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So I have gathered that Panini losses its license in 2026, but I can't seem to find out if it means their last product is 2024-25, 2025-26 or 2026-27. Anyone know the final season for licensed panini products?
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probably panini is in negotiations with fanatics to keep some flagships going.
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Do you mean that Panini will sub lease Fanatics license so that they can keep producing licensed flagship Panini products? Or do you mean Panini will lease their flagship products so Fanatics can continue producing those flagship Panini products under license?
Personally, I would like to see Panini and all their products cease to be produced and the earlier the better so that we can end this junk wax era. Sent from my SM-S911B using Tapatalk
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I imagine since they use the same printing facility they have figured out, on some level. to coexist. I think that having two different teams working independently and competitively is a model a lot of companies strive to emulate.
Not saying it is gonna happen, just that it would be beneficial to the hobby. There will not be less sets, though print runs may moderate. After all breakers need new and varied product on a weekly basis. They've got a nice hype flow going recently, from TC, to Deca, to Hoops Premium, to Phoenix, back to Mercury. More interesting than the old Chronicles to Recon to Optic to Draft Picks paradigm.
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Fanatics would like to devalue Panini as much as possible. There is no peaceful coexistence. Panini is just in the way at this point.
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I do think it's a little bit funny that Panini will get to milk the whole Cooper Flagg experience before they lose their license.
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I wouldn't assume that. I'd expect Fanatics to try and get Flagg as well as even the other top guys like Bailey, Harper, etc. to sign exclusives with them on autographs.
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Cooper flagg will be Panini's way of going out with a Bang!!
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As for printing both 2024-25 and 2025-26, Panini can do one of two things. They can still make 2024-25 full product lines and then do a separate 2025-26 until they lose their license. The NBA Draft is in July so Panini woud still have 3 months until Oct. The other way is if they don't want to make another whole set of products is to make XRC's with the 2025-26 draft for some of the products in 2024-25, like with Topps Finest in 2002. Back then Topps Finest had XRC's of Lebron and his class with Yao's class. |
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Topps has long been invested in sports beyond baseball. It has a licensing deal with Formula 1 and has agreements to produce collectibles with the NBA, from October 2025, and NFL, from April 2026. https://www.forbes.com/sites/robertk...-collectibles/ But they are still printing Wemby cards right now, so it's a few months from beginning 2024-25 production, I'd assume. How many XRC rookie cards can they cram in 3 months of backed-up production? I think Flagg will have a licensed Topps Chrome RC in early 2026. |
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Thanks for the link.
In terms of production, Panini could choose to shorten their production line up from 30 or so product down to 20 to accomodate that 3 month window to produce the 2025-26 products. Topps and Upper Deck was in this predicament back in 2009. Topps had to include Topps Chrome within their Topps product and not as a stand alone product in 2009. If the license changes in Oct 2025 then yeah Flagg will have Topps Chrome RC. We will have to see just how petty Panini actually is if they exclusively sign Flagg for their autos instead of Fanatics. |
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Yeah, there's no exclusivity for the draft just for the dates. So Panini could make a Hoops, Prizm, and whatever else they wanted as long as it got sold prior to the end date of their license expiration, and Topps could make Topps Chrome of Flagg.
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hope they create a true deca set of Prizm spanning all years, specific to the player's rookie season.
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It wasn't that long ago that there was the infamous dump of Jersey auto tag patch and logo that was 2009-10 Topps, SP game used, Exquisite, and Upper Deck.. all were released before October 1st if I recall correctly and none of the rookies had NBA jerseys which does not seem to slow down the value of these cards. Just be ready for Logomen numbered to 200 or something crazy like that based on all of the player-worn, event worn, Factory found jerseys.
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Depends on the viewpoint but I'd bet Panini would get more money from dumping excess in their own products than selling those items to Fanatics.
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I have seen one listing up for 2025-2026 NBA Hoops hobby boxes. Not a pre-sale up yet, but you can enter your email for updates.
Easily found if you google it. I know Panini has been so far behind for a while now, but one would think Hoops and/or Donruss would be achievable by the expiration (unless the contract spells out 2024-25 year cards as the end, but that those can be produced through October). I am not a huge fan of Panini - they are OK - but I would have loved to see Topps back in the game if it wasn’t simply a Fanatics label as it is today. |
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