Jordan Star rookie question

Diana1984 · 01-22-2021, 05:45 PM

Hi this is my first post on this forum and I am seeking some advice. My husband is interested in purchasing this card and I noticed the ones on ebay are all different some are graded with just the Jordan card and others are in a sealed bag. Ive done some research and I know to avoid fakes that you should only buy graded. But are the sealed bag sets safe to buy? Are all these examples that I found on ebay authentic? Thanks for your help.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/GAI-8-5-MIC...441c%7Ciid%3A1

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1984-85-Mic...441c%7Ciid%3A1

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1984-85-Chi...1452%7Ciid%3A1

Brent72 · 01-22-2021, 05:50 PM

I'm not an "expert", but I'm pretty sure all 3 of those are legit. The first one definitely is because it has been graded, but the other 2 most likely are as well. There are very few instances of the sealed bags being faked and if someone was trying to pass off a fake as legit it would be immediately noticeable. Good luck with your purchase.

Skeely · 03-02-2021, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Brent72

I'm not an "expert", but I'm pretty sure all 3 of those are legit. The first one definitely is because it has been graded, but the other 2 most likely are as well. There are very few instances of the sealed bags being faked and if someone was trying to pass off a fake as legit it would be immediately noticeable. Good luck with your purchase.

This made me laugh out loud. It being graded means nothing at this point. Third party graders are a sham considering they cant catch altered cards and there are evene reprints that have poppped up in psa or bgs slabs as graded genuine. Were in trouble if people dont drop the "its graded so tis definetely legit" mentality cause thats not true whatsoever.

Brent72 · 03-02-2021, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Skeely

This made me laugh out loud. It being graded means nothing at this point. Third party graders are a sham considering they cant catch altered cards and there are evene reprints that have poppped up in psa or bgs slabs as graded genuine. Were in trouble if people dont drop the "its graded so tis definetely legit" mentality cause thats not true whatsoever.

Glad it's so easy to make you laugh out loud.

sebreg · 01-22-2021, 05:57 PM

I don't know this topic well enough, and given my lack of knowledge and $ involved the only Star XRC Jordan I'd feel comfortable buying is a BGS graded one.

Brent72 · 01-22-2021, 06:07 PM

I would never buy just the single Jordan XRC card that wasn't graded, but I would be comfortable buying a bag set like the ones the OP linked to. As I said, those are hardly ever faked and if they are it's easy to spot them.

sebreg · 01-22-2021, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Brent72

I would never buy just the single Jordan XRC card that wasn't graded, but I would be comfortable buying a bag set like the ones the OP linked to. As I said, those are hardly ever faked and if they are it's easy to spot them.

Yeah, that sounds good to me for sure. I just don't know that market well enough to gauge those things which is why I just go to the easy default of bgs graded. But I would research a bunch to see the value comparisons, maybe buying the team bags provides better value?

Brent72 · 01-22-2021, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by sebreg

Yeah, that sounds good to me for sure. I just don't know that market well enough to gauge those things which is why I just go to the easy default of bgs graded. But I would research a bunch to see the value comparisons, maybe buying the team bags provides better value?

The way prices are spiking for the Jordan XRC right now, especially in high grade, that bag at $24,500 will probably look like a bargain soon.

Duke1992 · 01-22-2021, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Diana1984

Hi this is my first post on this forum and I am seeking some advice. My husband is interested in purchasing this card and I noticed the ones on ebay are all different some are graded with just the Jordan card and others are in a sealed bag. Ive done some research and I know to avoid fakes that you should only buy graded. But are the sealed bag sets safe to buy? Are all these examples that I found on ebay authentic? Thanks for your help.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/GAI-8-5-MIC...441c%7Ciid%3A1

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1984-85-Mic...441c%7Ciid%3A1

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1984-85-Chi...1452%7Ciid%3A1

(1) I wouldnt buy graded unless its PSA, BGS or SGC.

(2) While those bags appear legit, the pictures are awful. I wouldnt buy bags of Star off eBay. You cant see in enough detail if the bags have been tampered with or are original. Only from a legit auction house would i dare spend that kind of money on an ungraded/non-authenticated item like this.

Bob824 · 01-22-2021, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Duke1992

(1) I wouldnt buy graded unless its PSA, BGS or SGC.

(2) While those bags appear legit, the pictures are awful. I wouldnt buy bags of Star off eBay. You cant see in enough detail if the bags have been tampered with or are original. Only from a legit auction house would i dare spend that kind of money on an ungraded/non-authenticated item like this.

Completely agree with this post.

ari_ivy · 01-22-2021, 06:57 PM

I’m 99% sure those bags are legit. If you would like to be 100% sure ask for a high quality scan of the bag similar to this one:

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Brent72 · 01-22-2021, 07:11 PM

Has anyone actually seen a fake Bulls team bag for sale? I bought mine in the 90s from a reputable dealer so I know it's legit, but just wondering if anyone here has actually run across a fake being passed off as real.

GTguy · 01-24-2021, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Brent72

Has anyone actually seen a fake Bulls team bag for sale? I bought mine in the 90s from a reputable dealer so I know it's legit, but just wondering if anyone here has actually run across a fake being passed off as real.

Yes, several. There was one on ebay as recently as a few weeks ago. Be very, very careful with these.

Brent72 · 01-24-2021, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by GTguy

Yes, several. There was one on ebay as recently as a few weeks ago. Be very, very careful with these.

I searched completed auctions and there haven't been any '84-85 Bulls team bags sold in the past 2 months.

GTguy · 01-24-2021, 08:22 PM

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I searched completed auctions and there haven't been any '84-85 Bulls team bags sold in the past 2 months.

