Black Friday 2023 Thread

[yiguiri2002]

It's that time of the year, and I know 90% of BO feels like everything basketball is overpriced by 300% and nothing should be bought. But if you are in the other 10%, feel free to drop by and show what you got this year.

[ninjacookies]

Some of the no nut noviembre BO deals seem somewhat decent. Everyone on here complains about the ridonkulous price gauging on hobby, but there've been a few semi-enticing cases on the cheap if your goal is to scratch the itch.


Tempted to cop a case of NPB.

[yoyosh]

Originally Posted by ninjacookies

Some of the no nut noviembre BO deals seem somewhat decent. Everyone on here complains about the ridonkulous price gauging on hobby, but there've been a few semi-enticing cases on the cheap if your goal is to scratch the itch.


Tempted to cop a case of NPB.

Other than NPB what has your attn?

[ninjacookies]

Originally Posted by yoyosh

Other than NPB what has your attn?

Perhaps mosaic jumbos, only because I think Chet's stuff is still severely undervalued and will keep climbing. Gunning for NBP only because I'm a huge fan of Sasaki and think he's going to be great.

[anusinha]

the $99 21/22 s2 hockey tin case is a decent deal, 4-5 of the young guns will nearly pay for the entire case in PSA 10, and that series graded really well.

[jdhaugh11]

I was wanting to pick up a 20 box retail blaster case of 2021 Skybox Metal Champions, because I thought BO would put them on their Black Friday deals. They did under Wave 4, however they raised the price by $50 rather than lowering the price. You can get it from BO via ebay for $35 cheaper than they have it on their site for!
I emailed them and messaged them on X, but they have yet to update the price, so I am guessing that this was their plan all along. I wonder how many other products did they increase the price or keep the same & pretend that it's a super Black Friday sale price?

[kingofsnake]

2022 Benchwarmer Soccer Edition is 50% off.

[wxguy44]

Half tempted at the Rittenhouse X-Files boxes, but I don't have much experience with that company's releases to know if it's worthwhile or not.

[bustsomewax]

Originally Posted by kingofsnake

2022 Benchwarmer Soccer Edition is 50% off.

Who are you chasing in that?

[nabzy28]

I'm watching, but probably waiting even longer. This is not turning around and the market for this stuff from the last few years is still way too much with everything going on in the card market right now. It's a bit concerning how many people are just very recently noticing that many single cards are down 60-90% over the last 2 years. Scary, actually. It would seem that sealed product is a massive lagging indicator, lol.

[wubh]

Originally Posted by wxguy44

Half tempted at the Rittenhouse X-Files boxes, but I don't have much experience with that company's releases to know if it's worthwhile or not.

I collect Rittenhouse Star Trek and the QC is fantastic! Like blows Topps & Panini out of the water. Great collation, usually nice card stock and all on-card autos.

Whether or not there's 'value' will really depend on the auto checklist for each release and what you pull and if you intrinsically like the show.

Rittenhouse's website/external checklists will usually designate tiers for autos and general print runs, which can run to as little as 10-20 per the rarest inscriptions.

For Star Trek cases, usually you'll hit a single auto from the rarest tier (which can include duals), maybe 2. And sketch cards which can hold nice value are usually in every other case.

Sometimes your rare auto will be one of the chase actors for the set but sometimes not so much, depending on how watered down the checklist is. Maybe you get David Duchovny and cover a good chunk of the case cost. But he might also not even be included. And there can be huge differences in different releases from the same series (for example, the Dr. Who franchise is notorious for this).

Lastly, because collation is really good and lots of fans will have already bought some boxes on their own, demand for complete base sets is usually very low but I don’t know how the X-Files market works.

I would say, if you're not already a decently big fan of X-Files, there are more fun packs to open, even if you can get decent ROI after selling everything.

[wubh]

Originally Posted by nabzy28

I'm watching, but probably waiting even longer. This is not turning around and the market for this stuff from the last few years is still way too much with everything going on in the card market right now. It's a bit concerning how many people are just very recently noticing that many single cards are down 60-90% over the last 2 years. Scary, actually. It would seem that sealed product is a massive lagging indicator, lol.

I haven’t been impressed by 95% of the NBA/MLB/NFL deals but there have been some good deals in more niche areas IMO.

I’ve bought and ripped 4 cases of WNBA Revolution and 1 case of WWE Chrome Match Attax (before they bumped it back to $700) because I collect these sports and they were a blast to open at that price and I might even have a shot at making my money back if I grind everything out slowly over the next year or two.

Also grabbed a case of 21 Chrome NPB baseball to probably hold since that looked like a really good deal.

I’ll be curious if some current deals that aren’t moving get slashed more as we get to actual Black Friday as well as what else has been saved so far. I imagine I won’t be done buying yet this promo period.

[kingofsnake]

Originally Posted by bustsomewax

Who are you chasing in that?

[yiguiri2002]

Glad the thread is gaining some traction. Let's see what Wave 5 brings.

For now, all I bought was a case of 21-22 Chronicles Asia at 900. Huge deal. Two SSP numbered cards per box with good odds to hit an auto and even the base is SP.

Nothing else on the basketball side for now. I like the 21-22 Mosaic deals but not enough to pull the trigger. Deals on Chronicles retail are decent too but I busted enough of that.

[wubh]

Originally Posted by yiguiri2002

For now, all I bought was a case of 21-22 Chronicles Asia at 900. Huge deal. Two SSP numbered cards per box with good odds to hit an auto and even the base is SP.

