Trading - PWCC as the middle man

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by theLUCKYshow

Wow indeed! If this is legit, SICKENING!

How was that screenshot obtained?

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Post #39

[chezball]

Originally Posted by Siberian13

Post #39

Think he means where did it come from originally.

[mrdallas]

Originally Posted by Siberian13

Betsy Huigens of PWCC here. Brent is salt of the earth, one of the finest people we've ever met and is among the most trusted people in the trading card market. Anyone who knows him would agree. We would not put our own brand in the hands of anyone less.


https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1288383

Damn. I can't believe I missed that thread. Wonder if Betsy will say the same thing when they are all wearing orange jumpsuits.

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by chezball

Think he means where did it come from originally.

I think post #39 goes over where it was coming from?

[imbluestreak23]

Originally Posted by glen87

Not trying to judge, but she doesn't look like she cares about "size" if you know what I mean.

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by imbluestreak23

Not trying to judge, but she doesn't look like she cares about "size" if you know what I mean.

Want to post the GIF of Jim Carey from Me, Myself & Irene with the toy saying did someone have a good time.

[PWCC Marketplace]

I'd like to address the screen capture of the text communication between my husband Brent Huigens and our former client, Cortney DeLorme. Here are the circumstances of that dialogue.

This bidder placed a large series of sequential $100 bids on the card in question, never becoming the high bidder himself. PWCC has a policy against this behavior (we call it "string bidding") because bidders can drive up the price towards another bidder's max bid. Our policy against string bidding is to communicate with bidders that they are not permitted to place sequential bids without becoming the high bidder themselves lest we assume their intention is to artificially drive up the price. If we see this happen a second time, we will cancel bids and block the bidder. This text was exactly that communication.

The assurance that he would be outbid came simply from the fact that the bid at the time was estimated around 50% of the market estimate, so it was overwhelmingly likely that the bidding would increase significantly from its current position as the auction progressed.

I don't actively monitor message board threads, so please reach out to me at betsy@pwccmarketplace.com directly with any questions.

[3124508 on COMC]

Originally Posted by PWCC Marketplace

I'd like to address the screen capture of the text communication between my husband Brent Huigens and our former client, Cortney DeLorme. Here are the circumstances of that dialogue.

This bidder placed a large series of sequential $100 bids on the card in question, never becoming the high bidder himself. PWCC has a policy against this behavior (we call it "string bidding") because bidders can drive up the price towards another bidder's max bid. Our policy against string bidding is to communicate with bidders that they are not permitted to place sequential bids without becoming the high bidder themselves lest we assume their intention is to artificially drive up the price. If we see this happen a second time, we will cancel bids and block the bidder. This text was exactly that communication.

The assurance that he would be outbid came simply from the fact that the bid at the time was estimated around 50% of the market estimate, so it was overwhelmingly likely that the bidding would increase significantly from its current position as the auction progressed.

I don't actively monitor message board threads, so please reach out to me at betsy@pwccmarketplace.com directly with any questions.

These threads are worth a read/response:

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1289334

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1289355

[schrageg]

Originally Posted by PWCC Marketplace

I'd like to address the screen capture of the text communication between my husband Brent Huigens and our former client, Cortney DeLorme. Here are the circumstances of that dialogue.

This bidder placed a large series of sequential $100 bids on the card in question, never becoming the high bidder himself. PWCC has a policy against this behavior (we call it "string bidding") because bidders can drive up the price towards another bidder's max bid. Our policy against string bidding is to communicate with bidders that they are not permitted to place sequential bids without becoming the high bidder themselves lest we assume their intention is to artificially drive up the price. If we see this happen a second time, we will cancel bids and block the bidder. This text was exactly that communication.

The assurance that he would be outbid came simply from the fact that the bid at the time was estimated around 50% of the market estimate, so it was overwhelmingly likely that the bidding would increase significantly from its current position as the auction progressed.

I don't actively monitor message board threads, so please reach out to me at betsy@pwccmarketplace.com directly with any questions.

