LeBron Exquisite /99 - altered & damaged

[cardsdownunder]

Mates, i recently came across some troubling news for some LeBron Exquisite rookies /99. I know many collectors are not aware or up-to-date on the scambags of the hobby, so please forward these news for those looking to buy LeBron exquisite rookies!!

The first attachment is 87/99. It was owned by a collector for a long time then sold in March 2013 to someone on the forums. It reappeared with much nicer edges!!! See the damage on the black border on the left/right ungraded, then nice and clean on the BGS 9 grade.

THere is also an issue with this PSA 8 LeBron 40/99.

https://images.psacard.com/s3/cu-psa...745.jpg?h=1000

Look at the left on the black under the UD logo --- you can see a black marker line. I saw this card around 10 years ago in person and it had a large white scratch on it in that same place --- now it is gone.... I have a picture of it ungraded but cannot upload for some reason --- will keep attempting.


While I talk about this card I also want to remind people about old scambags --- lebron 53/99 was trimmed -- see old owner talk about it here - http://www.hobbykings.com/forum/view...a213c85d2d23ad

There is also some that are formerly grade BGS 9 but were later damaged. Card # 74/99 and 64/99 are examples of such.

https://www.blowoutforums.com/attach...3&d=1362028128

^^ see bottom left edge


Then there is #42/99 which I can't find old BO thread on, but was owned by a BO member. The patch window has slits on the top left and bottom right --- was graded Authentic by BGS. Haven't seen this one around in a while --- had a weak 3color patch and always suspected a donkey to try to fake the patch! Hope this isn't the sad case.

Also wanted to say card #63/99 was a one-color patch --- hopefully no one altered it. Just FYI/PSA that it was a one-clr -- I have no knowledge of it being faked... yet...

I don't have photograph proof of trimming for #75/99 and #61/99, but i can tell those are trimmed and know BGS graded them as altered... Public Service Announcement in case they are for sale or PSA grades them!!!

There is only one on ebay i think that is #50/99. This one has yellowing on parts of the card and faded auto --- but is not really advertised as such.....

Be better card community and help stop the scambags!!

[UltimateDeron]

I'd really like to see a video of a card of that magnitude getting trimmed. I don't see how they don't mess up or damage the card more.

[bdrr]

Originally Posted by UltimateDeron

I'd really like to see a video of a card of that magnitude getting trimmed. I don't see how they don't mess up or damage the card more.

It's like the Wagner story. The grading companies know the card is trimmed, but because of the iconic nature of the item they pass it anyway.

[DajuanWagner]

Originally Posted by bdrr

It's like the Wagner story. The grading companies know the card is trimmed, but because of the iconic nature of the item they pass it anyway.

I disagree with this...……..

[minnesotachill]

The BGS 9 Lebron looks like it was part of a 4-card BGS sub in 2015


1. Lebron Exquisite
2. Bill Russell Exquisite Flashback https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...ack-1873119705
3. Kareem Exquisite Flashback - graded BGS 9, then was later bumped to a 9.5
(google search shows it was for sale on buynicecards)
4. Tiger Exquisite

[Bowman1951]

Originally Posted by UltimateDeron

I'd really like to see a video of a card of that magnitude getting trimmed. I don't see how they don't mess up or damage the card more.

It didn't look obvious when you asked the question, but see evidence of the machine likely being used here...

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showpo...7&postcount=72

[DevinKurant]

Great post OP!!!!!!!!!

You know there is a Lebron rpa tracker on buynicecards.com

One of the other BO members recently helped him improve his website and it’s interface is top notch. Check it out.

It appears that the owner, Eric Bitz, actually owns number 87/99 so he probably won’t appreciate this post, lol. I’m not insinuating that he trimmed it; perhaps he bought it trimmed. Or perhaps it’s an rpa miracle and the card regenerated its edges. Kind of like how Lebron regenerates every team he goes to. ⤵️

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by DevinKurant

Great post OP!!!!!!!!!

You know there is a Lebron rpa tracker on buynicecards.com

One of the other BO members recently helped him improve his website and it’s interface is top notch. Check it out.

