One of the members here is a shill bidder look here!

dashouls · 06-12-2009, 07:36 PM

08 UD Heroes Bo Jackson GU 2 Colored Patch #07/10 Rare - eBay (item 320380590576 end time Jun-12-09 21:08:46 PDT)

If you look at it the one seller with only 6 feedback has all his bid activity only with this seller. Activity with this seller 100%? Odd huh? I thought so too. His name is the same as his ebay.

Nodie27 · 06-12-2009, 07:52 PM

that is pretty strange

pskell02 · 06-12-2009, 07:54 PM

Little quick to accuse him of shill bidding on his own items there. 30 day records show that the buyer bid 1 time on another of his items and it looks like he incrementally increased his bid on this item to reach his own max buy price. I've bid 5-10 times on one item doing the same thing, trying to get it as cheap as possible before reaching my max bid. It may still be a shill bid situation, but I might give the benefit of the doubt on this one. If he had bid on more of the sellers items, it might make me think differently.

dashouls · 06-12-2009, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by pskell02

Little quick to accuse him of shill bidding on his own items there. 30 day records show that the buyer bid 1 time on another of his items and it looks like he incrementally increased his bid on this item to reach his own max buy price. I've bid 5-10 times on one item doing the same thing, trying to get it as cheap as possible before reaching my max bid. It may still be a shill bid situation, but I might give the benefit of the doubt on this one. If he had bid on more of the sellers items, it might make me think differently.

Oh no I'm not accusing him *yet* I was just letting everyone know because 1. The price seemed high. 2. It looked suspicous and it was a board member.

go_steelers07 · 06-12-2009, 07:58 PM

why not ask the board member through a PM FIRST before you took it upon your self to start a thread about it?

findizzle04 · 06-12-2009, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by dashouls

Oh no I'm not accusing him *yet* I was just letting everyone know because 1. The price seemed high. 2. It looked suspicous and it was a board member.

How is creating a thread that says a member is a shill bidder, not accusing someone of shill bidding???

crr9381 · 06-12-2009, 08:01 PM

you arent accusing them, but the title to your post is that one of the members here is a shill bidder. He bid on 2 items from the seller. If you looked at my ebay account and bidding history, it might appear that i am a shill bidder because i bid on a lot of cards that the owner of my lcs lists because i dont have to pay for shipping.

pskell02 · 06-12-2009, 08:01 PM

Add to it the fact that the current max bid is $22 more than the potential shill bidder's high bid. Not sure about the shill bidders you've seen in the past, but I would think they would shill it up when the item was getting close to finishing to drive the price up to higher than it should be. Not bidding when there is a group of bidders that are easily willing to surpass that early bid.

dashouls · 06-12-2009, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by go_steelers07

why not ask the board member through a PM FIRST before you took it upon your self to start a thread about it?

Why would I pm him and ask him if he was a shill bidder? Because even if he is he is going to tell me no. And I was waiting for his response so im not accusing him quite yet.( you know what I mean.) If he backs him self up I would assume he is or isnt depending on the type of his response.

go_steelers07 · 06-12-2009, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by dashouls

Why would I pm him and ask him if he was a shill bidder? Because even if he is he is going to tell me no. And I was waiting for his response so im not accusing him quite yet.( you know what I mean.) If he backs him self up I would assume he is or isnt depending on the type of his response.

this is what you do through PM's first before ACCUSING him......... and in your thread title, you accused him............

findizzle04 · 06-12-2009, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by dashouls

Why would I pm him and ask him if he was a shill bidder? Because even if he is he is going to tell me no. And I was waiting for his response so im not accusing him quite yet.( you know what I mean.) If he backs him self up I would assume he is or isnt depending on the type of his response.

The more you "explain yourself" the worse you look. Again:

HOW IS THIS NOT ACCUSING HIM OF SHILL BIDDING?????

crr9381 · 06-12-2009, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by dashouls

Why would I pm him and ask him if he was a shill bidder? Because even if he is he is going to tell me no. And I was waiting for his response so im not accusing him quite yet.( you know what I mean.) If he backs him self up I would assume he is or isnt depending on the type of his response.

