1954 Topps Ted Williams #250 REAL or FAKE!!

[Nekrez]

At the end of summer, a client gifted me their entire baseball card collection—roughly 150,000 cards packed in collector-grade 4- and 5-row boxes with binders. While sorting through it, I came across a Mickey Mantle and Ted Williams card stored in some dingy, yellowed top loaders. I immediately swapped them into Card Saver 1s and sent them to COMC, where I usually send my low-end cards for sale. For these particular cards, I opted for COMC’s direct-to-grading service, marking my first-ever submission to PSA. I was thrilled, especially since these cards had likely been sitting in her closet for over nine years.

However, when PSA returned the 1954 Topps Ted Williams #250 card, it came with a “Questionable Authenticity” label. To be honest, the card looked mint to me! It was frustrating—why couldn’t they confirm if it was real or not? So, I decided to re-submit the card, this time to SGC. But here’s the thing: I feel like I’m paying twice since PSA and SGC are both owned by Collectors Co. (and COMC offers both as grading options). So, now I’m stuck. What should I do? Does anyone think the card is real or fake?


Let me know your thoughts!
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[itsbaytime]

Questionable authenticity usually means it is fake. You are probably going to have the same result at SGC. We obviously can not comment on something we can not see, so upload some scans or pictures if you have them.

[MiamiMarlinsFan]

I’m no vintage expert, so just ignore my take, but that card does not look legit to me. Not at all.

[SyrNy1960]

Originally Posted by miamimarlinsfan

i’m no vintage expert, so just ignore my take, but that card does not look legit to me. Not at all.

+100 👍🏻

[Archangel1775]

Originally Posted by Nekrez

However, when PSA returned the 1954 Topps Ted Williams #250 card, it came with a “Questionable Authenticity” label. To be honest, the card looked mint to me! It was frustrating—why couldn’t they confirm if it was real or not? So, I decided to re-submit the card, this time to SGC. But here’s the thing: I feel like I’m paying twice since PSA and SGC are both owned by Collectors Co. (and COMC offers both as grading options). So, now I’m stuck. What should I do? Does anyone think the card is real or fake?

They gave you their opinion.......



https://www.psacard.com/gradingstandards

[discostu]

Although the scan isn't ideal, the card doesn't look right.

Do you have other 1954s to compare the stock and printing? The black and white "action" should only feature black ink, and yours looks like maybe it's process black.

The edges appear to show a whiter stock than the blank stock on the back.

[Big35Hurt]

Agreed....looks fake. There is a vintage section here and Net54 is full of vintage experts if you still want additional opinions.

[Archangel1775]

If my eyes are deceiving me, the slight edge wear shows bright white card stock. Does it look white from the edge view? That would be a dead giveaway. Feel free to post before you send any other high value cards and the commmunity can give you their opinion.

[hxcmilkshake]

Not sure if it's your pics but it's wayyyyy too dark. Can't even make out the mascot guys little hand

Where's the Mantle

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[Nekrez]

I will post the mantle when it comes back from psa, 1958 Topps #150, thank you all for the information. I appreciate your time and expertise. I just wish it wasn’t my first submission uuug. The anticipation of my first graded card coming back the long wait just to to see “do not holder” it hurts man it really does.

[JustRachel]

Originally Posted by MiamiMarlinsFan

I’m no vintage expert, so just ignore my take, but that card does not look legit to me. Not at all.

Correct, it's not even a good fake. Sorry OP.

[SaveMeTheGum]

Question. Were the Ted Williams and Mickey Mantle cards among a lot of other vintage cards, or were they randomly among a bunch of junk wax cards. That will usually answer it for you. It's unlikely to find a mint 1954 topps hall of famer mixed with a bunch of worthless stuff. But yeah, that looks fake.

[SleepyWill]

I've put together the 54' set a few years back and still like to pick up certain singles from time to time.

Without a doubt fake, very rarely, if ever do you find one loose copy with such dead straight sides/corners. Would strongly recommend buying a base nobody from that set in a decent grade (5/6 which runs 20-35 dollars) and crack it out. Use that to compare all other loose purchases to, in terms of dimensions and overall feel off the card.

[rms13]

If it looks too good to be true it probably isn't. If that was real it would be at least a 5 figure card if not 6 figure or more. Do you really think someone would gift that to you and do you really think they would have it and not know what they have? There are no PSA 10 of that card and 5 PSA 9. If it was real it may be the greatest example of that card in existence. The odds that someone would just give that to you in a giant box of junk wax cards is probably zero

[towerymt]

Fake.

If you list it on ebay and include the PSA assessment that it's questionable authenticity...some fool will still buy it (not calling you a fool, but if someone told you that the card was not authentic and then you still bought it, then I would ).

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1604588

[THE(NEXT)LEVEL]

Fake….1954 has “fuzz” along the cards edges to some degree in most. Those are razor sharp edges…

[sickmantz]

Piling on. Obvious fake.

[mchenrycards]

Originally Posted by SleepyWill

I've put together the 54' set a few years back and still like to pick up certain singles from time to time.

Without a doubt fake, very rarely, if ever do you find one loose copy with such dead straight sides/corners. Would strongly recommend buying a base nobody from that set in a decent grade (5/6 which runs 20-35 dollars) and crack it out. Use that to compare all other loose purchases to, in terms of dimensions and overall feel off the card.

Totally agree. I have collected this set and there is just something not right. Its hard to tell from the scan but I bet the card stock is the dead give way that this card is fake. I know it sounds crazy but old cards have a "smell"......did this one smell old and musty? You can fake cards and you can age them in many ways but you can never give them that musty smell.

[mizzoujohn]

Don’t waste your money. It’s counterfeit. Card stock is way too white among other issues.


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[discodanman45]

100% fake, see this garbage selling on Etsy all the time.

[SleepyWill]

Think there are reprints from the early 90's as well, so it could be those.

[discodanman45]

Originally Posted by SleepyWill

Think there are reprints from the early 90's as well, so it could be those.

All licensed reprints will have verbiage on the backs that reflect that. This is a fake meant to deceive and rip someone off. The OP paid PSA/SGC about $50 to find this out unfortunately.

[vwnut13]

Originally Posted by discodanman45

All licensed reprints will have verbiage on the backs that reflect that. This is a fake meant to deceive and rip someone off. The OP paid PSA/SGC about $50 to find this out unfortunately.

Only $50!?

I'm surprised PSA doesn't base their grading fees on what a card would have been worth if it wasn't fake.

Oops, I just gave them another idea.

[discodanman45]

Originally Posted by vwnut13

Only $50!?

I'm surprised PSA doesn't base their grading fees on what a card would have been worth if it wasn't fake.

Oops, I just gave them another idea.

The idea i like is if PSA gets a card like this, they won't charge you grading and will run the card through a paper shredder.

[Nekrez]

Originally Posted by rms13

If it looks too good to be true it probably isn't. If that was real it would be at least a 5 figure card if not 6 figure or more. Do you really think someone would gift that to you and do you really think they would have it and not know what they have? There are no PSA 10 of that card and 5 PSA 9. If it was real it may be the greatest example of that card in existence. The odds that someone would just give that to you in a giant box of junk wax cards is probably zero

The lot this came from contained over 120,000 cards, and I have a few hundred set aside for submission. These were just a couple that stood out to me. Out of the entire lot, only two were graded. The cards are in surprisingly good condition, which is rare. The client who "gifted" them to me is an older woman for whom I did a few hundred dollars' worth of work. She mainly wanted the collection moved to free up space in her home. To my knowledge, the cards were stored in a closet—not an attic or basement—for over nine years!