Is Robbie Cano a HOFer?

T_Hamilton · 07-12-2017, 10:27 AM

Debate.

Jemp1983 · 07-12-2017, 10:35 AM

He could very easily end up with 400 HRs and 3000 hits with a career .300 avg by the time hes done, so id say if he stays at the pace hes on than yeah

jstasyk1121 · 07-12-2017, 11:13 AM

i think he is already a HOF player right now.

here are his standings among 2b as of right now....

Runs- 1112...27th all time among 2B
Hits- 2297...17th all time among 2B
Doubles- 493...7th all time among 2B
HR- 295...3rd all time among 2B---Kent record at 377 he is prob a lock to pass
RBI- 1146...11th all time among 2B
BA- .305...top 15 or so...coup guys who barely have at bats listed
SLG- .497...3rd all time among 2B behind Kent(.500) and Hornsby(.577)
OPS- 8th...but like .04 away from 5th spot...so top 10 safe bet...
WAR- 64.3...16th all time among 2B...5th place is around 80...so he could get up around that range...

2x GG
5x SS(2nd most ever by 2B)
8x AS
6 top 10 MVP finishes...4 in the top 5 (no wins)
1x AS MVP
1 Ring-bad postseason numbers though so that wont really be a talking point.

i know this isnt a "stat" or anything...but from 07-16 he only missed 26 games...that is impressive and important knowing you could plug an elite player in the middle of your lineup every day...played 156+ 10str yrs...

he is 33...has SIX years left on his current contract...isnt really slowing down as of now...i know that can come at any time...

but his counting stats most likely will end up having him as probably the 2nd best offensive 2B ever is my guess, seems like he could make a run to get around top 3 in Runs scored...top 3 in hits, top 3 in doubles, 1st in homers and rbi among 2B...

Skipscards · 07-12-2017, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by jstasyk1121

i think he is already a HOF player right now.

here are his standings among 2b as of right now....

Runs- 1112...27th all time among 2B
Hits- 2297...17th all time among 2B
Doubles- 493...7th all time among 2B
HR- 295...3rd all time among 2B---Kent record at 377 he is prob a lock to pass
RBI- 1146...11th all time among 2B
BA- .305...top 15 or so...coup guys who barely have at bats listed
SLG- .497...3rd all time among 2B behind Kent(.500) and Hornsby(.577)
OPS- 8th...but like .04 away from 5th spot...so top 10 safe bet...
WAR- 64.3...16th all time among 2B...5th place is around 80...so he could get up around that range...

2x GG
5x SS(2nd most ever by 2B)
8x AS
6 top 10 MVP finishes...4 in the top 5 (no wins)
1x AS MVP
1 Ring-bad postseason numbers though so that wont really be a talking point.

i know this isnt a "stat" or anything...but from 07-16 he only missed 26 games...that is impressive and important knowing you could plug an elite player in the middle of your lineup every day...played 156+ 10str yrs...

he is 33...has SIX years left on his current contract...isnt really slowing down as of now...i know that can come at any time...

but his counting stats most likely will end up having him as probably the 2nd best offensive 2B ever is my guess, seems like he could make a run to get around top 3 in Runs scored...top 3 in hits, top 3 in doubles, 1st in homers and rbi among 2B...

I agree with a lot of this. He's definitely on track. Even if he retired today he'd probably eventually get in.

green4407 · 07-12-2017, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Skipscards

I agree with a lot of this. He's definitely on track. Even if he retired today he'd probably eventually get in.

I agree with you two, he's already in or close. He's not slowing down, and even if he does another 4-5 years of average production and he's in easily.

rats60 · 07-12-2017, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jstasyk1121

i think he is already a HOF player right now.

here are his standings among 2b as of right now....

Runs- 1112...27th all time among 2B
Hits- 2297...17th all time among 2B
Doubles- 493...7th all time among 2B
HR- 295...3rd all time among 2B---Kent record at 377 he is prob a lock to pass
RBI- 1146...11th all time among 2B
BA- .305...top 15 or so...coup guys who barely have at bats listed
SLG- .497...3rd all time among 2B behind Kent(.500) and Hornsby(.577)
OPS- 8th...but like .04 away from 5th spot...so top 10 safe bet...
WAR- 64.3...16th all time among 2B...5th place is around 80...so he could get up around that range...

2x GG
5x SS(2nd most ever by 2B)
8x AS
6 top 10 MVP finishes...4 in the top 5 (no wins)
1x AS MVP
1 Ring-bad postseason numbers though so that wont really be a talking point.

i know this isnt a "stat" or anything...but from 07-16 he only missed 26 games...that is impressive and important knowing you could plug an elite player in the middle of your lineup every day...played 156+ 10str yrs...

he is 33...has SIX years left on his current contract...isnt really slowing down as of now...i know that can come at any time...

but his counting stats most likely will end up having him as probably the 2nd best offensive 2B ever is my guess, seems like he could make a run to get around top 3 in Runs scored...top 3 in hits, top 3 in doubles, 1st in homers and rbi among 2B...

