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Old 03-23-2021, 10:16 AM   #1
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Arrow NBA trade deadline today at 3pm discussion

Correction the deadline is Thursday at 3pm et not today.

Celtics to get Aaron Gordon and Evan Fournier?

Where does Marvin Bagley aka Mr. Glass end up?

Will Lakers make some moves?
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Old 03-23-2021, 10:20 AM   #2
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Drummond to Lakers would be Nice.

Bol Bol to New Orleans would be nice.

Drummond to Knicks without losing starters would be nice.

Ayton to anyone would be nice.
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Old 03-23-2021, 10:28 AM   #3
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Aaron Gordon for Smart+Nesmith or Langford seems the most probable.
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Old 03-23-2021, 10:29 AM   #4
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I think lowry gets dealt today. I know recently the raptors have said they aren’t dealing Lowry but I think he gets dealt to either the Sixers or the Clippers (decent chance the heat are in play as well). The rumour is that the raps are working with Lowry on any potential trade. Lowry wanting to go home to philly makes sense, Lowry to reunite with kawhi and serge in LA makes sense too. If Lowry does get dealt I’ll be wishing him the best. GROAT

I don’t think norm get traded today. I personally think he signs and extension with the raps (or ops out of his player option and resigns). I think he’s part of the raptors long term plans (hopefully it’s not wishful thinking)

I don’t see Drummond getting traded today. His big contract makes a deal hard to make. He’ll be bought out ASAP and probably signs with the lakers or nets
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Old 03-23-2021, 10:32 AM   #5
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Aaron Gordon for Smart+Nesmith or Langford seems the most probable.
I'd be absolutely shocked if the Celtics traded Smart. He's like the heart of their team
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Old 03-23-2021, 10:35 AM   #6
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I'd be absolutely shocked if the Celtics traded Smart. He's like the heart of their team

Yeah any trade for Gordon involving Smart is a loss for the Cs.
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Old 03-23-2021, 10:37 AM   #7
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I just posted this in the regular season thread but will put it here too:

I doubt we see that proposed Magic-Celtics deal happen,Smart plus two firsts for Gordon & Fournier would be a pretty big overpay when Fournier is set to be a FA this offseason and Gordon next. I’m guessing Smart’s name was included once Fournier’s got added to the deal for salary matching purposes,one of Gordon or Fournier fits under the TPE but not both combined. It would take Smart’s 12m plus another 5m-ish in salary to match Fournier’s 17m.
I have nothing to base this on but I think we’ll either see Gordon for two 1sts + some other young player(s) + cap relief or no trade at all over Smart & picks for Fournier & Gordon.

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Old 03-23-2021, 10:40 AM   #8
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Yeah any trade for Gordon involving Smart is a loss for the Cs.
It’s a loss for the Magic.

In the playoffs, you need a big guy who can defend and can score, Aaron would be an absolute steal for the Celtics, along with Tatum, be nasty.
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Old 03-23-2021, 10:43 AM   #9
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Could the Mavs move Porzingis?

Would anyone take him?
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Old 03-23-2021, 10:45 AM   #10
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Could the Mavs move Porzingis?

Would anyone take him?
Mavs aren't moving Kristaps.
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I just posted this in the regular season thread but will put it here too:

I doubt we see that proposed Magic-Celtics deal happen,Smart plus two firsts for Gordon & Fournier would be a pretty big overpay when Fournier is set to be a FA this offseason and Gordon next. I’m guessing Smart’s name was included once Fournier’s got added to the deal for salary matching purposes,one of Gordon or Fournier fits under the TPE but not both combined. It would take Smart’s 12m plus another 5m-ish in salary to match Fournier’s 17m.
I have nothing to base this on but I think we’ll either see Gordon for two 1sts + some other young player(s) + cap relief or no trade at all over Smart & picks for Fournier & Gordon.
Gordon for Smart+Nesmith+1pick works just fine and I think that's probably the deal. Maybe replace Langford for Nesmith. I don't think the Magic will ship both Fournier and Gordon because I don't believe the Magic really see too many guys on the Celtics that they want. The Magic are a little backed into a corner by Gordon's request so that's why they are talking with Boston, not because they're terribly interested in any of their players.
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Old 03-23-2021, 10:47 AM   #12
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I don't think AG to the Celtics really makes sense he doesn't fit there. Tatum is much better at the 4. The Celtics are basically elite offensively with him at the 4 and that is AGs natural position.