So if he doesnt defend himself to a false accusation to your liking, that makes him a shill bidder? wow, im glad the legal system doesnt work like that.

findizzle04 · 06-12-2009, 08:08 PM

dashouls · 06-12-2009, 08:10 PM

Ok guys chill out. I was trying to help you guys of what might be an auction you wanted to avoid. Jeez findizzle your probably a 30 something waiting to make fun of a 15 year old kid. You must feel pretty cool man. Pretty cool....

gizmo675675 · 06-12-2009, 08:11 PM

D stop digging a "BIG" hole...... and think about what you are saying, before you say it...

kelleys1 · 06-12-2009, 08:28 PM

Just a piece of advice for you....you may want to watch yourself around here and lay low with your prior history for a little while....even if your accusations are true.

dashouls · 06-12-2009, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by kelleys1

Just a piece of advice for you....you may want to watch yourself around here and lay low with your prior history for a little while....even if your accusations are true.

Well IF my accusations are true then I should have nothing to hide. I dont care about my past history thats happened it's done it's over.

iluvfish2 · 06-12-2009, 08:36 PM

Yes its over with. But for me just getting on and reading this...your not questioning anything, with the title and your text, your flat out blaming someone for something that may or may not be true. In the real world this would be slander and you'd better have an attorney.

signal_fifty · 06-12-2009, 08:38 PM

Why do you guys even respond to the crap that he posts? That's all he wants, is to stir the pot. If you let it go, maybe, just maybe, he will go away...

dashouls · 06-12-2009, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by signal_fifty

Why do you guys even respond to the crap that he posts? That's all he wants, is to stir the pot. If you let it go, maybe, just maybe, he will go away...

Look who is talking your relatively new here yourself.

petyparamoreAHS · 06-12-2009, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by dashouls

Look who is talking your relatively new here yourself.

Only a year and a half compared to your 4 months...

signal_fifty · 06-12-2009, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by petyparamoreAHS

Only a year and a half compared to your 4 months...

And might I add, a year and a half with out any vacations

dashouls · 06-12-2009, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by signal_fifty

And might I add, a year and a half with out any vacations

You also have only 12 transactions and 185 posts. Not Impressing me or giving you respect. Petey I will he posts frequently and has a decent amount of transactions

crr9381 · 06-12-2009, 08:55 PM

you should give people respect because they are upstanding members and arent going around accusing people of unethical behavior with little evidence. And fish is correct, you could be sued for slander based off of what you said.

dashouls · 06-12-2009, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by crr9381

you should give people respect because they are upstanding members and arent going around accusing people of unethical behavior with little evidence. And fish is correct, you could be sued for slander based off of what you said.

Trust me I cannont be sued. And If it doesnt involve you dont post. I swear a new person calls someone out. And all you "Vets" Hop on his dick enough is enough seriously. The anything people talk about is the new annoying kids. Seriously guys were you once 12-14? Their new to the hobby and as you guys being " Vets" should help them out with pointers and such not make or post Obnoxious pictures saying schools out ect ect. Really guys if you think about it your what 30-40 years old and are picking on middle school and highschool kids. Then you guys call them Immature? Ok I get it the Buy my Dontrelle Willis Base card for 100$ gets annoying but just let it slide by... No need to put stupid things on their threads. Pm them and teach them. Just for you "vets" have a little respect for the new people. I'm here to have a good time as is everyone else.

06-12-2009, 07:36 PM	#1
dashouls Banned Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 530	One of the members here is a shill bidder look here! 08 UD Heroes Bo Jackson GU 2 Colored Patch #07/10 Rare - eBay (item 320380590576 end time Jun-12-09 21:08:46 PDT) If you look at it the one seller with only 6 feedback has all his bid activity only with this seller. Activity with this seller 100%? Odd huh? I thought so too. His name is the same as his ebay.