He is behind Kent in everything but Average and WAR. I wouldn't say he is on now. I do expect him to continue to play at a high level and make the Hof. As you said, he is only 33 and should have a lot of production left. If he winds up where you project him, he will be a 1st ballot Hofer.

jstasyk1121 · 07-12-2017, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by rats60

He is behind Kent in everything but Average and WAR. I wouldn't say he is on now. I do expect him to continue to play at a high level and make the Hof. As you said, he is only 33 and should have a lot of production left. If he winds up where you project him, he will be a 1st ballot Hofer.

yea he is behind him but kent had 4 more years and the gaps arent that wide really...and cano started 2yrs younger...so i think cano ends up blasting past him in most numbers...

Runs...Kent by about 200...cano should pass him by like end 2019
Hits...Kent by 160 only...will pass him by this time next year and could end up almost 1000 ahead really...
Doubles...Kent by about 60...will pass him by mid 2019...and end up quite a bit ahead...
HRs...Kent by 80...Cano will pass him barring health...2-3 yrs...could put a decent gap by time he retires...and will hold record
RBIs...Kent by about 375(is 3rd all time)...cano should also end up with this record
Slashlines...pretty similar currently..id say they end up pretty similar as well...

Awards:
Kent: 5x AS, 4x SS, 1x MVP(big bump for him)...0x GG....0x Rings(but better in postseason)

Cano: 8x AS, 5x SS, 0x MVP...2x GG, 1x Ring

WAR- Kent ended at 55.2(19th among 2B)....Cano at 64.3 and counting...so that gap is gonna end being huge!...prob end up with 50% more WAR (around 80)

rman112 · 07-12-2017, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jstasyk1121

yea he is behind him but kent had 4 more years and the gaps arent that wide really...and cano started 2yrs younger...so i think cano ends up blasting past him in most numbers...

Runs...Kent by about 200...cano should pass him by like end 2019
Hits...Kent by 160 only...will pass him by this time next year and could end up almost 1000 ahead really...
Doubles...Kent by about 60...will pass him by mid 2019...and end up quite a bit ahead...
HRs...Kent by 80...Cano will pass him barring health...2-3 yrs...could put a decent gap by time he retires...and will hold record
RBIs...Kent by about 375(is 3rd all time)...cano should also end up with this record
Slashlines...pretty similar currently..id say they end up pretty similar as well...

Awards:
Kent: 5x AS, 4x SS, 1x MVP(big bump for him)...0x GG....0x Rings(but better in postseason)

Cano: 8x AS, 5x SS, 0x MVP...2x GG, 1x Ring

WAR- Kent ended at 55.2(19th among 2B)....Cano at 64.3 and counting...so that gap is gonna end being huge!...prob end up with 50% more WAR (around 80)

Cano's also ten times the defender.

He'd have to hit .220 for the rest of his career to not get in. Even then, he'd probably get in.

Fun player to watch in NY. Now the Yankees have a new guy to get pissed at about jogging to first.. Gary Sanchez!

texmcpherson · 07-12-2017, 10:37 AM

Hall of very good

tkraft24 · 07-12-2017, 10:40 AM

Funny, I was just thinking about this last night and absolutely think he'll end up in Cooperstown.

bronxbomber33 · 07-12-2017, 10:41 AM

Just had this conversation with a friend last night. I believe he is a Hall of Famer. His career is not over and he has a ring, 8x all star, almost 2300 hits, almost 300 hr's, almost 500 doubles and a .300+ career average.

lemongoat1134 · 07-12-2017, 10:48 AM

He'll retire with over 3,000 hits and 400 HR's and maybe top 10 WAR for second baseman all time. I think he should easily make it.

Ray27Ray52 · 07-12-2017, 10:50 AM

If he continues on his current path with another 4 or 5 solid years of production he is a no doubt HOF'er.

texmcpherson · 07-12-2017, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Ray27Ray52

If he continues on his current path with another 4 or 5 solid years of production he is a no doubt HOF'er.

In all seriousness what would you constitute as solid production? I'm just account for regress, realistically he's 34 now and 4-5 years would be his age 35-39 seasons. I mean look at Pujols, he's a career .305 hitter. Would you expect him to sustain that through regress? I think he'll end strong, maybe .280ish. And put up 3,000 hits and 1,500 RBI potentially barring injury.

Centauri3 · 07-12-2017, 11:12 AM

100% in. The only thing holding him back is playing in the isolation of the pacific northwest. Stats are a slam dunk.

Ray27Ray52 · 07-12-2017, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by texmcpherson

In all seriousness what would you constitute as solid production? I'm just account for regress, realistically he's 34 now and 4-5 years would be his age 35-39 seasons. I mean look at Pujols, he's a career .305 hitter. Would you expect him to sustain that through regress? I think he'll end strong, maybe .280ish. And put up 3,000 hits and 1,500 RBI potentially barring injury.

He is a career .305 hitter so if he were to end at .280 that is some serious regression.

But he is well on pace for 400 and 3000 as others have said. He is a slam dunk if and when he hits those benchmarks.

But to answer your question I think he is a Hall of Famer already. Anything else he does just pads the resume.

