Can we talk about Pete Crow-Armstrong?

elontusk1119 · 04-23-2025, 10:40 PM

His hitting has been surprising. He is a legit above average hitter with uber elite defense and baserunning. He already had 1.5 fWAR, ranked 6th in MLB.

PCA really going to be this good? We talking about potentially MVP numbers

StankyFire · 04-23-2025, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by elontusk1119

His hitting has been surprising. He is a legit above average hitter with uber elite defense and baserunning. He already had 1.5 fWAR, ranked 6th in MLB.

PCA really going to be this good? We talking about potentially MVP numbers

was thinking this yesterday. Didn't realize his bat would be this good...

but yeah, if he keeps these numbers up with that glove, MVP / Top 5 player in baseball.

edit: his Savant page tells a different story about his bat.....interesting

hermanotarjeta · 04-23-2025, 11:00 PM

He already has 5 hr and 10 sb. He finished spring training well and has continued into the regular season. I like the kid.

49ersSF · 04-23-2025, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by StankyFire

but yeah, if he keeps these numbers up with that glove, MVP / Top 5 player in baseball.

Aaron Judge
Shohei Ohtani
Bobby Witt Jr.
Juan Soto
Pete Crow-Armstrong??

boxbuster7 · 04-23-2025, 11:23 PM

he'll regress like every other player you've pumped on this forum

patientgambler · 04-24-2025, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by 49ersSF

Aaron Judge
Shohei Ohtani
Bobby Witt Jr.
Juan Soto
Pete Rose-Armstrong??

Now you got it

blackvodka · 04-24-2025, 12:18 AM

He's started out strong. The NL Central is winnable this year too.

kyle1707 · 04-24-2025, 12:28 AM

Great story.

But I think Tucker will be your cubbie who is in the mvp race

dodgerfanjohn · 04-24-2025, 07:03 AM

He just needs to play against the Dodgers every day.

Funkster · 04-24-2025, 07:29 AM

He’s not THIS good but he’s pretty good. I’m a cubs fan so already have started PCing him a bit, especially since his prices aren’t astronomical.

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NYRE2PECT · 04-24-2025, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by dodgerfanjohn

He just needs to play against the Dodgers every day.

Or against my fantasy team...sheesh.

ironfireman · 04-24-2025, 07:49 AM

PCA was pretty rough with the bat last year with the Cubs in the first half. Coming in a lot as a late inning defensive replacement (facing tough lefty relievers) and then full time CF when Bellinger got hurt. Around late July he started to hit a little and have big games.
Since late July '24 he's 289/336/490 with 12 HRs 19 SB in 82 games. 3.9 fWAR
With his Defense and speed his floor seems to be around 5 WAR - if he is an avg bat its 6+ WAR - if he can stay around 120 wRC+ and stays healthy all year 8+ WAR and he'll be in the MVP conversation.

StankyFire · 04-24-2025, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by ironfireman

PCA was pretty rough with the bat last year with the Cubs in the first half. Coming in a lot as a late inning defensive replacement (facing tough lefty relievers) and then full time CF when Bellinger got hurt. Around late July he started to hit a little and have big games.
Since late July '24 he's 289/336/490 with 12 HRs 19 SB in 82 games. 3.9 fWAR
With his Defense and speed his floor seems to be around 5 WAR - if he is an avg bat its 6+ WAR - if he can stay around 120 wRC+ and stays healthy all year 8+ WAR and he'll be in the MVP conversation.

Great post thanks for sharing.

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Blamo · 04-24-2025, 09:14 AM

I'm not at all surprised Sheryl Crow and Lance Armstrong had an atheltic kid. Wonder if hes a good singer too.

Funkster · 04-24-2025, 09:32 AM

Missed out on a really nice looking 2024 light board. Love those cards, he wanted 180 though couldn’t pull the trigger as the last sales were 95 and 120.

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Bosoxfan5990 · 04-24-2025, 09:33 AM

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I'm not at all surprised Sheryl Crow and Lance Armstrong had an atheltic kid. Wonder if hes a good singer too.

txrngr34 · 04-24-2025, 09:44 AM

Dynamic defender makes tough plays look almost easy. Seems to read balls off the bat extremely well and tracks (like most decent OFs), so good jumps plus elite speed equals crazy range.

