Justin Herbert: Am I too late?

rgc73 · 03-19-2022, 06:22 AM

Hi, guys, I want to ask a simple question, and then I'll offer up an explanation. Am I too late to affordably collect Justin Herbert (rookies especially but not exclusively)? I don't necessarily mean this from an investment perspective in that I'm looking to flip him later on. I am a 100% scar tissue Chargers fan since 1981. Yeah, I'm that old suddenly.

I am not an auto guy, and I really don't care whether or not all of the cards are graded. I'm not anti, I can go graded or ungraded. 95% of my collection is vintage baseball, but I have always been a Chargers fan. I just haven't collected their cards much. Herbert and this crew gives me some hope for the first time in a long time.

I am also thinking about picking up cards of Keenan, Mike, Eck, Joey, and the rest of the crew...not necessarily rookies only. These guys will be easy enough I figure. I just wasn't sure about Herbert. Thanks in advance.

And please don't barrage me with a ton of stuff for sale. I'm still in the "thinking about it" phase.

Derekbauer · 03-19-2022, 07:01 AM

No there are a ton of low end rookie singles for Herbert if you are looking to build a collection and don’t care about investments.

If you want shiny and cool looking go Select or Mosaic. Then the usual absolute, donruss, chronicles, etc. will be the more traditional style.

Hellcat · 03-19-2022, 08:23 AM

He hasn’t won a playoff game yet and you ask if you’re too late?! Ha ha j/k I’m a big Herbert investor now’s a great time to scoop up some Herbert! For PC buy raw but if you plan to flip in 10+ years buy graded PSA cards.

matt roberson · 03-19-2022, 08:55 AM

Plenty of cheaper cards especially if your not a big auto guy. Herbert is expensive but there is plenty of room for growth on his lower end stuff.

I would suggest staying with rookies for the most part as they will maintain value a lot longer than other cards if you do ever want to sell and try and recoup some
Money.

hermanotarjeta · 03-19-2022, 12:42 PM

I would say you are fine. Once the better football stuff started to come out his rookie year/after the 2020 season he was already pretty expensive, so everyone bought in at high prices.

See what burrow cards did during the playoffs? As high as Herbert is now, if he can win a super bowl in the next few years his prices can still double and reach mahomes level, and the ceiling is Brady level, so you will be fine.

Hellcat · 03-19-2022, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

I would say you are fine. Once the better football stuff started to come out his rookie year/after the 2020 season he was already pretty expensive, so everyone bought in at high prices.

See what burrow cards did during the playoffs? As high as Herbert is now, if he can win a super bowl in the next few years his prices can still double and reach mahomes level, and the ceiling is Brady level, so you will be fine.

Nobody will be at Brady’s level in our lifetime.

boxbuster7 · 03-19-2022, 01:19 PM

I wouldn't say you're too late, but there are better players to invest in then JH IMO

Braswell10 · 03-19-2022, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by boxbuster7

I wouldn't say you're too late, but there are better players to invest in then JH IMO

Like??

nabzy28 · 03-19-2022, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Hellcat

Nobody will be at Brady’s level in our lifetime.

Especially not any of these guys. As everybody keeps posting - the AFC is stacked. As no one has noticed, that's not a good thing for any of these guys. Only 1 of them gets to go to the Super Bowl every year and, even then, they've got to hope that the top NFC team isn't just flat out better - making it even worse for them all. Reality. Just sayin'.

djdevon · 03-19-2022, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Braswell10

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Josh Allen. He's actually better than Herbert

ninjacookies · 03-20-2022, 12:36 AM

At these prices, I'd honestly rather invest in Burrow.

And that's not something I would have said last season.

splitrockgamer · 03-21-2022, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ninjacookies

At these prices, I'd honestly rather invest in Burrow.

And that's not something I would have said last season.

right on both accounts.

f2tornado · 03-21-2022, 12:17 PM

If you think he's getting to the Super Bowl then there's room to grow. Otherwise, his cards might gradually settle into the Derek Carr realm.

boxbuster7 · 03-21-2022, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Braswell10

Like??

Already been mentioned but Josh Allen. You have to figure at some point he will get past Mahomes in the playoffs and his cards will go nuts. He could also legit win mvp next year.

Lamar jackson A more high risk high reward play. People are way down on him, so there is more value when buying his cards.

heck even trevor lawrence. Going to have a ton of hype going into next year. Pretty much a sure bet his low end cards will jump 50% by the time the preseason starts. Not happening with herbert.