Because I (and probably several others as well) reported it and it was taken down, not sold. You're welcome

Willikn · 01-26-2021, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Brent72

I searched completed auctions and there haven't been any '84-85 Bulls team bags sold in the past 2 months.

Speaks to the fact that those holding clean copies and want to sell are grading. Have to be crazy not to, right?

Holding is a different matter of course. Those people aren't selling bagged copies either.

mjcollector · 01-22-2021, 07:47 PM

Here's a bgs 7 with decent subs that just popped up: https://www.ebay.com/itm/1984-85-Sta....m46890.l49292

Diana1984 · 01-22-2021, 09:17 PM

Thanks for all the replies. It appears the consensus is that if its in the bag it is an authentic card.

aro13 · 01-22-2021, 09:43 PM

I would be careful with the Jordan purchase. There is a fake Jordan GAI 8 RC on ebay right now.
Check out the website at basketballgold.com which is devoted to Star Company cards and you should find your answer on that page.

Diana1984 · 01-22-2021, 11:47 PM

thanks for the link. is this the fake jordan you are referring to?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Michael-Jor...UAAOSwCdhgCiHW

aro13 · 01-22-2021, 11:49 PM

Yes that is the one

Brent72 · 01-22-2021, 11:57 PM

How could GAI authenticate a fake?

Diana1984 · 01-23-2021, 12:10 AM

This is interesting. Im learning on the fly here. My research shows is what makes it a fake is the "Reb" on the back. It should show as "REB" correct? Anything else to look for?

Adam85 · 01-23-2021, 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Diana1984

This is interesting. Im learning on the fly here. My research shows is what makes it a fake is the "Reb" on the back. It should show as "REB" correct? Anything else to look for?

The Line above the "totals" should only go to the first dot, it should not cover 4

Bulls90s · 01-23-2021, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam85

The Line above the "totals" should only go to the first dot, it should not cover 4

The same line on right side should be longer, not shorter like fake ones.

101 location should be up higher.. not down farther like fake ones.

There r some good fakes so be careful.

REB on back does not mean it's 100 percent real.

01-22-2021, 05:45 PM	#1
Diana1984 Member Join Date: Jan 2021 Posts: 172	Jordan Star rookie question Hi this is my first post on this forum and I am seeking some advice. My husband is interested in purchasing this card and I noticed the ones on ebay are all different some are graded with just the Jordan card and others are in a sealed bag. Ive done some research and I know to avoid fakes that you should only buy graded. But are the sealed bag sets safe to buy? Are all these examples that I found on ebay authentic? Thanks for your help. https://www.ebay.com/itm/GAI-8-5-MIC...441c%7Ciid%3A1 https://www.ebay.com/itm/1984-85-Mic...441c%7Ciid%3A1 https://www.ebay.com/itm/1984-85-Chi...1452%7Ciid%3A1

01-22-2021, 05:57 PM	#5
sebreg Member Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 1,734 cardcollecting82	I don't know this topic well enough, and given my lack of knowledge and $ involved the only Star XRC Jordan I'd feel comfortable buying is a BGS graded one. __________________ Cards: http://www.instagram.com/cardcollecting82 My artwork: http://www.instagram.com/sebreg Flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/190656817@N03/albums

01-22-2021, 07:47 PM	#17
mjcollector Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 1,183	Here's a bgs 7 with decent subs that just popped up: https://www.ebay.com/itm/1984-85-Sta....m46890.l49292 __________________ Follow Me On Instagram mjjcollector23 Subscribe to My YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6m_JdEgWVpHQXgQRz0IdOA

01-22-2021, 05:50 PM	#2
Brent72 Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Illinois Posts: 697	I'm not an "expert", but I'm pretty sure all 3 of those are legit. The first one definitely is because it has been graded, but the other 2 most likely are as well. There are very few instances of the sealed bags being faked and if someone was trying to pass off a fake as legit it would be immediately noticeable. Good luck with your purchase.

01-22-2021, 06:07 PM	#6
Brent72 Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Illinois Posts: 697	I would never buy just the single Jordan XRC card that wasn't graded, but I would be comfortable buying a bag set like the ones the OP linked to. As I said, those are hardly ever faked and if they are it's easy to spot them.

01-22-2021, 06:57 PM	#11
ari_ivy Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Posts: 145	I’m 99% sure those bags are legit. If you would like to be 100% sure ask for a high quality scan of the bag similar to this one: Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

01-22-2021, 07:11 PM	#12
Brent72 Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Illinois Posts: 697	Has anyone actually seen a fake Bulls team bag for sale? I bought mine in the 90s from a reputable dealer so I know it's legit, but just wondering if anyone here has actually run across a fake being passed off as real.

01-22-2021, 09:17 PM	#18
Diana1984 Member Join Date: Jan 2021 Posts: 172	Thanks for all the replies. It appears the consensus is that if its in the bag it is an authentic card.

01-22-2021, 09:43 PM	#19
aro13 Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 972	I would be careful with the Jordan purchase. There is a fake Jordan GAI 8 RC on ebay right now. Check out the website at basketballgold.com which is devoted to Star Company cards and you should find your answer on that page.

01-22-2021, 11:47 PM	#20
Diana1984 Member Join Date: Jan 2021 Posts: 172	thanks for the link. is this the fake jordan you are referring to? https://www.ebay.com/itm/Michael-Jor...UAAOSwCdhgCiHW

01-22-2021, 11:49 PM	#21
aro13 Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 972	Yes that is the one

01-22-2021, 11:57 PM	#22
Brent72 Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Illinois Posts: 697	How could GAI authenticate a fake?

01-23-2021, 12:10 AM	#23
Diana1984 Member Join Date: Jan 2021 Posts: 172	This is interesting. Im learning on the fly here. My research shows is what makes it a fake is the "Reb" on the back. It should show as "REB" correct? Anything else to look for?