88horsepower · 07-12-2017, 11:47 AM

It's so funny to me how the Yankees used to be called "Murderer's Row & Cano" when he was just starting out. Now, he's turning out to be one of the best players from that team.

fulltritty · 07-12-2017, 11:51 AM

I think he will make it into the HOF. I also wish the Yankees had paid him the outrageous money he wanted instead of wasting it on Ellsbury and Beltran.

Skybox · 07-12-2017, 12:08 PM

If no injuries & he gets to 3,000 then definitely ... and he's probably in with career now & a couple more average seasons

no10pin · 07-12-2017, 12:11 PM

Definitely on pace with even a couple more decent seasons. If he retired today, he's a borderline case IMO, although I think he'd eventually make it.

3 or 4 more good seasons and he's a 1st ballot slam dunk.

seabass97166 · 07-12-2017, 12:11 PM

Yes no question

BGT Masters · 07-12-2017, 12:16 PM

Yes. One of the better hitting second baseman of all time at this moment, he's got another 2-3 quality years in him. Should be a shoe in unless he falls off a cliff.

griffan15 · 07-12-2017, 12:19 PM

He is in.

awz50 · 07-12-2017, 12:21 PM

Yes he is in.

The brother is very underrated

mfw13 · 07-12-2017, 12:48 PM

Cano > Biggio

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no10pin Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 16,840 no10pin no10pin	Definitely on pace with even a couple more decent seasons. If he retired today, he's a borderline case IMO, although I think he'd eventually make it. 3 or 4 more good seasons and he's a 1st ballot slam dunk. __________________ Always looking for more George Brett stuff. Need more rookies, low numbered inserts/parallels and on-card autos (no Panini). Last edited by no10pin; 07-12-2017 at 12:14 PM. Reason: grammar and stuff

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Jemp1983 Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Posts: 119	He could very easily end up with 400 HRs and 3000 hits with a career .300 avg by the time hes done, so id say if he stays at the pace hes on than yeah

07-12-2017, 11:13 AM	#3
jstasyk1121 Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Michigan Posts: 5,399 jbstasyk1121	i think he is already a HOF player right now. here are his standings among 2b as of right now.... Runs- 1112...27th all time among 2B Hits- 2297...17th all time among 2B Doubles- 493...7th all time among 2B HR- 295...3rd all time among 2B---Kent record at 377 he is prob a lock to pass RBI- 1146...11th all time among 2B BA- .305...top 15 or so...coup guys who barely have at bats listed SLG- .497...3rd all time among 2B behind Kent(.500) and Hornsby(.577) OPS- 8th...but like .04 away from 5th spot...so top 10 safe bet... WAR- 64.3...16th all time among 2B...5th place is around 80...so he could get up around that range... 2x GG 5x SS(2nd most ever by 2B) 8x AS 6 top 10 MVP finishes...4 in the top 5 (no wins) 1x AS MVP 1 Ring-bad postseason numbers though so that wont really be a talking point. i know this isnt a "stat" or anything...but from 07-16 he only missed 26 games...that is impressive and important knowing you could plug an elite player in the middle of your lineup every day...played 156+ 10str yrs... he is 33...has SIX years left on his current contract...isnt really slowing down as of now...i know that can come at any time... but his counting stats most likely will end up having him as probably the 2nd best offensive 2B ever is my guess, seems like he could make a run to get around top 3 in Runs scored...top 3 in hits, top 3 in doubles, 1st in homers and rbi among 2B...

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bronxbomber33 Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 4,306 id_gas_memorabilia	Just had this conversation with a friend last night. I believe he is a Hall of Famer. His career is not over and he has a ring, 8x all star, almost 2300 hits, almost 300 hr's, almost 500 doubles and a .300+ career average.

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lemongoat1134 Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Bay Area Posts: 546	He'll retire with over 3,000 hits and 400 HR's and maybe top 10 WAR for second baseman all time. I think he should easily make it.

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Ray27Ray52 Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Baltimore, Maryland Posts: 22,676	If he continues on his current path with another 4 or 5 solid years of production he is a no doubt HOF'er.

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Centauri3 Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 280 b-mor	100% in. The only thing holding him back is playing in the isolation of the pacific northwest. Stats are a slam dunk.

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88horsepower Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Somewhere In Time Posts: 23,650	It's so funny to me how the Yankees used to be called "Murderer's Row & Cano" when he was just starting out. Now, he's turning out to be one of the best players from that team.

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fulltritty Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: King George, VA Posts: 77,627	I think he will make it into the HOF. I also wish the Yankees had paid him the outrageous money he wanted instead of wasting it on Ellsbury and Beltran.

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Skybox Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Alabama Posts: 908 captainshank	If no injuries & he gets to 3,000 then definitely ... and he's probably in with career now & a couple more average seasons

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seabass97166 Banned Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 10,685	Yes no question

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BGT Masters Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Wellsville, New York Posts: 10,184	Yes. One of the better hitting second baseman of all time at this moment, he's got another 2-3 quality years in him. Should be a shoe in unless he falls off a cliff.

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griffan15 Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Sterling, VA Posts: 7,528 griffan15	He is in.

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mfw13 Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 17,330	Cano > Biggio