaron fairly defeated Brunson in the Pacers-Knicks mixup, enabling Indiana to move forward. It was largely defense, including the fake out that broke Bruh's ankles, but without Aaron's 8 for 8 game seven performance, centered in the fulcrum third quarter when NY was mounting a comeback, Indiana doesn't move forward.

Really, kudos to both. I have never seen New York more appreciative of a team that bowed out in the quarters before. The sheer unexpected effort of the NY squad was redeeming, the enthralling nature of the games themselves, and I hear the Knicks improved themselves a lot this off season. While Indiana picked up all expiring contracts except Smith, added Wiseman (small risk, moderate likely reward, but all of the Pacers' recent acquisitions have turned out nicely), and otherwise stood pat.
No way the Pacers win a game if Brunson, Bogdan, OG, Mitch, or Randle were healthy. Literal sweep.
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Sometimes, winning CHIPS is more important than winning money.

Not to mention, his circumstances won't really change much because he still has A LOT of money.

Just ensures that he'll be surrounded by better talent.
Yes, but the Knicks aren't winning a Championship.
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No way the Pacers win a game if Brunson, Bogdan, OG, Mitch, or Randle were healthy. Literal sweep.
The Knicks burned out a lot of players trying to create separation toward the end of season (which was meaningless, given that the only team you clearly didn't want to face was Boston). Chalk that up to coach.
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So my understanding is that he is banking on making up the 113 million with a bigger contract in three years. Hoping this window brings a run to the title. Commendable. I am still dubious on whether he will get the max contract in a few years. I don't think he is a max player and will fall off. But than again, it's the NBA, land of bad contracts and everybody is a max player.

With Randle back and Bridges added, Knicks have an interesting roster.
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Most/all players say they want to win. But who knows how high of a priority it is to them.

I've shared this before but Shaquille's agent from long ago once said all of his clients said winning was important to them, but when he asked them to rank everything (money, winning, location, playing time, etc...) only two of his clients actually put winning as the top priority.

Brunson just showed that it's one of (if not the) highest priority to him.
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Old 07-13-2024, 10:23 AM   #16
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Yes, but winning + location. If you have money in NY you are not living a bad life. No diss on Dallas.
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Knicks will make it up to him in 2027 when he can sign a 4 year deal worth more than $320M because he have his 10 years in

Or they will come out of this looking awful

Brunson is playing chess and betting on himself. I love it
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I dunno, Bruh underwhelmed me in the finals. He was too focused on individual shot creation and not enough on team distribution (arguably few options). And this the "most unselfish" player in the league.

It's true that Brunson's skilled and durable. The Knicks would actually have won the series if Andrew Nembhard, the Pacer's second best on-ball defender, had continued to guard him past game 2.
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Yay! A new Nesmith thread!
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I dunno, Bruh underwhelmed me in the finals. He was too focused on individual shot creation and not enough on team distribution (arguably few options). And this the "most unselfish" player in the league.

It's true that Brunson's skilled and durable. The Knicks would actually have won the series if Andrew Nembhard, the Pacer's second best on-ball defender, had continued to guard him past game 2.
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The fact that people read Nesmith into a post that just mentions playoff realities means that someone in the league is quietly exceeding hype.

You can go back and see I was an early proponent of Brunson on the forum when no one was discussing him.

Like or not like... as Haliburton readily agreed, it's not the worst thing to be "the heel" in NY. I don't think he deserves the role personally, but that's another thread.
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Yes, but winning + location. If you have money in NY you are not living a bad life. No diss on Dallas.
Sure. Can throw in the family aspect with his dad and godfather, too.

My point was Brunson left a lot of guaranteed money on the table in exchange for increasing his chances at winning in NYC.

Not a lot of athletes would give up that much money to improve their chances at winning, no matter where they're playing.
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It's not guaranteed though. Especially in this league. You are always an injury away, until that major deal is signed, from having your value drop precipitously.
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It's not guaranteed though. Especially in this league. You are always an injury away, until that major deal is signed, from having your value drop precipitously.
This makes no sense

What he left on the table was absolutely guaranteed
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then I am in awe of chess master Bruh.

Original post was "Per Woj, 4/156. If he waited until next year, he could have gotten 4/270." said nothing about guaranteed.
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