Can you clarify one thing? Was the bidder the owner of the card? And if so, why do you permit them to bid on it at all?

[PWCC Marketplace]

Originally Posted by schrageg

Can you clarify one thing? Was the bidder the owner of the card? And if so, why do you permit them to bid on it at all?

No, the bidder was not the owner of the card. Owners of assets are not permitted to bid on their items.

[SaveMeTheGum]

Originally Posted by PWCC Marketplace

I'd like to address the screen capture of the text communication between my husband Brent Huigens and our former client, Cortney DeLorme. Here are the circumstances of that dialogue.

This bidder placed a large series of sequential $100 bids on the card in question, never becoming the high bidder himself. PWCC has a policy against this behavior (we call it "string bidding") because bidders can drive up the price towards another bidder's max bid. Our policy against string bidding is to communicate with bidders that they are not permitted to place sequential bids without becoming the high bidder themselves lest we assume their intention is to artificially drive up the price. If we see this happen a second time, we will cancel bids and block the bidder. This text was exactly that communication.

The assurance that he would be outbid came simply from the fact that the bid at the time was estimated around 50% of the market estimate, so it was overwhelmingly likely that the bidding would increase significantly from its current position as the auction progressed.

I don't actively monitor message board threads, so please reach out to me at betsy@pwccmarketplace.com directly with any questions.

Thanks for responding Betsy.

Do you have any comment regarding the threads that seem to show clear evidence that PWCC has a history of selling trimmed/altered cards?

[pejc300]

Originally Posted by PWCC Marketplace

No, the bidder was not the owner of the card. Owners of assets are not permitted to bid on their items.

thank you for responding. Can you help us understand why Brent cared that the bidder would be outbid? What would be the reason for telling somebody that?

[corndog]

Originally Posted by PWCC Marketplace

I'd like to address the screen capture of the text communication between my husband Brent Huigens and our former client, Cortney DeLorme. Here are the circumstances of that dialogue.

This bidder placed a large series of sequential $100 bids on the card in question, never becoming the high bidder himself. PWCC has a policy against this behavior (we call it "string bidding") because bidders can drive up the price towards another bidder's max bid. Our policy against string bidding is to communicate with bidders that they are not permitted to place sequential bids without becoming the high bidder themselves lest we assume their intention is to artificially drive up the price. If we see this happen a second time, we will cancel bids and block the bidder. This text was exactly that communication.

The assurance that he would be outbid came simply from the fact that the bid at the time was estimated around 50% of the market estimate, so it was overwhelmingly likely that the bidding would increase significantly from its current position as the auction progressed.

I don't actively monitor message board threads, so please reach out to me at betsy@pwccmarketplace.com directly with any questions.

On a sad note, Cortney DeLorme passed away last June.

[the27guy]

Betsy,

Thank you for posting here. I appreciate that you came to this thread today to discuss the screen shot that we keep seeing of Brent instructing a bidder to bid on his item. Understanding the specifics of that situation is helpful. I have a few questions related to this and understand that as times change, things that happened in the past are viewed through today's lens. That puts you guys in a tough spot sometimes.

With that said, I may be remembering this wrong, but wasn't there a time in PWCC's history where people were allowed to place a "reserve bid" on cards they were listing for sale? Or am I remembering that wrong? When was Cortney's bid? Was it after that practice ended? And again, forgive me if I'm remembering wrong on this.

With regard to the questions that others are asking about your business, there are a lot of things that people would love to know about and I'd suggest that much of what has come out recently in terms of alteration and using you to hide the trail of the "card doctors" that's a really important item to discuss. Understanding what you guys do and are willing to do to combat card alteration is going to be important to many of us though I can appreciate if you came here to discuss other things and not that at the moment.

There's nothing wrong with meeting internally to decide what processes you're going to take to eliminate the bad guys behavior addressing it here, but I'd suggest that we as a hobby are thirsty for those answers.