Lawsuit over Redemptions against Panini

[bryanscs]

Here is the story:

https://www.sportscollectorsdaily.co...BQoZaOxlu8fk38

[majestik101]

Lawsuit is against Panini, not Topps.

Also this collector has no shot of winning the lawsuit.

[bryanscs]

*Against Panini

[Lonewolf]

Topps is guilty by association as well.

[anusinha]

Interesting. He filed vs Panini only and not Topps. Panini is much better about redemptions than Topps is.

[rambel]

I'm assuming he filed it against Panini because both he and Panini are in Dallas

[PoPCulture]

Cool! It looks like my 5 year old pending redemption puts me right in the thick of this thing. For damages, I’m going to ask to be First In Line for all First Off The Line. And a pony.

[Chief286]

Originally Posted by majestik101

Also this collector has no shot of winning the lawsuit.

I disagree. Not all claims will qualify for class treatment. Some claims will fail. But this is a legitimate, well-structured suit.

The article does an OK,but not great, job of summarizing the actual complaint. Although some claims are broader and potentially more significant, it's paragraphs 10-11 that make me shrug and wonder if Lionel Hutz is general counsel for Panini.

Paragraphs 10-11

In fact, Panini’s failure to honor its redemption process has been reported to the Better Business Bureau (hereinafter “BBB”) on multiple occasions and some 185 complaints have been filed. BBB has given Panini an F rating on its scorecard.


It is nearly impossible to contact Panini through any means, including telephone, emails, posts, etc. This has also been noted on BBB’s website, which reads:
“On November 22, 2017, BBB notified Panini America, Inc. that BBB has identified concerning patterns in consumer complaints alleging Panini America, Inc. fails to honor the promised fulfillment and delivery of products after receiving redemption cards from its customers. Consumers also allege Panini America, Inc. fails to communicate redemption order status, and fails to respond to emails and telephone calls.
BBB requested Panini America, Inc.’s voluntary cooperation in eliminating the identified patterns in consumer complaints.

As of December 27, 2017, Panini America, Inc. has failed to respond.”
(See BBB webpage located at http://www.bbb.org/dallas/business-r...ts-and-Actions, a copy of which is attached hereto as Exhibit “C”).
12.

[salthill]

Someone finally followed through so we have a real lawsuit not just a threatened lawsuite. Will be very interested in Panini’s response to this.
Any lawyers know if this type of suit can be settled by the plaintiff before other class members get involved? Can imagine Panini would prefer to buy him off with a couple of high value autos.

[Triple B]

Originally Posted by salthill

Someone finally followed through so we have a real lawsuit not just a threatened lawsuite. Will be very interested in Panini’s response to this.
Any lawyers know if this type of suit can be settled by the plaintiff before other class members get involved? Can imagine Panini would prefer to buy him off with a couple of high value autos.

He'll be the hero of the hobby if he follows through to the end.

[hairysasquatch]

Hilarious! Slay the Poopnini Dragon!

[Links242]

Originally Posted by salthill

Someone finally followed through so we have a real lawsuit not just a threatened lawsuite. Will be very interested in Panini’s response to this.
Any lawyers know if this type of suit can be settled by the plaintiff before other class members get involved? Can imagine Panini would prefer to buy him off with a couple of high value autos.

I am absolutely rooting for him. As should all other collectors even "flippers".

[Soxfanguy]

Originally Posted by rambel

I'm assuming he filed it against Panini because both he and Panini are in Dallas

Smart. Before the Supreme Court changed laws about patent lawsuits, everyone would file in this one Texas county, because like 80% of the patent lawsuits got accepted to go to trial vs 20% in other county's.

[dcarado]

So where's this headed? Anybody think we will begin to see Points only and no redemptions?

[Soxfanguy]

Originally Posted by dcarado

So where's this headed?

The Supreme Court

[lauriontj]

One problem with the lawsuit: they spelled it panini and not poopini

Other than that, It looks good to me...

[Sushiyoshi]

Originally Posted by dcarado

So where's this headed? Anybody think we will begin to see Points only and no redemptions?

That would suck. Points are worse than redemptions.

[anusinha]

Originally Posted by Sushiyoshi

That would suck. Points are worse than redemptions.

ill take points that dont expire over redemptions that do. Not sure what to do about the super rare stuff though. Or what happens if the hottest rookie doesnt sign the cards in time.

[theflushingmets]

I have an Adrian Rondon Elite Green Auto still pending from 2014. Haven’t bothered to ask for a replacement because it hasn’t had value in years.

[Sushiyoshi]

Originally Posted by anusinha

ill take points that dont expire over redemptions that do. Not sure what to do about the super rare stuff though. Or what happens if the hottest rookie doesnt sign the cards in time.

Panini accepts expired redemptions.

Topps does not.

UD supposedly accepts them for one year past expirations.

[hche]

1 thing is Panini asks us how long we want to wait but they never send us anything after the waiting period unless we ask for it.

[AnthonyCorona]

A member should have a username Death2redemptions IMHO


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[Marc22a]

Originally Posted by salthill

Someone finally followed through so we have a real lawsuit not just a threatened lawsuite. Will be very interested in Panini’s response to this.
Any lawyers know if this type of suit can be settled by the plaintiff before other class members get involved? Can imagine Panini would prefer to buy him off with a couple of high value autos.

If he wants to settle his own claims, he can do it without affecting anyone else. But if/when a class is eventually certified, that's no longer possible. The court would then have to hold hearings to determine if the proposed settlement is fair, adequate and reasonable, and not based on collusion, for it to be binding on the class members.

*** No legal advice has been provided herein. Consult your own attorney if you feel like you've been screwed by Panini ***

[Chief286]

Originally Posted by Soxfanguy

Smart. Before the Supreme Court changed laws about patent lawsuits, everyone would file in this one Texas county, because like 80% of the patent lawsuits got accepted to go to trial vs 20% in other county's.

This isn't a patent case; the TC Heartland decision is irrelevant to plaintiffs' venue choice.

Originally Posted by Soxfanguy

The Supreme Court

This lawsuit depends upon State law. Unless the case turns on some federal procedural or jurisdictional issue, the SCOTUS will not (and cannot) hear this case.

[psd2k10]

glad to see this! im still waiting for my hunter henry patch auto rc /20 from 2016!! when i emailed them, they NEVER respond! pathetic!