His bat, on the other hand, is anything but sure-fire. Yes, there's plenty of potential, but "potential just means you ain't done nothing yet." The 25-HR power potential is easily there.

However, he's shown flashes of plate discipline and pitch recognition. What boggles me a bit is that he always seems to regress. I don't know if it's a lack of focus/prep/game-planning, head getting too big, or what, but until he can put it together for a full season, I'm wary about how consistent he can be.

Remember when everyone thought Bellinger would be a perennial MVP contender? Sure, injuries began his derailment, but my point is that PCA hasn't even hit for a full season, so MVP talk seems crazy to me. Let's let the kid figure out big league pitchers before crowning him anything. Right now he's hot, but if his slumps go as long as his hot streaks then this is all moot.

hermanotarjeta · 04-24-2025, 09:52 AM

Can we SHOW about PCA? Got this before the Tokyo series.

Big35Hurt · 04-25-2025, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by boxbuster7

he'll regress like every other player you've pumped on this forum

Holy crap...you're not kidding. Thanks for pointing this out. I can now add the OP to the ignore list.

StankyFire · 04-25-2025, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

Can we SHOW about PCA? Got this before the Tokyo series.

You should go for the super on eBay

hermanotarjeta · 04-25-2025, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by StankyFire

You should go for the super on eBay

Good luck with your sale!

jduds · 04-25-2025, 11:39 AM

His underlying numbers (expected stats and quality of contact numbers) suggest he's an average to a slightly above average hitter right now. He's way outperforming his expected stats, and he'll decline a bit. With his stellar CF play, he'll be good for WAR and Gold Gloves for years if he avoids injuries that sap his athleticism. He looks to be in the same category as Andruw Jones, Torrii Hunter, and Jim Edmonds to me. Awesome players who get just a smidgen of hobby attention, but are on the lower end of stars.

mfw13 · 04-25-2025, 11:52 AM

He's off to a great start.

But as Keith Law would say....small sample size.....you can't really tell too much about a hitter until he's up to 250-300 PA.....if he's still hitting this well in August, then it'll be worth talking about.

His BB/K ratio isn't very good (6/26), and the fact that's only got the 4th highest OPS+ on the team tells you that the entire team has been benefitting from a few "wind blowing out" games at Wrigley.

Boredlawyer · 04-25-2025, 11:54 AM

Fun player to watch, due for a ton of regression based on his Savant metrics. Ride the wave while you can.

hermanotarjeta · 04-25-2025, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by jduds

His underlying numbers (expected stats and quality of contact numbers) suggest he's an average to a slightly above average hitter right now. He's way outperforming his expected stats, and he'll decline a bit. With his stellar CF play, he'll be good for WAR and Gold Gloves for years if he avoids injuries that sap his athleticism. He looks to be in the same category as Andruw Jones, Torrii Hunter, and Jim Edmonds to me. Awesome players who get just a smidgen of hobby attention, but are on the lower end of stars.

His name is too complicated, will never be a superstar.

04-23-2025, 10:40 PM	#1
elontusk1119 Member Join Date: Dec 2020 Posts: 471	Can we talk about Pete Crow-Armstrong? His hitting has been surprising. He is a legit above average hitter with uber elite defense and baserunning. He already had 1.5 fWAR, ranked 6th in MLB. PCA really going to be this good? We talking about potentially MVP numbers

04-23-2025, 11:23 PM	#5
boxbuster7 Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 12,216 boxbuster777	he'll regress like every other player you've pumped on this forum __________________ Psa 9 > psa 10

04-24-2025, 12:18 AM	#7
blackvodka Member Join Date: Dec 2024 Location: Appleton, WI Posts: 888	He's started out strong. The NL Central is winnable this year too. __________________ https://www.flickr.com/photos/202337276@N02/albums/

04-24-2025, 07:29 AM	#10
Funkster Member Join Date: Sep 2022 Location: Chicago Posts: 993	Can we talk about Pete Crow-Armstrong? He’s not THIS good but he’s pretty good. I’m a cubs fan so already have started PCing him a bit, especially since his prices aren’t astronomical. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