Whodatiz · 03-21-2022, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by boxbuster7

Already been mentioned but Josh Allen. You have to figure at some point he will get past Mahomes in the playoffs and his cards will go nuts. He could also legit win mvp next year.

Lamar jackson A more high risk high reward play. People are way down on him, so there is more value when buying his cards.

heck even trevor lawrence. Going to have a ton of hype going into next year. Pretty much a sure bet his low end cards will jump 50% by the time the preseason starts. Not happening with herbert.

I think it's safe to say the LamJack ship has sailed.

boxbuster7 · 03-21-2022, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Whodatiz

I think it's safe to say the LamJack ship has sailed.

It may have. No doubt. But He is only 25. He won a wildcard game in the playoffs in 2020. Unanimous mvp 2019. Health is an issue, but he has had moments.

Look what happened with Darnold cards after the panthers went 3-0. I'm sure people gave up on him way before that panthers trade. Just that trade boosted his cards.

I'm more of a swing trader, so not sure that is what OP is looking for. But just some perspective. The safest play is probably a QB from the 2021 class.

Braswell10 · 03-21-2022, 12:48 PM

I dont understand the Josh Allen stuff. Herbert is light years better than Allen was his first two seasons, plus Allen is two years older than Herbert.

I would also argue the Chargers have a better team than the Bills going into this season.

nera20 · 03-21-2022, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Braswell10

I dont understand the Josh Allen stuff. Herbert is light years better than Allen was his first two seasons, plus Allen is two years older than Herbert.

I would also argue the Chargers have a better team than the Bills going into this season.

if i personally had anything of josh allen which i don't i would trade all of it for herberts

Whodatiz · 03-21-2022, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by boxbuster7

It may have. No doubt. But He is only 25. He won a wildcard game in the playoffs in 2020. Unanimous mvp 2019. Health is an issue, but he has had moments.

Look what happened with Darnold cards after the panthers went 3-0. I'm sure people gave up on him way before that panthers trade. Just that trade boosted his cards.

I'm more of a swing trader, so not sure that is what OP is looking for. But just some perspective. The safest play is probably a QB from the 2021 class.

It's not just his health. His overall play has regressed. His mechanics. His decision making.

As you saw from this past season, he needs a very strong and viable run game (more so than a lot of QBs) in order to flourish.

Defenses are not scared of Lamar throwing the ball.

boxbuster7 · 03-21-2022, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by nera20

if i personally had anything of josh allen which i don't i would trade all of it for herberts

I wouldn't. The chargers as a franchise have shown that they can't get it done. while it is not Herberts fault really, his hobby ceiling is only so high if they don't make the playoffs. The Bills are a lot closer of a team to winning big games.

21stguy · 03-21-2022, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Braswell10

I dont understand the Josh Allen stuff. Herbert is light years better than Allen was his first two seasons, plus Allen is two years older than Herbert.

I would also argue the Chargers have a better team than the Bills going into this season.

People will say Chargers gonna charger, but personally I got the same view on this topic as you.

And to those saying the Bills get it done, how many SBs again did they win?

boxbuster7 · 03-21-2022, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 21stguy

People will say Chargers gonna charger, but personally I got the same view on this topic as you.

And to those saying the Bills get it done, how many SBs again did they win?

Exactly the reason I think they will get it done in the next few years. Law of averages.

TheFrenzy · 03-21-2022, 09:34 PM

There’s still time to collect Josh Rosen.

jplarson · 03-21-2022, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TheFrenzy

There’s still time to collect Josh Rosen.

<3 this

barberromo2008 · 03-22-2022, 09:26 AM

I personally love Herbert and his potential. His RC autos are not extremely expensive but I would find the one brand that you would enjoy collecting and buying at least 1 RC Auto because I believe in the talent.

Like so many others have said his rookies and inserts that are aren't rookies are reasonable. I also believe that Herbert will have more coverage through the coming years because he will be playing against Mahomes who is this generations Dan Marino but better.

