Ryan Howard cut from Braves minor league contract

markinca · 05-08-2017, 09:11 PM

Probably the end of the line for him, even though he says he still has something in the tank.

First off, I didn't even know he was even in the Braves system to begin with. Anyway, the guy is 37 and he was bad even before he was old, but after looking on baseball-reference, I didn't realize he was THAT bad.

He won the MVP in 2006, his first full season in the majors, and then from 2010-2016, he was literally worthless (more precisely, less than worthless), putting up -2.1 bWAR TOTAL (yes, that's a negative) for those 7 years, while being paid $154M. Wow.

I don't remember any MVP falling off that massively that fast. Here's to hoping teams are smarter now and there won't be many more 'Ryan Howard contracts' in the future.

ThoseBackPages · 05-08-2017, 09:13 PM

Pujols Vs Howard

R.I.P BMB

gobullz1 · 05-08-2017, 09:14 PM

Brotha got paid

no10pin · 05-08-2017, 09:22 PM

Dale Murphy is the other one that comes to memory. They were similar ages when their drop-off occurred too.

texmcpherson · 05-08-2017, 09:35 PM

Does that mean his hobby window has passed?

SDcardguy24 · 05-08-2017, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by texmcpherson

Does that mean his hobby window has passed?

What was his hottest card when he peaked?

ThoseBackPages · 05-08-2017, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SDcardguy24

What was his hottest card when he peaked?

2003 Bowman's Best RC Auto

LCM1223 · 05-08-2017, 09:41 PM

Yea it was tough to see his decline but even tougher knowing how much he was getting paid to decline.

Should've hung em up after the last game of the season last year after the send off he got

hofcollector2 · 05-08-2017, 10:19 PM

He should not have even won that MVP in 2006

HeritageKing · 05-08-2017, 10:34 PM

Brought a title to his team. What has Trout and Harper done?

natbornkiller · 05-08-2017, 10:41 PM

watch
gets a minor league deal with an al team and tears it up as a dh

preakness · 05-08-2017, 10:45 PM

I wanted that UD usa auto so
Badly but kept pulling Mauer and others

centereacan06 · 05-08-2017, 10:45 PM

Wouldn't be surprised to see him end up in Asia.

markinca · 05-08-2017, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by HeritageKing

Brought a title to his team. What has Trout and Harper done?

oh cmon, that was more that they had prime utley and rollins than howard's below average contributions.

it'd be like saying david ross brought the cubs a world series.

gobullz1 · 05-08-2017, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by preakness

I wanted that UD usa auto so
Badly but kept pulling Mauer and others

Mauer was a good pull

centereacan06 · 05-08-2017, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by HeritageKing

Brought a title to his team. What has Trout and Harper done?

You say that like if you replace Howard with Harper or Trout the Phillies don't win the title. The probably win in 2009 as well with either of those two.

Nk2014 · 05-08-2017, 10:52 PM

I remember in 2007 and getting his autograph at a Giants game, was 11 at the time, was really nice, I was so excited. He was the biggest person I had ever seen it seemed like. Well he made his money it's a shame he fell off, baseball is like no other sport so mental

TWard · 05-08-2017, 11:51 PM

His downslope was one of the quickest I've ever seen. It seemed like he was hitting 40 HRs one year and an MVP candidate, then the next year, he was essentially the worst player on his team. Regardless, he got paid an insane amount of money, so good for him, even though he was a detriment to the Phillies his last few years there.

That 2003 Bowman's Best auto was insane, though. They blew up like crazy. I wanted one so badly but didn't give in, thankfully.

REGGIE206 · 05-09-2017, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by no10pin

Dale Murphy is the other one that comes to memory. They were similar ages when their drop-off occurred too.

Man, I was a huge Dale Murphy fan when I was a kid..

Nyfancam01 · 05-09-2017, 01:12 AM

Seems like his World Series loss to the Yankees was the end of "scary" ryan howard...

rman112 · 05-09-2017, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Nyfancam01

Seems like his World Series loss to the Yankees was the end of "scary" ryan howard...

