Need input on a current situation.

1addict · 03-28-2016, 04:20 AM

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jasonadkins · 03-28-2016, 04:30 AM

Is he still alive? So you kept buying cards for him expecting to make a solid commission even after there has been no response for almost two years? Lots of question marks here.

1addict · 03-28-2016, 04:36 AM

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jj2 · 03-28-2016, 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by jasonadkins

Is he still alive?

That escalated quickly.

ReggieEvansPC · 03-28-2016, 04:47 AM

Have you tried sending an email with a "read reply"?

1addict · 03-28-2016, 04:50 AM

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JMarchand1981 · 03-28-2016, 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by 1addict

Hey guys, needed some help on a current situation.

So a little over three-four years ago, I was helping a member out with a set he was trying to complete. In return I would receive a commission. I would find the card and let the member know the price, he would then send me the money including my commission and I would buy the card for him. I would continue doing this for about a year to a year and half. The member always sent me money and would pay great money on these cards to finish his set. However sometimes commutation was a problem and I would have to wait a couple days for his reply.

Fast forward to 2014 and I purchased around 30 cards for him and I have lost commutation with him. I've called him at least once a week with no reply, sent him countless emails/texts and even sent mail to his house.

A lot of you would say why don't you ship out the cards to his house. The reason I have not and have been holding the cards is because he has spent over 10k on these cards and he would always tell me he is usually never home and is traveling. I've been waiting on him to contact me but its been well over a year since I've heard from him.

I talked to PayPal yesterday and they told me if the buyer hasn't contacted you for his cards in over 180 days then LEGALLY your the owner. I still called the member right after I talked to PayPal to try to get in touch with him again but yet again I got no reply.

What do you guys think I should do?

A few things here:

I wouldn't take legal advice from a phone jockey at PayPal

Commutation, huh? The guy hasn't been commutating with you? He may not have a phone in prison.

So you are basically holding the bag for this guy? It sounds like part of your commission was a storage fee as well.

pingbling23 · 03-28-2016, 05:31 AM

So the other party has already paid for the cards and you're wondering how long until you are considered to be the owner? I'm really confused.

1addict · 03-28-2016, 07:01 AM

No I'm not. Its just frustrating that I have been trying to contact him over the last couple years when its not even my cards and it should be the other way around. I do understand he may not be able to contact me but I find it odd that he's read my text messages and hasn't replied.

Why would I fly from LA to Miami to drop off the cards? Again..He should be contacting me.

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Originally Posted by pingbling23

So the other party has already paid for the cards and you're wondering how long until you are considered to be the owner? I'm really confused.

XARZY · 03-28-2016, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by 1addict

No I'm not. Its just frustrating that I have been trying to contact him over the last couple years when its not even my cards and it should be the other way around. I do understand he may not be able to contact me but I find it odd that he's read my text messages and hasn't replied.

Why would I fly from LA to Miami to drop off the cards? Again..He should be contacting me.

Where in Miami? I'm down here

Worse case scenario dude is in jail or dead

pingbling23 · 03-28-2016, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 1addict

No I'm not. Its just frustrating that I have been trying to contact him over the last couple years when its not even my cards and it should be the other way around. I do understand he may not be able to contact me but I find it odd that he's read my text messages and hasn't replied.

Why would I fly from LA to Miami to drop off the cards? Again..He should be contacting me.

because you have 10k worth of someones property and you obviously cant figure anything out over the computer. this is someone that has trusted you with alot of money for a few years, not some complete stranger. give us their name and ebay name.

jstasyk1121 · 03-28-2016, 03:32 PM

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because you have 10k worth of someones property and you obviously cant figure anything out over the computer. this is someone that has trusted you with alot of money for a few years, not some complete stranger. give us their name and ebay name.

to be fair in no way would i just randomly fly myself across the country when i havent talked to the guy in 2yrs....what are you gonna do? just leave the cards on the porch of the last known address you had for him??

pingbling23 · 03-28-2016, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jstasyk1121

to be fair in no way would i just randomly fly myself across the country when i havent talked to the guy in 2yrs....what are you gonna do? just leave the cards on the porch of the last known address you had for him??

if he has 10k outstanding cards in his possession, i have to assume there was alot more money involved. this takes a high level of trust and a strong relationship so it wouldnt be out of line to spend a couple of hundred dollars and fly out to the owner of the cards. he could go to the address and it may lead to a resolution. most people could do this online or via phone but the op obviously cant and im not going to waste my time solving this.

pingbling23 · 03-28-2016, 05:34 AM

If I had 10k worth of someone's cards, I would fly to that location and see what's up.

TarjetasBéisbol · 03-28-2016, 05:55 AM

Contact a lawyer and see what they have to say on this matter and they will be able to guide you on what you would have to do to cover yourself legally. You have no idea what his current situation is especially if he has spent this amount on cards and has not made an effort to claim them. Make every effort to get the cards to him and do some research on his name in the city and address you were sending the cards to. I wouldn't fly out to his location and do any investigation because you can do the same thing using the internet.

As one member here has already state, "I wouldn't take legal advice from a phone jockey at PayPal" I also wouldn't take any legal advice from someone on BO.

1addict · 03-28-2016, 07:02 AM

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Doublexthebeast · 03-28-2016, 06:39 AM

It's 2016, it should be pretty simple to track someone down. First off, are you both in the US?

1addict · 03-28-2016, 06:58 AM

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sotexcollector · 03-28-2016, 07:04 AM

Best advise, contact a lawyer to cover your behind. Who knows what could had happened to him. If he did pass as someone stated above, I would look for his next of kin and give the cards to them. However, I would let it be known what those cards are worth. But that is just my way of thinking. Good luck finding a resolution.

jcardstore · 03-28-2016, 07:24 AM

So many red flags here on both sides.