06-12-2009, 07:52 PM	#2
Nodie27 Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Downey, CA Posts: 5,120 jmscards2009	that is pretty strange __________________ #TeamConnor

06-12-2009, 07:54 PM	#3
pskell02 Moderator Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: North Hollywood, CA Posts: 21,901 pskell02 pskell02	Little quick to accuse him of shill bidding on his own items there. 30 day records show that the buyer bid 1 time on another of his items and it looks like he incrementally increased his bid on this item to reach his own max buy price. I've bid 5-10 times on one item doing the same thing, trying to get it as cheap as possible before reaching my max bid. It may still be a shill bid situation, but I might give the benefit of the doubt on this one. If he had bid on more of the sellers items, it might make me think differently. __________________ Click here to be notified when I post a new group break https://www.sportlots.com/dealers/?dealer=pskell02

06-12-2009, 08:01 PM	#7
crr9381 Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,366 crr9381 crr9381	you arent accusing them, but the title to your post is that one of the members here is a shill bidder. He bid on 2 items from the seller. If you looked at my ebay account and bidding history, it might appear that i am a shill bidder because i bid on a lot of cards that the owner of my lcs lists because i dont have to pay for shipping. __________________ Currently looking for the following cards: 1992 score mickey mantle autograph(Already Got) 1994 upper deck mickey mantle autograph 1993 pinnacle Joe dimaggio autograph 2010 topps chipper Jones/ mickey mantle dual gu/50(Got)

06-12-2009, 08:01 PM	#8
pskell02 Moderator Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: North Hollywood, CA Posts: 21,901 pskell02 pskell02	Add to it the fact that the current max bid is $22 more than the potential shill bidder's high bid. Not sure about the shill bidders you've seen in the past, but I would think they would shill it up when the item was getting close to finishing to drive the price up to higher than it should be. Not bidding when there is a group of bidders that are easily willing to surpass that early bid. __________________ Click here to be notified when I post a new group break https://www.sportlots.com/dealers/?dealer=pskell02

06-12-2009, 07:58 PM	#5
go_steelers07 Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Nittany Lion Country Posts: 11,168 psu98	why not ask the board member through a PM FIRST before you took it upon your self to start a thread about it?

06-12-2009, 08:08 PM	#13
findizzle04 Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Kent City, MI Posts: 1,100 Findizzle04	__________________ Everything in my bucket (findizzle04) is for sale/trade!!!! http://s547.photobucket.com/albums/hh443/findizzle04/

06-12-2009, 08:10 PM	#14
dashouls Banned Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 530	Ok guys chill out. I was trying to help you guys of what might be an auction you wanted to avoid. Jeez findizzle your probably a 30 something waiting to make fun of a 15 year old kid. You must feel pretty cool man. Pretty cool....

06-12-2009, 08:11 PM	#15
gizmo675675 Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Portland...rip city Posts: 3,183 gizmo675675	D stop digging a "BIG" hole...... and think about what you are saying, before you say it... __________________ LOOKING FOR NICOLAS BATUM & KEVIN DURANT cards I dont have already.

06-12-2009, 08:28 PM	#16
kelleys1 Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Dothan, AL Posts: 5,156 shawnk1979 kelleys1	Just a piece of advice for you....you may want to watch yourself around here and lay low with your prior history for a little while....even if your accusations are true. __________________ Sportslots ID: shawnk79

06-12-2009, 08:36 PM	#18
iluvfish2 Moderator Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Lansing, Michigan Posts: 26,684 iluvfish2 iluvfish2	Yes its over with. But for me just getting on and reading this...your not questioning anything, with the title and your text, your flat out blaming someone for something that may or may not be true. In the real world this would be slander and you'd better have an attorney. __________________ Blowouts Resident Wade Boggs Super Collector

06-12-2009, 08:38 PM	#19
signal_fifty Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: The Brass City Posts: 1,064 signal_fifty signal_fifty	Why do you guys even respond to the crap that he posts? That's all he wants, is to stir the pot. If you let it go, maybe, just maybe, he will go away... __________________ Buying single signed HOF baseballs

06-12-2009, 08:55 PM	#24
crr9381 Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,366 crr9381 crr9381	you should give people respect because they are upstanding members and arent going around accusing people of unethical behavior with little evidence. And fish is correct, you could be sued for slander based off of what you said. __________________ Currently looking for the following cards: 1992 score mickey mantle autograph(Already Got) 1994 upper deck mickey mantle autograph 1993 pinnacle Joe dimaggio autograph 2010 topps chipper Jones/ mickey mantle dual gu/50(Got)