It appears that the owner, Eric Bitz, actually owns number 87/99 so he probably won’t appreciate this post, lol. I’m not insinuating that he trimmed it; perhaps he bought it trimmed. Or perhaps it’s an rpa miracle and the card regenerated its edges. Kind of like how Lebron regenerates every team he goes to. ⤵️

oh my!!!!!!

[DevinKurant]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

oh my!!!!!!

Wtf!?! Eric at buynicecards also owns 64 and 74. So 64 used to be a 9 and it’s now a 6? He cut out a 9 and damaged it so it’s a 6 now? That doesn’t make sense.

But 74 is still a BGS 9. Another example of card regeneration!!! Lightning strikes twice! ⚡️ ✌️


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[Lee42]

Originally Posted by DevinKurant

Kind of like how Lebron regenerates every team he goes to. ⤵️

Much like his hairline regenerates multiple times during the season.......

[DevinKurant]

Originally Posted by Lee42

Much like his hairline regenerates multiple times during the season.......

Lol. You win. Yours was better.


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[rookies]

A few high end other members I know have huge problems with Buynicecards. The guy has trimmed countless cards KD ones included.
The 74 was my card. It went straight to him in a trade. It graded originally a 7.5. He then screwed me over on 3k in a trade (but who cares). That said I have lots of pictures of the 74/99 lebron and the card is about as altered as can be. I then got a picture a month later seeing it in a 9 case. Pretty funny. Countless other lebrons he has are altered I have heard. Mcghaee21 posted about this as well nobody cared to comment because buynicecards has such a following but who cares. I would feel sick if someone paid 200k for a fake card I knew was fake and I didnt speak up. So there ya have it.

[the27guy]

Originally Posted by rookies

A few high end other members I know have huge problems with Buynicecards. The guy has trimmed countless cards KD ones included.
The 74 was my card. It went straight to him in a trade. It graded originally a 7.5. He then screwed me over on 3k in a trade (but who cares). That said I have lots of pictures of the 74/99 lebron and the card is about as altered as can be. I then got a picture a month later seeing it in a 9 case. Pretty funny. Countless other lebrons he has are altered I have heard. Mcghaee21 posted about this as well nobody cared to comment because buynicecards has such a following but who cares. I would feel sick if someone paid 200k for a fake card I knew was fake and I didnt speak up. So there ya have it.

Very serious accusations.

This would surprise me very much, but none of us are beyond reproach in the hobby.

Was there no step between you and Eric on #74? The card didn’t first land with somebody else?

[DevinKurant]

Originally Posted by rookies

A few high end other members I know have huge problems with Buynicecards. The guy has trimmed countless cards KD ones included.
The 74 was my card. It went straight to him in a trade. It graded originally a 7.5. He then screwed me over on 3k in a trade (but who cares). That said I have lots of pictures of the 74/99 lebron and the card is about as altered as can be. I then got a picture a month later seeing it in a 9 case. Pretty funny. Countless other lebrons he has are altered I have heard. Mcghaee21 posted about this as well nobody cared to comment because buynicecards has such a following but who cares. I would feel sick if someone paid 200k for a fake card I knew was fake and I didnt speak up. So there ya have it.

Thanks for speaking up. And not to start anything, but most people take Mcghee21 with a grain of salt. He started a witch hunt on a panini employee for God’s sake. Then factor in his multiple other complaints about BGS grading and the other hundreds of combative remarks he litters the threads with. Full disclosure, he welcomed me to BO by accusing me of scamming him on a eBay return. He never told me what the card was nor would he accept my apology..or tell me HOW i scammed him. Sorry for the digression.

[the27guy]

Originally Posted by DevinKurant

Thanks for speaking up. And not to start anything, but most people take Mcghee21 with a grain of salt. He started a witch hunt on a panini employee for God’s sake. Then factor in his multiple other complaints about BGS grading and the other hundreds of combative remarks he litters the threads with. Full disclosure, he welcomed me to BO by accusing me of scamming him on a eBay return. He never told me what the card was nor would he accept my apology..or tell me HOW i scammed him. Sorry for the digression.

He’s also one of the best detectives on BO. I don’t always agree with him, but when he’s made accusations of guys doing shady stuff, he’s been a very valuable resource to the boards.

[DevinKurant]

Originally Posted by the27guy

He’s also one of the best detectives on BO. I don’t always agree with him, but when he’s made accusations of guys doing shady stuff, he’s been a very valuable resource to the boards.

