Ebay buyer to block- ps2daizzo

ctcardexchange · 06-30-2023, 07:17 PM

ps2daizzo sold me a Jackson Holliday bowman chrome auto. The picture of the card looked perfect. The card I got was off-center and the signature was obviously different. It went through the authenticity guarantee and ebay authenticated it. ebay has closed the case and I'm screwed out of $375

hammertime · 06-30-2023, 07:17 PM

Call ebay.

mikejones · 06-30-2023, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ctcardexchange

ps2daizzo sold me a Jackson Holliday bowman chrome auto. The picture of the card looked perfect. The card I got was off-center and the signature was obviously different. It went through the authenticity guarantee and ebay authenticated it. ebay has closed the case and I'm screwed out of $375

Have a pic of the listing and the pic of what you got? If you paid using a credit card, you can file a charge back. Ebay might ban you though. Have you tried calling customer service? Good luck.

Americards · 07-01-2023, 10:54 AM

If it's not the same card as you bid on, then let them know that it is not the same card as pictured

DynaEtch · 07-01-2023, 11:36 AM

Yea that's a rather 2-bit mistake from ebay AG if true. Would be curious to see the pic of the card you received. I would be on the phone with ebay, and ask for Authenticity Guarantee department and explain you got a different card than pictured.

I always wondered how much effort they are making to match the card exactly to the one pictured in the case of non-numbered cards.

It is *possible* in this case they might have been just making sure it's a NM- or better card (which is generally what they do for cards without a listed condition)- that's equivalent to like a PSA 7- and the one you got even with the less than perfect centering does pass that. So in other words, the photo on the listing treated as essentially a stock photo.

bub838 · 07-01-2023, 12:51 PM

I can say from first hand experience the idea of a “stock” photo doesn’t fly with their auth guarantee. I had three PSA 10’s of the exact same card and used one photo for all three auctions. One made it through and the other two were sent back for having different cert numbers. These were non autos. All identical cards in PSA 10 slabs. Didn’t matter.

DynaEtch · 07-02-2023, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by bub838

I can say from first hand experience the idea of a “stock” photo doesn’t fly with their auth guarantee. I had three PSA 10’s of the exact same card and used one photo for all three auctions. One made it through and the other two were sent back for having different cert numbers. These were non autos. All identical cards in PSA 10 slabs. Didn’t matter.

That's graded though, and it's probable they just make sure the cert # matches the one shown in pic for those. Very quick to verify.

Raw *might* be a different scenario, after all what if someone sells a mint looking brand new 2023 card without an auto, or numbering, for $500. How do they even know if the one received matches that card? Probably cant in many instances.

I mean you'd think with something identifiable like an auto they could figure it out, but still not certain how they proceed with raw cards like this.

Badgers0821 · 07-02-2023, 10:20 AM

Nothing like a good switcharoo to ruin your day, sorry to hear about this one OP.

On other news, I had someone bid on a ton of my auctions at the last second and then proceed to immediately request to cancel the transaction. I didn’t notice it until they were about 5-6 auctions in, in which case I blocked them but still had to relist all of the ones the tampered with. Good times on EBay.

Blake050 · 07-02-2023, 10:40 AM

Thanks for letting us know. Blocked them.

ctcardexchange · 07-03-2023, 07:52 PM

The first picture is the card I bought on ebay and the second is the card I received. Furthermore, ebay has sided with the seller saying the card is authentic. Obviously, they know nothing about trading cards.

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bub838 · 07-03-2023, 11:42 PM

Yeah that’s not even close, as soon as the image came up you can see it’s OC. Sorry that happened, just another instance of eBay being garbage.

Oriole Way · 07-04-2023, 01:43 AM

I could be wrong, but I do believe you can appeal eBay's decision. At the very least, call customer service and ask to escalate the case to a manager.

Sorry to hear about this, totally unacceptable by eBay and the seller is a piece of trash.

Archangel1775 · 07-04-2023, 05:31 AM

I'm not gonna lie, I can't tell by the centering but the autograph does look different

refuse24 · 07-04-2023, 06:35 AM

What a scumbag move for sure to do something like this.I tried to block and for some reason it would not work for me

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ctcardexchange · 07-04-2023, 08:19 AM

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What a scumbag move for sure to do something like this.I tried to block and for some reason it would not work for me

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MiamiMarlinsFan · 07-04-2023, 08:41 AM

Sorry to hear about this, OP. I hope you’re able to file an appeal. I had this happen to me once. The got I got not only had a clearly different auto, but the card had three circular dents in it. Luckily the buyer accepted the return.

