BGS 9.5 premium? PSA 10?

HDooley33 · 09-02-2019, 12:00 PM

What are your guys’ opinions on the Premium a true 9.5 holds over a 9 on a premium card? Such as on an SPA Lebron RC?

From what can tell it’s 1.5-1.6x the 9?

Thanks?

Also on Lebrons chrome Refractors a 10 seems to be worth almost 2-2.5x as much as a 9 for these type of cards? Is that accurate?

Thanks!

ThoseBackPages · 09-02-2019, 12:24 PM

i think its great!

asujbl · 09-02-2019, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

i think its great!

Great for scamming

ThoseBackPages · 09-02-2019, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by asujbl

Great for scamming

its all a scam

AbraCalabro · 09-02-2019, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by asujbl

Great for scamming

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

its all a scam

Entered thread to post this, saw it was already posted, now leaving thread satisfied.

Doublestriker · 09-02-2019, 01:02 PM

If your card is a BGS 9.5 with a 9 sub grade In most cases its no better than a PSA 9 thats just my opinion. It does have a lot to do with which sub grade is a 9. Centering 9 is not as big of a deal when comparing.

HDooley33 · 09-02-2019, 01:03 PM

I agree it’s a scam. But if the card really is pristine (not over graded, not altered) and its an older card (15+ years) it should be worth more than a 9 with some issues (Centering, corners).

I know with all the grading fraud going accurate grades are questionable to say the least.

HDooley33 · 09-02-2019, 01:07 PM

Out of all subgrades, I think edges carries the least weight.
I consider a 9.5 with 9 edges to be a gem card.
I’ve seen PSA 9s have terrible Centering.
I know it’s all subjective. Matters what the card looks like to the owner. Some flaws bother some, some don’t.

hollywood hogan · 09-02-2019, 01:10 PM

why do folks consider subgrades scamming? serious question because I actually really appreciate the added detail that a subgrade provides

AbraCalabro · 09-02-2019, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by hollywood hogan

why do folks consider subgrades scamming? serious question because I actually really appreciate the added detail that a subgrade provides

I think the sentiment is in reference to grading in general.

asujbl · 09-02-2019, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by AbraCalabro

I think the sentiment is in reference to grading in general.

The sentiment was sarcasm if we’re being honest

AbraCalabro · 09-02-2019, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by asujbl

The sentiment was sarcasm if we’re being honest

Well, if we're being honest, it wasn't sarcasm on my part.

mc1 · 09-02-2019, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by AbraCalabro

Well, if we're being honest, it wasn't sarcasm on my part.

Take note Abra. The two first responses in the thread are from some of the biggest Please Sumbit Again fanboys.

ThoseBackPages · 09-02-2019, 02:08 PM

i love slabs

asujbl · 09-02-2019, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by mc1

Take note Abra. The two first responses in the thread are from some of the biggest Please Sumbit Again fanboys.

Truth bombs

ThoseBackPages · 09-02-2019, 02:13 PM

bid on slabs erryday

JMarchand1981 · 09-02-2019, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by asujbl

The sentiment was sarcasm if we’re being honest

Grading is a scam?

asujbl · 09-02-2019, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JMarchand1981

Grading is a scam?

Maybe?

Mind blown.

AbraCalabro · 09-02-2019, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by mc1

Take note Abra. The two first responses in the thread are from some of the biggest Please Sumbit Again fanboys.

Ah thanks, honestly was unaware lmao. But, yeah, total scam. (no sarcasm)

HDooley33 · 09-02-2019, 02:55 PM

Does anyone have an answer for the original question?
1.5x more?

asujbl · 09-02-2019, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by HDooley33

Does anyone have an answer for the original question?
1.5x more?

The answer is there is no answer

It’s individually based

jbettis32 · 09-02-2019, 11:57 PM

If a 9.5 Gem with one 9 sub-grade compares to a non sub-grade Gem 9.5, which one you will pay for more?

HDooley33 · 09-03-2019, 11:58 AM

Personally, I think importance is (Centering/Corners, Surface, Edges)

KeenanRIVALS · 09-03-2019, 12:28 PM

I wrote an entire blog post on this if you guys care to check it out.

https://medium.com/@KeenanRIVALS/why...s-3eebbf63192c

goldkobe · 09-03-2019, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by asujbl

The answer is there is no answer

It’s individually based

agreed, it also depends on the card, and how many BGS9.5 there is, let's say pop of BGS9.5 is only two and it's a older/rare card, I don't think the price would be much different imo.

09-02-2019, 12:00 PM	#1
HDooley33 Banned - PBM Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 23 arovaruoll0	BGS 9.5 premium? PSA 10? What are your guys’ opinions on the Premium a true 9.5 holds over a 9 on a premium card? Such as on an SPA Lebron RC? From what can tell it’s 1.5-1.6x the 9? Thanks? Also on Lebrons chrome Refractors a 10 seems to be worth almost 2-2.5x as much as a 9 for these type of cards? Is that accurate? Thanks!

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09-02-2019, 01:02 PM	#6
Doublestriker Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 86	If your card is a BGS 9.5 with a 9 sub grade In most cases its no better than a PSA 9 thats just my opinion. It does have a lot to do with which sub grade is a 9. Centering 9 is not as big of a deal when comparing.

09-02-2019, 01:03 PM	#7
HDooley33 Banned - PBM Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 23 arovaruoll0	I agree it’s a scam. But if the card really is pristine (not over graded, not altered) and its an older card (15+ years) it should be worth more than a 9 with some issues (Centering, corners). I know with all the grading fraud going accurate grades are questionable to say the least.

09-02-2019, 01:07 PM	#8
HDooley33 Banned - PBM Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 23 arovaruoll0	Out of all subgrades, I think edges carries the least weight. I consider a 9.5 with 9 edges to be a gem card. I’ve seen PSA 9s have terrible Centering. I know it’s all subjective. Matters what the card looks like to the owner. Some flaws bother some, some don’t.

09-02-2019, 01:10 PM	#9
hollywood hogan Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Posts: 769 auctiondan61	why do folks consider subgrades scamming? serious question because I actually really appreciate the added detail that a subgrade provides

09-02-2019, 02:55 PM	#20
HDooley33 Banned - PBM Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 23 arovaruoll0	Does anyone have an answer for the original question? 1.5x more?

09-02-2019, 11:57 PM	#22
jbettis32 Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: HK Posts: 725 jbettis32	If a 9.5 Gem with one 9 sub-grade compares to a non sub-grade Gem 9.5, which one you will pay for more?

09-03-2019, 11:58 AM	#23
HDooley33 Banned - PBM Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 23 arovaruoll0	Personally, I think importance is (Centering/Corners, Surface, Edges)

09-03-2019, 12:28 PM	#24
KeenanRIVALS Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 997	I wrote an entire blog post on this if you guys care to check it out. https://medium.com/@KeenanRIVALS/why...s-3eebbf63192c