Good to know. I just joined BO 5 months ago. Sampling error on my part. Sorry McGhahee21.


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[the27guy]

Originally Posted by DevinKurant

Good to know. I just joined BO 5 months ago. Sampling error on my part. Sorry McGhahee21.


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You’re good man. He’s had a few moments that haven’t been pretty. Lol.

[rookies]

Originally Posted by the27guy

He’s also one of the best detectives on BO. I don’t always agree with him, but when he’s made accusations of guys doing shady stuff, he’s been a very valuable resource to the boards.

He is. Hes great at that I dont know or focus on anything else but hes very helpful and has real knowledge. Anytime I have talked to him on PM's hes been super helpful. I also cracked the wigginswolf guy for fake patches. I follow all rookies as most know but I really follow the popular ones.

That said I cant confirm anything that people do we dont have a direct video possible haha. Where theres smoke theres fire though. I just wanted to post my .02 on the 74/99 I dont care who cut the card, but the card was cut on the left side. Dont just buy a card do some research if you're dropping 6 figures.

On a side note WATCH OUT FOR GIANNIS NT RPA's. The centering is bad on all the cards. And with him being THE next guy...... do research. I got someone from philippines who sent me a pic of a Giannis I wanted to buy and it looked too perfect on centering almost like the left side was smaller than the right side. It was ungraded I assume because it came back altered and he cut too much.
If anything is taken away from thread its just do research.

[splum]

Originally Posted by rookies

A few high end other members I know have huge problems with Buynicecards. The guy has trimmed countless cards KD ones included.
The 74 was my card. It went straight to him in a trade

Originally Posted by rookies

Sohrob was the middle man connecting us in the trade.

I mean seriously.

[splum]

Originally Posted by rookies

It graded originally a 7.5.

Originally Posted by rookies

If BGS can get involved case is solved. I know when the card was sent in roughly and graded a 8.

You know roughly when the card was sent in just like you roughly know the grade of the freakin thing. Sheesh.

[ninjacookies]

Originally Posted by splum

You know roughly when the card was sent in just like you roughly know the grade of the freakin thing. Sheesh.

RIP Johnny Cochran.

I feel like he'd have a field day with some of these individuals. And have them crying in the fetal by the end of the cross examination.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by rookies

A few high end other members I know have huge problems with Buynicecards. The guy has trimmed countless cards KD ones included.
The 74 was my card. It went straight to him in a trade. It graded originally a 7.5. He then screwed me over on 3k in a trade (but who cares). That said I have lots of pictures of the 74/99 lebron and the card is about as altered as can be. I then got a picture a month later seeing it in a 9 case. Pretty funny. Countless other lebrons he has are altered I have heard. Mcghaee21 posted about this as well nobody cared to comment because buynicecards has such a following but who cares. I would feel sick if someone paid 200k for a fake card I knew was fake and I didnt speak up. So there ya have it.

Remember, rookies already said this in his first post in the thread. So unless you think he's lying (which is possible)...

I'm going to miss my buddy DevinKurant. Anybody have his address so I can send him a $6 card in sympathy?

[gomiamigo]

Originally Posted by rookies

A few high end other members I know have huge problems with Buynicecards. The guy has trimmed countless cards KD ones included. ...

That said I have lots of pictures of the 74/99 lebron and the card is about as altered as can be. I then got a picture a month later seeing it in a 9 case. Pretty funny. Countless other lebrons he has are altered I have heard. Mcghaee21 posted about this as well nobody cared to comment because buynicecards has such a following but who cares.

Make sure to warn all the Kevin Durant collectors about this thread also.

I always wondered where he got all these super-hi grade KD rookies since I've been collecting him also since his rookie season and have looked to buy hi-grade ones for several years but man are they hard to find in Exquisite and other releases.

[theLUCKYshow]

Woah this thread is much more than I was expecting. Trimming is a big deal. I hope that some answers come from this.

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[yaoming]

Wow
Cant believe people will do this to
One of the most iconic cards ...

When it comes to exquisites cards, i really dont care about grade, they all have chipping and that s okay

I believe the KD exquisite RPA has its own issue with patch replacement



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