Bosoxfan5990 · 07-04-2023, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Archangel1775

I'm not gonna lie, I can't tell by the centering but the autograph does look different

The card that was sent has a top-heavy border compared to the listing picture. That, and the obviously different autograph placements.

06-30-2023, 07:17 PM	#1
ctcardexchange Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Waterbury, CT Posts: 1,265 ctcardexchange ctcardexchange	Ebay buyer to block- ps2daizzo ps2daizzo sold me a Jackson Holliday bowman chrome auto. The picture of the card looked perfect. The card I got was off-center and the signature was obviously different. It went through the authenticity guarantee and ebay authenticated it. ebay has closed the case and I'm screwed out of $375

07-01-2023, 11:36 AM	#5
DynaEtch Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Posts: 9,495	Yea that's a rather 2-bit mistake from ebay AG if true. Would be curious to see the pic of the card you received. I would be on the phone with ebay, and ask for Authenticity Guarantee department and explain you got a different card than pictured. I always wondered how much effort they are making to match the card exactly to the one pictured in the case of non-numbered cards. It is possible in this case they might have been just making sure it's a NM- or better card (which is generally what they do for cards without a listed condition)- that's equivalent to like a PSA 7- and the one you got even with the less than perfect centering does pass that. So in other words, the photo on the listing treated as essentially a stock photo. __________________ ~~~ '90s trading cards === Golden Era ~~~

07-04-2023, 05:31 AM	#13
Archangel1775 Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Cali baby! Posts: 21,861	I'm not gonna lie, I can't tell by the centering but the autograph does look different __________________ *There are the intangibles that set someone apart from the pack.So the blur isn't your inability to see his greatness, it's merely the inability to measure it.*

06-30-2023, 07:17 PM	#2
hammertime Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: OH->MI->MD->VA Posts: 6,847	Call ebay.

07-01-2023, 10:54 AM	#4
Americards Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: USA Posts: 4,754	If it's not the same card as you bid on, then let them know that it is not the same card as pictured

07-01-2023, 12:51 PM	#6
bub838 Member Join Date: Mar 2022 Posts: 4,981	I can say from first hand experience the idea of a “stock” photo doesn’t fly with their auth guarantee. I had three PSA 10’s of the exact same card and used one photo for all three auctions. One made it through and the other two were sent back for having different cert numbers. These were non autos. All identical cards in PSA 10 slabs. Didn’t matter.

07-02-2023, 10:20 AM	#8
Badgers0821 Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 8,064	Nothing like a good switcharoo to ruin your day, sorry to hear about this one OP. On other news, I had someone bid on a ton of my auctions at the last second and then proceed to immediately request to cancel the transaction. I didn’t notice it until they were about 5-6 auctions in, in which case I blocked them but still had to relist all of the ones the tampered with. Good times on EBay.

07-02-2023, 10:40 AM	#9
Blake050 Member Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 575	Thanks for letting us know. Blocked them.

07-03-2023, 07:52 PM	#10
ctcardexchange Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Waterbury, CT Posts: 1,265 ctcardexchange ctcardexchange	The first picture is the card I bought on ebay and the second is the card I received. Furthermore, ebay has sided with the seller saying the card is authentic. Obviously, they know nothing about trading cards.

07-03-2023, 11:42 PM	#11
bub838 Member Join Date: Mar 2022 Posts: 4,981	Yeah that’s not even close, as soon as the image came up you can see it’s OC. Sorry that happened, just another instance of eBay being garbage.

07-04-2023, 01:43 AM	#12
Oriole Way Member Join Date: Mar 2021 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 584 greystreetaa	I could be wrong, but I do believe you can appeal eBay's decision. At the very least, call customer service and ask to escalate the case to a manager. Sorry to hear about this, totally unacceptable by eBay and the seller is a piece of trash.

07-04-2023, 06:35 AM	#14
refuse24 Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 2,934	What a scumbag move for sure to do something like this.I tried to block and for some reason it would not work for me Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

07-04-2023, 08:41 AM	#16
MiamiMarlinsFan Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Florida Posts: 13,595	Sorry to hear about this, OP. I hope you’re able to file an appeal. I had this happen to me once. The got I got not only had a clearly different auto, but the card had three circular dents in it. Luckily the buyer accepted the return.