2011 playoff injury (last out?) seemed to put a fork in him

awz50 · 05-09-2017, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by rman112

2011 playoff injury (last out?) seemed to put a fork in him

Last out when he #@#@#@#@ed up his acl

vwnut13 · 05-09-2017, 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by awz50

Last out when he #@#@#@#@ed up his acl

Achilles tendon.

awz50 · 05-09-2017, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by vwnut13

Achilles tendon.

I meant this 🙄

Chris Carpenter pitched a hell of a game. I think it was a one hitter and the hit was a triple

fulltritty · 05-09-2017, 05:07 AM

I'm waiting for the National to sign him up as a VIP signer to add to the already bad list of players they are giving us again this year.

They'll hype is MVP award as if he was a good player.

05-08-2017, 09:11 PM	#1
markinca Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 1,936 MarkInCA	Ryan Howard cut from Braves minor league contract Probably the end of the line for him, even though he says he still has something in the tank. First off, I didn't even know he was even in the Braves system to begin with. Anyway, the guy is 37 and he was bad even before he was old, but after looking on baseball-reference, I didn't realize he was THAT bad. He won the MVP in 2006, his first full season in the majors, and then from 2010-2016, he was literally worthless (more precisely, less than worthless), putting up -2.1 bWAR TOTAL (yes, that's a negative) for those 7 years, while being paid $154M. Wow. I don't remember any MVP falling off that massively that fast. Here's to hoping teams are smarter now and there won't be many more 'Ryan Howard contracts' in the future. Last edited by markinca; 05-08-2017 at 09:26 PM.

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LCM1223 Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 26,522 lucards1295	Yea it was tough to see his decline but even tougher knowing how much he was getting paid to decline. Should've hung em up after the last game of the season last year after the send off he got __________________ Total Topps BUNT Profits: $1606.19 KICK: $3243.82 HUDDLE: $300.22 STAR WARS CARD TRADER: $2899.57 STAR WARS FORCE COLLECTION: $1318.14 TWD: $94.09 SKATE: $697.03

05-08-2017, 09:14 PM	#3
gobullz1 Banned Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 3,079 gostevenjackson!	Brotha got paid

05-08-2017, 10:19 PM	#9
hofcollector2 Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 2,869	He should not have even won that MVP in 2006

05-08-2017, 10:34 PM	#10
HeritageKing Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 5,619	Brought a title to his team. What has Trout and Harper done? __________________ #2 Topps Heritage Autograph Collector

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natbornkiller Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: bkNY Posts: 22,804	watch gets a minor league deal with an al team and tears it up as a dh __________________ HAH HAH I STILL HAS THE RIGHT TO EDIT THIS !:eatit:

05-08-2017, 10:45 PM	#12
preakness Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: In Johnny Ryno's soul Posts: 21,077	I wanted that UD usa auto so Badly but kept pulling Mauer and others

05-08-2017, 10:45 PM	#13
centereacan06 Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Long Island Posts: 19,501 centereacan06 centereacan06	Wouldn't be surprised to see him end up in Asia.

05-08-2017, 10:52 PM	#17
Nk2014 Banned Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Chico,CA Posts: 623	I remember in 2007 and getting his autograph at a Giants game, was 11 at the time, was really nice, I was so excited. He was the biggest person I had ever seen it seemed like. Well he made his money it's a shame he fell off, baseball is like no other sport so mental

05-08-2017, 11:51 PM	#18
TWard Banned Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Memphis Posts: 9,780 tylersportsguy	His downslope was one of the quickest I've ever seen. It seemed like he was hitting 40 HRs one year and an MVP candidate, then the next year, he was essentially the worst player on his team. Regardless, he got paid an insane amount of money, so good for him, even though he was a detriment to the Phillies his last few years there. That 2003 Bowman's Best auto was insane, though. They blew up like crazy. I wanted one so badly but didn't give in, thankfully.

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Nyfancam01 Banned Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: North Carolina Posts: 25,890 Nyfancam01 Nyfancam01	Seems like his World Series loss to the Yankees was the end of "scary" ryan howard...

05-09-2017, 05:07 AM	#25
fulltritty Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: King George, VA Posts: 77,614	I'm waiting for the National to sign him up as a VIP signer to add to the already bad list of players they are giving us again this year. They'll hype is MVP award as if he was a good player.