Bowman Chrome Auto Price Multiplier?

[nadeauman33]

I know there's nothing set in stone on price multiplier for different color auto's but what are the common thoughts? I.E. a raw gold version of player A sold for $145 based of this what potential value would a purple BGS 9.5/10 or a red 9.5/10 equate to?

Any help, greatly appreciated.

Matt

[NeedChapmans]

Heh. You're too much!

I think the general one most people follow is ...

Base
Refactor 1.5(Base)
Blue 3(Base)
Gold 2(Blue)
Orange 1.5(Gold)
Purple 1.5(Orange)
Red 2(Purple)
Superfractor - Whatever the hell the crazies will pay.

[nadeauman33]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Heh. You're too much!

I think the general one most people follow is ...

Base
Refactor 1.5(Base)
Blue 3(Base)
Gold 2(Blue)
Orange 1.5(Gold)
Purple 1.5(Orange)
Red 2(Purple)
Superfractor - Whatever the hell the crazies will pay.

Not for who you think sir, I promise However you were apart of selling me the raw (now bgs 9.5/10) purple auto

So maybe $345-$375 on purple being a 9.5/10 and maybe $675-$700 on red 9.5/10......Big maybe's I know.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by nadeauman33

Not for who you think sir, I promise However you were apart of selling me the raw (now bgs 9.5/10) purple auto

Heh.

To answer your second question, a raw Gold worth $145 likely makes a raw Orange worth $225, which makes a raw Purple worth $350.

Gem that Purple, and you're around $500.

[nadeauman33]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Heh.

To answer your second question, a raw Gold worth $145 likely makes a raw Orange worth $225, which makes a raw Purple worth $350.

Gem that Purple, and you're around $500.

Thanks

[sjorgen5]

I roughly follow this:

Base: 1.0
Ref: 1.8-2.2
Blue: 4.0
Green: 4.5
Wave: 4.0-5.0
Gold: 8.0-10.0
Orange: 12.0-15.0
Purple: 18.0-22.5
Red: 35.0-50.0
Superfractor: ???

[jewcer2k5]

Originally Posted by sjorgen5

I roughly follow this:

Base: 1.0
Ref: 1.8-2.2
Blue: 4.0
Green: 4.5
Wave: 4.0-5.0
Gold: 8.0-10.0
Orange: 12.0-15.0
Purple: 18.0-22.5
Red: 35.0-50.0
Superfractor: ???

I follow something closer to this.

[dasiegel]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Heh. You're too much!

I think the general one most people follow is ...

Base
Refactor 1.5(Base)
Blue 3(Base)
Gold 2(Blue)
Orange 1.5(Gold)
Purple 1.5(Orange)
Red 2(Purple)
Superfractor - Whatever the hell the crazies will pay.

best part of this list is that its like F greens F blacks and F wave cards, lol. which i generally agree to.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by dasiegel

best part of this list is that its like F greens F blacks and F wave cards, lol. which i generally agree to.

Those things are impossible. Some players have them, most don't, some blacks are /99 while others are /35. Then you have Orange waves, purple sparkles, carbon junk whatever ...

Take me to a simpler time where Purple was the color people didn't value.

[sjorgen5]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Those things are impossible. Some players have them, most don't, some blacks are /99 while others are /35. Then you have Orange waves, purple sparkles, carbon junk whatever ...

Take me to a simpler time where Purple was the color people didn't value.

Haha, yes! I remember back in the day, when...

[MikeWilliamsFan]

For my 2013 Draft Crawfords its pretty much been

Base 1.0
Ref 1.5-2.0
Blue 4.0-4.5
Green 4.5-5.0
Waves 6.0
Gold 10.0
Orange 16.0
Purple 25.0
Red 50.0

[StlScott]

Are these for Raw or Gems?

[Rooftop]

Anyone care to update this list

[rwperu34]

Base, 1x
Refractor /499, 1.5x
Purple /250, 1.75x
Blue Wave /150, 2x
Blue /150, 3.5x
Green /99, 3x
Gold Wave /50, 5x
Gold /50, 8x
Orange Wave, 25, 8x
Orange /25, 12x
Red Wave /5, 20x
Red /5, 35x
Super /1, 100x

Anything Orange and under will have insane variance. So much so that I don't include them in my Price Index. From Gold /50 on up it's fairly stable.

I would treat these numbers as the mean they are regressing toward. Comps are stupid and sometimes a Blue /150 will sell for $200 and an Orange /25 will sell for $350. Then every orange that comes out after that for the next three months will be comped at $350. In that case, just buy the orange.

[pewe]

Originally Posted by rwperu34

Base, 1x
Refractor /499, 1.5x
Purple /250, 1.75x
Blue Wave /150, 2x
Blue /150, 3.5x
Green /99, 3x
Gold Wave /50, 5x
Gold /50, 8x
Orange Wave, 25, 8x
Orange /25, 12x
Red Wave /5, 20x
Red /5, 35x
Super /1, 100x

Anything Orange and under will have insane variance. So much so that I don't include them in my Price Index. From Gold /50 on up it's fairly stable.

I would treat these numbers as the mean they are regressing toward. Comps are stupid and sometimes a Blue /150 will sell for $200 and an Orange /25 will sell for $350. Then every orange that comes out after that for the next three months will be comped at $350. In that case, just buy the orange.

I’d add that in my experience team colors can make a bit of added bonus… maybe 0.5x


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[Rooftop]

What about shimmer /15

[rwperu34]

Originally Posted by Rooftop

What about shimmer /15

Probably 12x, although with something that rare it can get crazy. The typical rule for non traditional is it goes for the next traditional above. The issue is the demand is not great on that type of stuff. You're looking for The Whale. I'd probably buy at 6x and sell at 15x.

[jsatx]

Originally Posted by rwperu34

Base, 1x
Refractor /499, 1.5x
Purple /250, 1.75x
Blue Wave /150, 2x
Blue /150, 3.5x
Green /99, 3x
Gold Wave /50, 5x
Gold /50, 8x
Orange Wave, 25, 8x
Orange /25, 12x
Red Wave /5, 20x
Red /5, 35x
Super /1, 100x

Anything Orange and under will have insane variance. So much so that I don't include them in my Price Index. From Gold /50 on up it's fairly stable.

I would treat these numbers as the mean they are regressing toward. Comps are stupid and sometimes a Blue /150 will sell for $200 and an Orange /25 will sell for $350. Then every orange that comes out after that for the next three months will be comped at $350. In that case, just buy the orange.

I know you follow this better than I do, but I think a gold non-auto used to be about the value of a base auto, and you could back out the non-auto refractors from that. Do your numbers hold for non-autos if that is the case? A base auto goes for $50, so a gold non-auto /50 goes for $50. Does a Blue /150 non-auto then go for $22ish? Curious if you track this.

[rwperu34]

Originally Posted by jsatx

I know you follow this better than I do, but I think a gold non-auto used to be about the value of a base auto, and you could back out the non-auto refractors from that. Do your numbers hold for non-autos if that is the case? A base auto goes for $50, so a gold non-auto /50 goes for $50. Does a Blue /150 non-auto then go for $22ish? Curious if you track this.

I need to do more work on this, but for now I'd say no. It seems to me like the gold non-auto goes for more than the base auto at this point in time. That is for only guys I'm chasing and their cards come up for auction though. I haven't done a thorough investigation.

I do think once you have the price of a gold you can back it out.

One good way to check this would be 2021 Draft. Get a base auto price for a few non SP'd guys, then see what their non-auto color went for. Narrow it down to gold and blue if possible, then stretch it out from there if there's not enough volume.