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lklopfenstein · 11-25-2020, 03:53 PM

Who needs burrow when Brandon Allen is starting from the practice squad

JeremyNick · 11-25-2020, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by kyle1707

It’s awful

But he’s a qb that does not run .. I get the plant leg thing

It’s going to take a year.

But I would be shocked if he was not back playing well next year

I’m not concerned about his career being over or him being awful

I’m buying silver Phoenix and mosaic today

I don’t know. Bad team, brutal knee injury 2/3 of the way into his rookie season. It’s too early to say anything about Burrow other than he looked good at times.

That’s not enough to base any projections on.

CanadianKid · 11-25-2020, 08:24 PM

Mickey Mantle had a good career....its al I got.

Yikes · 11-25-2020, 10:23 PM

Such a shame.

He was definitely a shoe-in for ROY consideration.

As of right now, I think he has a leg up over the competition.

Wait...wut?

carlo16 · 11-26-2020, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt24

Isn't every torn acl for a QB on the plant leg? Brady, Palmer(twice), Bridgewater, Watson(Left Knee at Clemson, he tore the right knee in Houston).

Palmer actually tore acle, mcl, meniscus, and had cartilage damage. I remember hearing way back that they thought his career was over and he ended up back in time for the preseason and that injury happened in the playoffs. Surely surgery/rehab is a bit better 15 years later. Seems super minimal to me that Burrow's career is over.

Meniscus and cartilage damage?

oldgoldy97 · 11-26-2020, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by carlo16

Meniscus and cartilage damage?

Yeah, he’s pretty much mangled.

Yikes · 11-26-2020, 10:58 AM

**Herbert is carving up the Thanksgiving Day turkey**

Herbert: “Man, this looks delicious! Hey Joe, leg or breast?”

Joe:

kyle1707 · 11-26-2020, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JeremyNick

I don’t know. Bad team, brutal knee injury 2/3 of the way into his rookie season. It’s too early to say anything about Burrow other than he looked good at times.

That’s not enough to base any projections on.

He will be fine ... might take a year.

But he can play 18 years

Acl mcl full knee replacements. Happen every day

It’s not like he is a RB or WR or nba player

Not worried. I will buy all off season.

n1nesports · 11-26-2020, 04:04 PM

This year was such a big disappointment for injuries in the NFL, it got me to the point of just tuning out of football, so many players I was hyped for hit the sidelines.

PokeyAndG · 11-26-2020, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by kyle1707

He will be fine ... might take a year.

But he can play 18 years

Acl mcl full knee replacements. Happen every day

It’s not like he is a RB or WR or nba player

Not worried. I will buy all off season.

Indeed. Back in the days, John Elway played his entire football career without an ACL.

oaklandasfan · 11-26-2020, 05:58 PM

Dont panick hell be back in three years

JeremyNick · 11-26-2020, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by kyle1707

He will be fine ... might take a year.

But he can play 18 years

Acl mcl full knee replacements. Happen every day

It’s not like he is a RB or WR or nba player

Not worried. I will buy all off season.

I’m talking the totality of the situation.

He’s about to turn 24. He’s plays for a very bad franchise with a very bad Oline. He had almost no rookie offseason and no preseason. He played 10 games total before a brutal knee injury. He will have minimal offseason next year and probably limited training camp/preseason as well.

Then what? He comes back to the same bad franchise and poor Oline in year two.

PokeyAndG · 11-26-2020, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JeremyNick

I’m talking the totality of the situation.

He’s about to turn 24. He’s plays for a very bad franchise with a very bad Oline. He had almost no rookie offseason and no preseason. He played 10 games total before a brutal knee injury. He will have minimal offseason next year and probably limited training camp/preseason as well.

Then what? He comes back to the same bad franchise and poor Oline in year two.

Hopefully this will finally wake up the organization but I doubt it. If they are serious about protecting Burrow there will be a massive and thorough spring cleaning during the offseason.

tjforce · 11-26-2020, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by PokeyAndG

Hopefully this will finally wake up the organization but I doubt it. If they are serious about protecting Burrow there will be a massive and thorough spring cleaning during the offseason.

That's great in theory... but they can't just magically create 5 good offensive linemen out of thin air...

Sure, they can do what they can in free agency, but not many top guys are usually out there, and if they are it's not cheap to go get them.

kyle1707 · 11-26-2020, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by JeremyNick

I’m talking the totality of the situation.