04-24-2025, 09:44 AM	#17
txrngr34 Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 4,194 txrngr34	Dynamic defender makes tough plays look almost easy. Seems to read balls off the bat extremely well and tracks (like most decent OFs), so good jumps plus elite speed equals crazy range. His bat, on the other hand, is anything but sure-fire. Yes, there's plenty of potential, but "potential just means you ain't done nothing yet." The 25-HR power potential is easily there. However, he's shown flashes of plate discipline and pitch recognition. What boggles me a bit is that he always seems to regress. I don't know if it's a lack of focus/prep/game-planning, head getting too big, or what, but until he can put it together for a full season, I'm wary about how consistent he can be. Remember when everyone thought Bellinger would be a perennial MVP contender? Sure, injuries began his derailment, but my point is that PCA hasn't even hit for a full season, so MVP talk seems crazy to me. Let's let the kid figure out big league pitchers before crowning him anything. Right now he's hot, but if his slumps go as long as his hot streaks then this is all moot. __________________ Any offers I make are only good for 24 hours unless otherwise stated.

04-23-2025, 11:00 PM	#3
hermanotarjeta Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 20,870	He already has 5 hr and 10 sb. He finished spring training well and has continued into the regular season. I like the kid.

04-24-2025, 12:28 AM	#8
kyle1707 Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 20,389	Great story. But I think Tucker will be your cubbie who is in the mvp race

04-24-2025, 07:03 AM	#9
dodgerfanjohn Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Torrance, CA Posts: 5,147 sternroolz	He just needs to play against the Dodgers every day.

04-24-2025, 07:49 AM	#12
ironfireman Member Join Date: Aug 2022 Location: Western NC, USA Posts: 484 vintagebosko Ironfireman	PCA was pretty rough with the bat last year with the Cubs in the first half. Coming in a lot as a late inning defensive replacement (facing tough lefty relievers) and then full time CF when Bellinger got hurt. Around late July he started to hit a little and have big games. Since late July '24 he's 289/336/490 with 12 HRs 19 SB in 82 games. 3.9 fWAR With his Defense and speed his floor seems to be around 5 WAR - if he is an avg bat its 6+ WAR - if he can stay around 120 wRC+ and stays healthy all year 8+ WAR and he'll be in the MVP conversation.

04-24-2025, 09:14 AM	#14
Blamo Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Milwaukee Posts: 284	I'm not at all surprised Sheryl Crow and Lance Armstrong had an atheltic kid. Wonder if hes a good singer too.

04-24-2025, 09:32 AM	#15
Funkster Member Join Date: Sep 2022 Location: Chicago Posts: 993	Missed out on a really nice looking 2024 light board. Love those cards, he wanted 180 though couldn’t pull the trigger as the last sales were 95 and 120. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

04-24-2025, 09:52 AM	#18
hermanotarjeta Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 20,870	Can we SHOW about PCA? Got this before the Tokyo series. Attached Thumbnails

04-25-2025, 11:39 AM	#22
jduds Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Posts: 3,787 chilaw57	His underlying numbers (expected stats and quality of contact numbers) suggest he's an average to a slightly above average hitter right now. He's way outperforming his expected stats, and he'll decline a bit. With his stellar CF play, he'll be good for WAR and Gold Gloves for years if he avoids injuries that sap his athleticism. He looks to be in the same category as Andruw Jones, Torrii Hunter, and Jim Edmonds to me. Awesome players who get just a smidgen of hobby attention, but are on the lower end of stars.

04-25-2025, 11:52 AM	#23
mfw13 Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 17,254	He's off to a great start. But as Keith Law would say....small sample size.....you can't really tell too much about a hitter until he's up to 250-300 PA.....if he's still hitting this well in August, then it'll be worth talking about. His BB/K ratio isn't very good (6/26), and the fact that's only got the 4th highest OPS+ on the team tells you that the entire team has been benefitting from a few "wind blowing out" games at Wrigley.

04-25-2025, 11:54 AM	#24
Boredlawyer Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Posts: 2,033	Fun player to watch, due for a ton of regression based on his Savant metrics. Ride the wave while you can.