I think I saw but skipped over it since I wasn't specifically familiar with the Asia variation for this set (but have loved some of the other basketball Asia/Tmall editions).

Good to hear that this one is a good deal and I'll keep an eye on it if the price drops again since I'm still pretty high on this draft class in comparison to discounted wax prices. I imagine BO warehouse are absolutely overflowing with 2020-2022 basketball.

[ninjacookies]

Feeling decent about my 2 NPB cases now. Hope they do restock more. All-in.

[jfan2024]

Originally Posted by yiguiri2002

Glad the thread is gaining some traction. Let's see what Wave 5 brings.

For now, all I bought was a case of 21-22 Chronicles Asia at 900. Huge deal. Two SSP numbered cards per box with good odds to hit an auto and even the base is SP.

Nothing else on the basketball side for now. I like the 21-22 Mosaic deals but not enough to pull the trigger. Deals on Chronicles retail are decent too but I busted enough of that.

Are you sure you were talking about chronicles? I don't remember chronicles tmall having numbered card guarantees in any year. Just 6 card packs of fancy prizms but not 2 numbered a box

[yiguiri2002]

Originally Posted by jfan2024

Are you sure you were talking about chronicles? I don't remember chronicles tmall having numbered card guarantees in any year. Just 6 card packs of fancy prizms but not 2 numbered a box

That was in 20-21. They changed it for 21-22 and made 22-23 even more limited (2 cards numbered to 48 or less).

It's been flying under the radar for a while, I found out about 21-22 this year lol

[jfan2024]

Originally Posted by yiguiri2002

That was in 20-21. They changed it for 21-22 and made 22-23 even more limited (2 cards numbered to 48 or less).

It's been flying under the radar for a while, I found out about 21-22 this year lol

I'll have to start keeping an eye out again on wechat. Tmall was so good at inception, then became just the watered down unnumbered prizms, but now it's making a comeback again in quality without the hype.

2020-21 chronicles was clearly a bad product. I just checked and it's still available on panini's tmall store right now for 200RMB a box which is about US$28

I figure basketball 2020 through now is going to get discounted even more at some point. Tmall is full of that stuff still for basically every basketball brand and panini can't let it sit there forever on their site.

[DiamondDonovan]

Originally Posted by yiguiri2002

That was in 20-21. They changed it for 21-22 and made 22-23 even more limited (2 cards numbered to 48 or less).

It's been flying under the radar for a while, I found out about 21-22 this year lol

Wish I grabbed more 22-23 when it was $60-$70 a box!

[glassofwater]

I think 2022 McDonald’s chrome will be a good buy if they lower the price of a case even more.

Has a lot of top draft picks that will not have autos in any panini product.
Brandon miller
Anthony black
Jarabe walker
Cam withmore

[wubh]

Originally Posted by glassofwater

I think 2022 McDonald’s chrome will be a good buy if they lower the price of a case even more.

Has a lot of top draft picks that will not have autos in any panini product.
Brandon miller
Anthony black
Jarabe walker
Cam withmore

I love a good Chrome rip and might consider these at $400 a case because I think too many of the auto subjects have good to elite role player as their ceiling and flaming out of the NBA after their rookie contract ends as their floor.

That's not to say that these players won't ever hold value or have a hot spell but unless somebody totally breaks out, I think those periods could be very brief, if they come at all.

So far in this young NBA season, the biggest surprise is Cason Wallace. He plays like a pro already. A comp that I heard on the Thinking Basketball podcast was Hersey Hawkins and I can totally see him having a Hersey Hawkins type of career. And Derek Lively might run the Tyson Chandler playbook to a long career. I was OK-ish on Miller leading up to draft and he seems to be meeting that expectation so far.

Then again, at $500/case (or less), you can't really expect too much upside.

[wubh]

Originally Posted by yiguiri2002

Glad the thread is gaining some traction. Let's see what Wave 5 brings.

For now, all I bought was a case of 21-22 Chronicles Asia at 900. Huge deal. Two SSP numbered cards per box with good odds to hit an auto and even the base is SP.

Back in stock for Wave 5. I watched a couple of YouTube breaks and idk. At this price, it comes out to $3.75 per card.

Curious if you've gotten your case yet or what you've pulled in previous boxes.

[ninjacookies]

Biggest issue with 21-22 products is the class is pretty weaksauce.

Cade
JG
Mobley
Barnes
Suggs
Giddey
Off-the-bench Kuminga
Franz
.....
.....

All seem like decent rotational players and perhaps a few all-star nods sprinkled in, but no real franchise caliber 1a's that drive the hobby $$.

It's crazy when the biggest pull in that class is Can Thomas.

[jdhaugh11]

Originally Posted by jdhaugh11

I was wanting to pick up a 20 box retail blaster case of 2021 Skybox Metal Champions, because I thought BO would put them on their Black Friday deals. They did under Wave 4, however they raised the price by $50 rather than lowering the price. You can get it from BO via ebay for $35 cheaper than they have it on their site for!
I emailed them and messaged them on X, but they have yet to update the price, so I am guessing that this was their plan all along. I wonder how many other products did they increase the price or keep the same & pretend that it's a super Black Friday sale price?

Competitor had blaster cases for $177!
That's $123 less than BO, finally a price I couldn't say no to.
I have been working on completing the insert & bronze parallel sets.