He’s about to turn 24. He’s plays for a very bad franchise with a very bad Oline. He had almost no rookie offseason and no preseason. He played 10 games total before a brutal knee injury. He will have minimal offseason next year and probably limited training camp/preseason as well.

Then what? He comes back to the same bad franchise and poor Oline in year two.

I get it. For sure

But colts sucked for ever they got manning
Kc never could win big game they got mahomes
Etc

I think a guy like burrow can change the whole culture

Archangel1775 · 11-26-2020, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JeremyNick

I’m talking the totality of the situation.

He’s about to turn 24. He’s plays for a very bad franchise with a very bad Oline. He had almost no rookie offseason and no preseason. He played 10 games total before a brutal knee injury. He will have minimal offseason next year and probably limited training camp/preseason as well.

Then what? He comes back to the same bad franchise and poor Oline in year two.

Age isn't that important in the NFL particularly at the QB position. He can still play for another 15 years. All he needs is a 5 year run of elite play with a Championship and then average play the rest of the way to be an ATG

Metalbreath · 11-26-2020, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by kyle1707

He will be fine ... might take a year.

But he can play 18 years

Acl mcl full knee replacements. Happen every day

It’s not like he is a RB or WR or nba player

Not worried. I will buy all off season.

Tend to always agree with this fella..

rman112 · 11-26-2020, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Archangel1775

Age isn't that important in the NFL particularly at the QB position. He can still play for another 15 years. All he needs is a 5 year run of elite play with a Championship and then average play the rest of the way to be an ATG

25 is the new 60. See: Randy Arozarena.

PokeyAndG · 11-26-2020, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by tjforce

That's great in theory... but they can't just magically create 5 good offensive linemen out of thin air...

Sure, they can do what they can in free agency, but not many top guys are usually out there, and if they are it's not cheap to go get them.

I'd probably do away with the current head coach first. Maybe get Jason Garrett, someone with experience as an nfl head coach.

tjforce · 11-27-2020, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by PokeyAndG

I'd probably do away with the current head coach first. Maybe get Jason Garrett, someone with experience as an nfl head coach.

Sure... but the Bungles are years away from contention with Baltimore, Pittsburgh, and even Cleveland in that division. I'll be shocked if it's a quick turnaround.

PokeyAndG · 11-27-2020, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by tjforce

Sure... but the Bungles are years away from contention with Baltimore, Pittsburgh, and even Cleveland in that division. I'll be shocked if it's a quick turnaround.

Baltimore is not quite effective as they once were, I doubt they even make the playoffs this year. As for Pittsburgh, it's gonna be hard to replace Big Ben when he retires. I don't think this is division as tough as everyone makes it out to be, in a few years.

mc1 · 11-27-2020, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by PokeyAndG

Baltimore is not quite effective as they once were, I doubt they even make the playoffs this year. As for Pittsburgh, it's gonna be hard to replace Big Ben when he retires. I don't think this is division as tough as everyone makes it out to be, in a few years.

They have a couple bad games in a row and suddenly theyre done?!

PokeyAndG · 11-27-2020, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by mc1

They have a couple bad games in a row and suddenly theyre done?!

defense is still stellar, but coordinators are starting to figure that offense out. And you know Lamar is no Mahomes, he can't bring your team back from behind.

tjforce · 11-27-2020, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by PokeyAndG

Baltimore is not quite effective as they once were, I doubt they even make the playoffs this year. As for Pittsburgh, it's gonna be hard to replace Big Ben when he retires. I don't think this is division as tough as everyone makes it out to be, in a few years.

I'm not talking about offense as much.... it's been about a 20 year span the the Ravens and Steelers have had top defenses in the league.

Can't imagine that's going to just fade away all of the sudden.

Archangel1775 · 11-27-2020, 01:47 PM

They need to draft Penei Sewell. The young man is a beast and will attempt to prove it every day. They they need to sign Trent Williams, Russell Okung and/or Mike Pouncey to give them veteran leadership and immediate legitimacy. They should sign two of them but if they dont sign any, aside from a failed physical, they just dont care

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lklopfenstein Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Florida Posts: 1,070	Who needs burrow when Brandon Allen is starting from the practice squad

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Yikes Member Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: NY Posts: 125	Such a shame. He was definitely a shoe-in for ROY consideration. As of right now, I think he has a leg up over the competition. Wait...wut?

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