First thing that's a major issue is why in the world would you wait 2 years before getting some sort of legal help? You're in possession of $10k worth of this guys money, if I didn't hear back from him in a month I'd be calling a lawyer.

You have the guys home address and name, have you done any research? Like just google the guy, look through local news articles to see if you can find anything that might help you out.

Call his local police department and explain the issue, I'm sure they would be more than happy to hold the cards or find some way to get into contact with this guy.

Giggs11 · 03-28-2016, 08:16 AM

Agreed even a basic Google search would bring up something FB, Linkedin etc as someone mentioned above contact his local PD. Nobody forgets about $10k so he's been MIA which going from what you said, his last response to contact was 2014? BTW did any of the mail you sent to his address come back to you as RTS or anything??
Is he military or anything?
Or possibly something bad has happened to him. Pretty horrible to think but I agree his local PD is the best place to start.

tristan20 · 03-28-2016, 09:03 AM

I think you own the cards now, 2 years is way to long. There is only so much you can do to help, but if a guy is MIA for two years?

He never gave you a phone number at least?

the27guy · 03-28-2016, 09:16 AM

Well, I'll give you this op, this is a very different situation! It'll be interesting to hear what happens.... Talking to an attorney is definitely good advice here. Best of luck!

xavieronly1 · 03-28-2016, 09:49 AM

One police call is all you need. You ask the local police to make a trip to the address and see if he is there or not. Even the neighbours around the house must know something.

Doublexthebeast · 03-28-2016, 10:14 AM

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One police call is all you need. You ask the local police to make a trip to the address and see if he is there or not. Even the neighbours around the house must know something.

I agree but do not tell the police that you have $10k of the guys cards without consulting an attorney first. Tell the police the guy is a business partner and that you have been out of touch for a while. Tell them that he has not responded and you are worried about him. Maybe they can help, maybe not. Whatever you do, don't turn the cards over to the police. They may never make it to him(not saying the police will steal them. They just may question who's property they are and hold them).

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TarjetasBéisbol Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: NOVA Posts: 10,891	Contact a lawyer and see what they have to say on this matter and they will be able to guide you on what you would have to do to cover yourself legally. You have no idea what his current situation is especially if he has spent this amount on cards and has not made an effort to claim them. Make every effort to get the cards to him and do some research on his name in the city and address you were sending the cards to. I wouldn't fly out to his location and do any investigation because you can do the same thing using the internet. As one member here has already state, "I wouldn't take legal advice from a phone jockey at PayPal" I also wouldn't take any legal advice from someone on BO. __________________ De oppresso liber - RLTW "The Mexicans taught me that trick", "Let me be very clear, crystal clear" Last edited by TarjetasBéisbol; 03-28-2016 at 05:57 AM.

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jasonadkins Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 3,233 stripsidecomics	Is he still alive? So you kept buying cards for him expecting to make a solid commission even after there has been no response for almost two years? Lots of question marks here.

03-28-2016, 05:31 AM	#8
pingbling23 Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 15,950 pingbling23	So the other party has already paid for the cards and you're wondering how long until you are considered to be the owner? I'm really confused.

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pingbling23 Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 15,950 pingbling23	If I had 10k worth of someone's cards, I would fly to that location and see what's up.

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sotexcollector Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: South Texas Posts: 2,789	Best advise, contact a lawyer to cover your behind. Who knows what could had happened to him. If he did pass as someone stated above, I would look for his next of kin and give the cards to them. However, I would let it be known what those cards are worth. But that is just my way of thinking. Good luck finding a resolution. __________________ Players: PG13,Carmelo Anthony, R.Gay, Aldridge, J.Taylor, Rockets, Spurs, IG below. paul_george_13_sotex rudy_gay_22_sotex

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jcardstore Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 21,818 Jcardstore	So many red flags here on both sides. First thing that's a major issue is why in the world would you wait 2 years before getting some sort of legal help? You're in possession of $10k worth of this guys money, if I didn't hear back from him in a month I'd be calling a lawyer. You have the guys home address and name, have you done any research? Like just google the guy, look through local news articles to see if you can find anything that might help you out. Call his local police department and explain the issue, I'm sure they would be more than happy to hold the cards or find some way to get into contact with this guy. __________________ Just moonwalking through hell on my last brain cell

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Giggs11 Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Ship to Vermont USA Posts: 1,109 man_utd1979 dylan579	Agreed even a basic Google search would bring up something FB, Linkedin etc as someone mentioned above contact his local PD. Nobody forgets about $10k so he's been MIA which going from what you said, his last response to contact was 2014? BTW did any of the mail you sent to his address come back to you as RTS or anything?? Is he military or anything? Or possibly something bad has happened to him. Pretty horrible to think but I agree his local PD is the best place to start. __________________ https://www.instagram.com/madmanc795/profilecard/?igsh=Z3AyYmdyb2Zub3Q0

03-28-2016, 09:03 AM	#22
tristan20 Banned Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 12,906	I think you own the cards now, 2 years is way to long. There is only so much you can do to help, but if a guy is MIA for two years? He never gave you a phone number at least?

03-28-2016, 09:16 AM	#23
the27guy Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 14,673 the27guy the27guy	Well, I'll give you this op, this is a very different situation! It'll be interesting to hear what happens.... Talking to an attorney is definitely good advice here. Best of luck! __________________ @thereal27guy Founder of Basketball Card Fanatic Magazine

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xavieronly1 Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 13,006	One police call is all you need. You ask the local police to make a trip to the address and see if he is there or not. Even the neighbours around the house must know something. __________________ Instagram IG: xavieronly1