Who’s Ball is it?

[cardsin47]

“Fan Sues to Stop Auction of Shohei Ohtani's 50th MLB HR Ball; Says He Caught It First. An 18-year-old baseball fan is suing collectibles marketplace Goldin for the ownership rights to Los Angeles Dodgers star Shohei Ohtani's 50th home run ball”

[hermanotarjeta]

Gotta love ‘murica!

[spuds1961]

Originally Posted by cardsin47

“Fan Sues to Stop Auction of Shohei Ohtani's 50th MLB HR Ball; Says He Caught It First. An 18-year-old baseball fan is suing collectibles marketplace Goldin for the ownership rights to Los Angeles Dodgers star Shohei Ohtani's 50th home run ball”

This should be interesting why is it most things Shohei does are stooped in controversy.

[Triple B]

Originally Posted by spuds1961

This should be interesting why is it most things Shohei does are stooped in controversy.

Dolla, dolla billz, y’all.

[cardsin47]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cHrwwe2GYCs

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[fabiani12333]

Originally Posted by cardsin47

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cHrwwe2GYCs

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I don't know -- even though he seems like a total dweeb, he did act like the ball was taken from him. Look how he keeps trying to grab the ball even though the guy has it completely wrapped up and secure. Then when the guy with the ball stands up and holds up the ball in the air, the kid begins to reach for it again like it's his. Then he throws his hands in the air and blurts out "f*ck!" like he was robbed.

He could just be an entitled brat, but I think there's a good chance he had it in his hands for at least a moment.

[MiamiMarlinsFan]

Who came out of the dog pile with it? That’s who owns the ball.

[Mister2Bits]

As soon as the kid let go and put his hands in the air it was over.

It's not who catches it, it's who walks away with it.

Sometimes life kicks you in the balls.

[hche]

Doesnt seem like anyone "caught it first".

[whitmm]

I'm assuming it's the guy in the red Marlins jersey that is suing?

Whoever it is will have a pretty hard time winning, because none of the videos really show him ever having possession.

[no10pin]

Yeah, the video shows the kid in red with one hand on the ball while the guy who ended up with it seems to have it wrapped up in both hands. I don't think he's going to be able to prove that he ever had sole possession of it.

[atk825]

Possession is 9/10th of the law

[FTLFTL]

Originally Posted by atk825

Possession is 9/10th of the law

This is generally not true, but in this case it is sort of true.

[atk825]

Originally Posted by FTLFTL

This is generally not true, but in this case it is sort of true.

There is the other 1/10th of the law that sometimes applies.

[eastbayak]

Smart of the kid (or his family) to file the lawsuit.

Little risk for a potentially big reward.

The "owners" of the ball might be willing to pay a settlement or offer partial equity to keep the auction going.

[Nester99]

Originally Posted by eastbayak

Smart of the kid (or his family) to file the lawsuit.

Little risk for a potentially big reward.

The "owners" of the ball might be willing to pay a settlement or offer partial equity to keep the auction going.

Sounds like he is taking a $0 win and turning it into a -$20,000 win.....

[eastbayak]

Originally Posted by Nester99

Sounds like he is taking a $0 win and turning it into a -$20,000 win.....

But that's assuming:

(1) he doesn't get paid out

(2) his lawyers didn't offer him a deal (what if he/his fam worked a deal where, if they won the case, the lawyers would take a percentage of the settlement/equity; if they lost the case, the lawyers get nothing)

[Nester99]

Originally Posted by eastbayak

But that's assuming:

(1) he doesn't get paid out

(2) his lawyers didn't offer him a deal (what if he/his fam worked a deal where, if they won the case, the lawyers would take a percentage of the settlement/equity; if they lost the case, the lawyers get nothing)

Correct,

I think they are very safe assumptions based on the video evidence that does not (in my opinion) show him having possession.

In my experience lawyers are very unlikely to take a case of this nature without a retainer. For the most part they are not degenerate gamblers like us card hounds.

[eastbayak]

Originally Posted by Nester99

Correct,

I think they are very safe assumptions based on the video evidence that does not (in my opinion) show him having possession.

In my experience lawyers are very unlikely to take a case of this nature without a retainer. For the most part they are not degenerate gamblers like us card hounds.

At the same time, I could see the "owners" willing to settle quick (or offer a small equity) to be done with the lawsuit so they can proceed with the auction hassle-free.

Sometimes, the truth doesn't matter, and delaying the auction (of unknown length) can result in potential $ lost (e.g., loss of momentum, sudden change of economy, etc). People are always willing to sacrifice a little gain to get rid of any inconveniences to get that big payout ASAP.

It's not your traditional case too. Most lawyers aren't dealing with $3+ million dollar baseball lawsuits.

[Nester99]

"Possession is 9/10s of the law"

Kid is cooked. - Perhaps he should have put his phone down LOL

[hche]

Originally Posted by Nester99

"Possession is 9/10s of the law"

Kid is cooked. - Perhaps he should have put his phone down LOL

That is when he needs to throw everything away and dive into the pile. The ball will cover 1000x his losses.

[ensbergcollecto]

you can tell my his immediate reaction in the video that he felt like it was taken from him but i don't see anything in the video to back up how he feels.

[fulltritty]

Need to get an NFL ruling to determine "possession" of the ball.

[therealcjc33]

Originally Posted by fulltritty

Need to get an NFL ruling to determine "possession" of the ball.

After further review, the guy who came away with the ball was down by contact.

Red jersey kid is now out of challenges.

[Foek69]

Originally Posted by fulltritty

Need to get an NFL ruling to determine "possession" of the ball.

Did he take two steps and make a baseball move ?