First Buzz: 2024 Donruss Optic football cards

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[Ninotores]

Panini stuff just isn't the same this year with lacking so many rookie autos...and more stickers...bleh

[majestik101]

Originally Posted by Ninotores

Panini stuff just isn't the same this year with lacking so many rookie autos

It's still priced as though they have them. And to stick it in further, the checklist will probably be released the week after this stuff hits the shelves. What a fun 'hobby'!

[slyguy]

Originally Posted by majestik101

It's still priced as though they have [rookie autos]...

Yep, and I love it.

Let the breakers and breakees waste their money... then buy the few good singles.

It's great to hear "do you know how much a box of this cost?" and "this is a really expensive set" when you make an offer on Prizm, Black, etc cards on eBay.

[ddearing]

Originally Posted by Ninotores

Panini stuff just isn't the same this year with lacking so many rookie autos...and more stickers...bleh

It’s actually exactly the same lacking so many big rookie autos. Did you forget the 2023 product?

[SkolVikesCards]

Originally Posted by ddearing

It’s actually exactly the same lacking so many big rookie autos. Did you forget the 2023 product?

I disagree with this partially. Yes last year was bad but we still had AR, bijan, puka, flowers, addison to chase. This years it’s just penix and jj and then who legette? Way worse this year imo

[EBCollectibles]

Originally Posted by SkolVikesCards

I disagree with this partially. Yes last year was bad but we still had AR, bijan, puka, flowers, addison to chase. This years it’s just penix and jj and then who legette? Way worse this year imo

I would have been ashamed to put AR. Ladd had good of a season of any rookie besides Puka.

[jcp2]

Originally Posted by EBCollectibles

I would have been ashamed to put AR. Ladd had good of a season of any rookie besides Puka.

Ladd, and Brian Thomas jr. BT jr is going to be great and a future all pro imo. Brian Thomas is one of the guys i have been collecting and i feel he is under the radar. Ladd is going to be a steady 1000 yard guy. I want a Joe Alt auto that is not a sticker but i can't seem to find any. I don't collect sticker autos. I think those things are fine if you put one in every donruss mega, but in products that cost a bit, imo it is rediculous.

[EBCollectibles]

Originally Posted by Ninotores

Panini stuff just isn't the same this year with lacking so many rookie autos...and more stickers...bleh

How many football autos are FANATICS producing? The same as last year. A few unlicensed garbage looking cards. I'll take Panini anyday.

[Jaysabz]

Originally Posted by Ninotores

Panini stuff just isn't the same this year with lacking so many rookie autos...and more stickers...bleh

Stickers!?!

I've been priced out for so long I haven't even paid attention, but back in 2016, 2017, 2018, Prizm and Optic Hobby boxes were about the same price, but Optic's thing was that there was only one auto per box but the auto was on-card, as compared to Prizm, where you got three autos, but they were sticker autos.

[Siberian13]

I love Optic but not a big fan of the design though. I’ll still collect Penix though

[asujbl]

Originally Posted by Siberian13

I love Optic but not a big fan of the design though. I’ll still collect Penix though

Sounds like Penis. Always funny

[supersaturated]

Originally Posted by Siberian13

I love Optic but not a big fan of the design though. I’ll still collect Penix though

This is the worst Optic design by far imo

[marinocollector]

I hope they ungrainify the marino. his base donruss is brutal

[Slvnumber2]

This product launches next month iirc - anyone have a street date for when hobby and retail will launch?

[Delta5]

it will be interesting to see if FOTL has error case with 20+ DT a case like last year

[mossoholic]

Originally Posted by Delta5

it will be interesting to see if FOTL has error case with 20+ DT a case like last year

0% chance. There hasn't been a single pack out issue since then from Panini. If it is ever going to happen again the odds of it being the exact same product there is a better chance of you winning the Powerball.

[slyguy]

Originally Posted by mossoholic

0% chance. There hasn't been a single pack out issue since then from Panini. If it is ever going to happen again the odds of it being the exact same product there is a better chance of you winning the Powerball.

There are errors fairly often.

One of my buds who does breaks/consign had a Panini Black case pack this year that had 3 RPA and 3 case hits in it... the next pack from the case was 4 base, no autos, missing a card.

[each "box" aka pack for that product is 5 cards: a rook base/parallel, a mem, an auto, RPA, and a vet base/parallel]

Stuff happens.

[mossoholic]

Originally Posted by slyguy

There are errors fairly often.

One of my buds who does breaks/consign had a Panini Black case pack this year that had 3 RPA and 3 case hits in it... the next pack from the case was 4 base, no autos, missing a card.

[each "box" aka pack for that product is 5 cards: a rook base/parallel, a mem, an auto, RPA, and a vet base/parallel]

Stuff happens.

That obviously is not the same thing we are talking about. That hasn't made any difference on the market of that product. 2023 Optic Football FOTL had many cases that had 15-40 Downtowns. This issue absolutely skyrocketed the sealed wax and break price for this product. The odds of what happened with Optic FOTL happening again before Panini loses the license is basically 0%. The odds of it happening on the exact same product 2 years in a row there is no chance.

[sethc1020]

I just love the "Ultra Rare" Downtowns. I got a good chuckle out of that.

[triden3012]

Boxes going for close $900 right now. Little too rich for my blood. Will monitor to see if it comes down at all, but not holding my breath.

[Slvnumber2]

Originally Posted by triden3012

Boxes going for close $900 right now. Little too rich for my blood. Will monitor to see if it comes down at all, but not holding my breath.

Where are you seeing boxes for $900. Thank you.

[triden3012]

Originally Posted by Slvnumber2

Where are you seeing boxes for $900. Thank you.

Steel City and Midwest Cards both at $880

https://www.steelcitycollectibles.co...AaAok1EALw_wcB


https://www.midwestcards.com/shop/fo...TlW3QKu7C4OPk3

[mossoholic]

How much money percentage wise would you be down buying any basketball or football hobby box presale from an online retailer over the last year or so? By my count there is 1 product you would be around break even on. 2024 Prizm football. Every other product is a loss now. Right after release almost every product was a loss too. Anyone buying something well over MSRP at these price manipulators listed prices is a moron. That price is only put up as a way to artificially manipulate the market. 99.9% of what they are selling is under the table at a lower, in most cases, much lower price.

2023 Optic is selling for half the price of 2023 Prizm. 2024 Prizm is around $1100 a box. Who the hell do you think is clamoring to buy 2024 Optic for close to $900 a box? Answer. Nobody with a brain. It will be selling for $550-$650 at or right after release.

[jcp2]

Originally Posted by mossoholic

How much money percentage wise would you be down buying any basketball or football hobby box presale from an online retailer over the last year or so? By my count there is 1 product you would be around break even on. 2024 Prizm football. Every other product is a loss now. Right after release almost every product was a loss too. Anyone buying something well over MSRP at these price manipulators listed prices is a moron. That price is only put up as a way to artificially manipulate the market. 99.9% of what they are selling is under the table at a lower, in most cases, much lower price.

2023 Optic is selling for half the price of 2023 Prizm. 2024 Prizm is around $1100 a box. Who the hell do you think is clamoring to buy 2024 Optic for close to $900 a box? Answer. Nobody with a brain. It will be selling for $550-$650 at or right after release.

If optic is selling that low after the release i will scoop one up. I have 40 blasters and 10 megas coming my way so that is a big chunk of money spent.