03-19-2022, 06:22 AM	#1
rgc73 Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Posts: 421	Justin Herbert: Am I too late? Hi, guys, I want to ask a simple question, and then I'll offer up an explanation. Am I too late to affordably collect Justin Herbert (rookies especially but not exclusively)? I don't necessarily mean this from an investment perspective in that I'm looking to flip him later on. I am a 100% scar tissue Chargers fan since 1981. Yeah, I'm that old suddenly. I am not an auto guy, and I really don't care whether or not all of the cards are graded. I'm not anti, I can go graded or ungraded. 95% of my collection is vintage baseball, but I have always been a Chargers fan. I just haven't collected their cards much. Herbert and this crew gives me some hope for the first time in a long time. I am also thinking about picking up cards of Keenan, Mike, Eck, Joey, and the rest of the crew...not necessarily rookies only. These guys will be easy enough I figure. I just wasn't sure about Herbert. Thanks in advance. And please don't barrage me with a ton of stuff for sale. I'm still in the "thinking about it" phase.

03-19-2022, 07:01 AM	#2
Derekbauer Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Harrisburg, PA Posts: 3,959 dandcsportscards12 dandcsportscards12	No there are a ton of low end rookie singles for Herbert if you are looking to build a collection and don’t care about investments. If you want shiny and cool looking go Select or Mosaic. Then the usual absolute, donruss, chronicles, etc. will be the more traditional style. __________________ -2012 Prizm Football Golds Chaser (Vets only) -FOUND! ‘03 Amani Toomer Chrome Gold Xfractor /101

03-19-2022, 08:55 AM	#4
matt roberson Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: wisconsin Posts: 4,166 robeysresale	Plenty of cheaper cards especially if your not a big auto guy. Herbert is expensive but there is plenty of room for growth on his lower end stuff. I would suggest staying with rookies for the most part as they will maintain value a lot longer than other cards if you do ever want to sell and try and recoup some Money. __________________ PCing....Rice,AR12,Giannis,RW3,Packers/Badgers and shiny stuff.

03-19-2022, 01:19 PM	#7
boxbuster7 Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 12,835 boxbuster777	I wouldn't say you're too late, but there are better players to invest in then JH IMO __________________ Psa 9 > psa 10

03-20-2022, 12:36 AM	#11
ninjacookies Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: All the girls see the (boi)/ Look at his flips / Look at his kards / All they say is (oh boi). Posts: 57,063	At these prices, I'd honestly rather invest in Burrow. And that's not something I would have said last season. __________________ #5 world ranked Ledell Eackles superclection as recognized by Tuff Stuff junior managing editor, Barry McCaulkinner. Somethin' like a cross between Teddy Aguhob and Kaboom Mystery Packs. I got that Givenchy denim flow.

03-19-2022, 08:23 AM	#3
Hellcat Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Posts: 2,428	He hasn’t won a playoff game yet and you ask if you’re too late?! Ha ha j/k I’m a big Herbert investor now’s a great time to scoop up some Herbert! For PC buy raw but if you plan to flip in 10+ years buy graded PSA cards.

03-19-2022, 12:42 PM	#5
hermanotarjeta Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 22,118	I would say you are fine. Once the better football stuff started to come out his rookie year/after the 2020 season he was already pretty expensive, so everyone bought in at high prices. See what burrow cards did during the playoffs? As high as Herbert is now, if he can win a super bowl in the next few years his prices can still double and reach mahomes level, and the ceiling is Brady level, so you will be fine.

03-21-2022, 12:17 PM	#13
f2tornado Member Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: Bismarck, ND Posts: 2,367 f2tornado f2tornado	If you think he's getting to the Super Bowl then there's room to grow. Otherwise, his cards might gradually settle into the Derek Carr realm.

03-21-2022, 12:48 PM	#17
Braswell10 Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Florida Posts: 9,477 o7star	I dont understand the Josh Allen stuff. Herbert is light years better than Allen was his first two seasons, plus Allen is two years older than Herbert. I would also argue the Chargers have a better team than the Bills going into this season.

03-21-2022, 09:34 PM	#23
TheFrenzy Banned Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Texan in AZ Posts: 44,115	There’s still time to collect Josh Rosen.

03-22-2022, 09:26 AM	#25
barberromo2008 Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Fresno, CA Posts: 13,982 sportscloset12	I personally love Herbert and his potential. His RC autos are not extremely expensive but I would find the one brand that you would enjoy collecting and buying at least 1 RC Auto because I believe in the talent. Like so many others have said his rookies and inserts that are aren't rookies are reasonable. I also believe that Herbert will have more coverage through the coming years because he will be playing against Mahomes who is this generations Dan Marino but better. __________________ Collecting Dallas Cowboys,NFC East Players,Drew Brees, Tom Brady and Peyton Manning.