I honestly don't know who the Celtics could possibly add that makes them closer to a contender? Maybe Lowry?
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Gordon for Smart+Nesmith+1pick works just fine and I think that's probably the deal. Maybe replace Langford for Nesmith. I don't think the Magic will ship both Fournier and Gordon because I don't believe the Magic really see too many guys on the Celtics that they want. The Magic are a little backed into a corner by Gordon's request so that's why they are talking with Boston, not because they're terribly interested in any of their players.
Yeah I don’t see that deal happening at all. Just looking at it from a Boston angle a Smart/Nesmith/first for Gordon move doesn’t makes this team better. Sure,you just upgraded at the four but at the expense of your best defender/playmaker not counting Nesmith plus pick. From everything I’ve read the past two days on this,the Gordon deal was based around two firsts not Smart.
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Old 03-23-2021, 10:55 AM   #14
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Nets haven’t added anyone in like 4 hours so be warned....
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Old 03-23-2021, 10:57 AM   #15
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Nets haven’t added anyone in like 4 hours so be warned....
They’re linked to Norman Powell. It’s all over twitter afaik.
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I don't think AG to the Celtics really makes sense he doesn't fit there. Tatum is much better at the 4. The Celtics are basically elite offensively with him at the 4 and that is AGs natural position.
Agree on this. AG doesn’t move the needle much for the Celtics.
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Nets haven’t added anyone in like 4 hours so be warned....
Apparently they are pushing hard to acquire Norman Powell, I just don’t see what they could offer in a trade. Raptors have already reportedly shot down a trade involving Powell for Drummond
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Old 03-23-2021, 11:00 AM   #18
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Mavs aren't moving Kristaps.
Kristaps - is going to get better - shooting is going to get crisper, he is a solid 2nd scoring option . If his movements get better and stronger is is a good defender.

We wouldn't be able to get anything better than him right now anyway - he just need to keep working.

Picking up Drummond, if we can would be huge, - even if it is just for this a one year rental if all it cost us is expiring contracts and some 2nd round picks.
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Old 03-23-2021, 11:03 AM   #19
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Guys I think are likely moved:

AarGordon
Drummond
Aldridge
Oladipo
Barnes
G Hill
Horford

Maybe:
Lowry or Powell
Derozan
Bledsoe [if anyone offers anything of value]
Lonzo
R Holmes
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I don't think AG to the Celtics really makes sense he doesn't fit there. Tatum is much better at the 4. The Celtics are basically elite offensively with him at the 4 and that is AGs natural position.

I honestly don't know who the Celtics could possibly add that makes them closer to a contender? Maybe Lowry?
Actually Gordon would be a really good fit. They’ve needed a starting caliber wing that has the length & quickness to switch in their defense while having some versatility on the offensive end. He’s not Gordon Hayward but he seems like he’d be a great fit in that role. I think the question is,other than what it will cost to get him, will he be ok with coming here and being the #3-4 guy on offense? I’m guessing he probably would when it means getting out of Orlando. Harrison Barnes & Larry Nance Jr are two other names that I think could fill that role for Boston.
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Surprised no one has mentioned Lauri Markannen.
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Old 03-23-2021, 11:25 AM   #22
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Actually Gordon would be a really good fit. They’ve needed a starting caliber wing that has the length & quickness to switch in their defense while having some versatility on the offensive end. He’s not Gordon Hayward but he seems like he’d be a great fit in that role. I think the question is,other than what it will cost to get him, will he be ok with coming here and being the #3-4 guy on offense? I’m guessing he probably would when it means getting out of Orlando. Harrison Barnes & Larry Nance Jr are two other names that I think could fill that role for Boston.
I'm just thinking how do the rotations look? If you put AG at the 4 Tatum moves to the 3, now you've got a really big log jam between Thompson/Theis/Williams.

Losing Smart means losing your best perimeter defender. Brown is not a great 1 on 1 defender and now he's likely going to be tasked with guarding the opponents best player every night because Kemba is useless defensively at this point.
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Old 03-23-2021, 11:35 AM   #23
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Yahoo is floating rumors that the Pacers are shopping Brogdon and Sabonis. Trash.
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I'm just thinking how do the rotations look? If you put AG at the 4 Tatum moves to the 3, now you've got a really big log jam between Thompson/Theis/Williams.

Losing Smart means losing your best perimeter defender. Brown is not a great 1 on 1 defender and now he's likely going to be tasked with guarding the opponents best player every night because Kemba is useless defensively at this point.
I’m honestly not too worried about the rotations if they add Gordon. Filling that hole in their lineup is more important than which guy gets more minutes than another. Williams has been slowly taking more minutes away from Thompson with every new week to the point that Thompson might be available by the deadline. If they can add Gordon I’d be ok with moving on from TT.

I’m definitely with you on Smart but I think Brown is a better defender than you’re giving him credit for. This team switches up so much that most nights you’ll see numerous defenders on the other team’s #1. Smart is their defensive floor general and he’s been sorely missed over this past month plus,it hasn’t translated to wins yet but this team has slowly started to look better on both ends of the floor since he’s returned.
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Old 03-23-2021, 11:42 AM   #25
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I've heard possibly Fournier to the Mavs. That would be alright depending on who they'd have to give up in return.
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