NBA Top Shot - High Risk, High Reward?

[grade]

Originally Posted by rifleman69

But you wouldn't know about the crypto history since you've only been in it for maybe 3 weeks right?

Unlike many penny pickers posting here. i actually read and try to use what everyone post to understand why they do it.

The only fools here are the ones posting about what they personally think as being how the whole world thinks and operates.


Another reason i took crypto more serious is because what i saw being posted in this thread. If fools can make money in crypto, it must be a good investment.

[Jamesebee]

Who wants to Nab a Top Shot?

www.nabatopshot.com is a great way to give those in need a "Moment" of hope. That domain (purchased and permalinked by me to the American Red Cross donation page) is reservation-free, ready to accept your contributions, and really makes a difference. (BO Admins: I'm offering philanthropy as an olive branch and as a source of humorous generosity/parody for the thread. Not trying to self-promote here.)

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It's uncouth to draw battle lines over fundamental personal preferences. But it's fun to explore the possibilities of what's available. If the time waiting for the next drop has become intolerable, why spend it on TopShot at all? Why not put it towards a good cause?

Because: we as individuals get to choose. Choice is a powerful thing! Dapper/TopShot make their choices, and we can also choose to be creative about how we support its' growth or disarm its' capabilities. But we do have a say in the matter.

[grade]

Originally Posted by whodatbeastly16

Or at the minimum, the investment side comes second to the joy I get from the hobby. Can you say the same for anyone using Topshot?

it is honestly very enjoying. If a parent where to open a account for their kid and just put $100 in (similar to a toy price) and tell the kid it is a game not real money. It would be a great game the kid would be interested in for a long time.

I get more pissed off at USPS,Fedex,UPS,Panini,topps,PSA,BGS and CGC to be honest.

[rifleman69]

Originally Posted by Brobocop

Christmas 2023.

True, I didn't say which Christmas but you may be on to something here.

[rifleman69]

Originally Posted by grade

Unlike many penny pickers posting here. i actually read and try to use what everyone post to understand why they do it.

The only fools here are the ones posting about what they personally think as being how the whole world thinks and operates.


Another reason i took crypto more serious is because what i saw being posted in this thread. If fools can make money in crypto, it must be a good investment.

But you didn't read up on mining BTC from your laptop first? Seems awfully suspect.

[Seven Costanza]

all these strong opinions

[rifleman69]

Originally Posted by Jamesebee

Who wants to Nab a Top Shot?

www.nabatopshot.com is a great way to give those in need a "Moment" of hope. That domain (purchased and permalinked by me to the American Red Cross donation page) is reservation-free, ready to accept your contributions, and really makes a difference. (BO Admins: I'm offering philanthropy as an olive branch and as a source of humorous generosity/parody for the thread. Not trying to self-promote here.)

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It's uncouth to draw battle lines over fundamental personal preferences. But it's fun to explore the possibilities of what's available. If the time waiting for the next drop has become intolerable, why spend it on TopShot at all? Why not put it towards a good cause?

Because: we as individuals get to choose. Choice is a powerful thing! Dapper/TopShot make their choices, and we can also choose to be creative about how we support its' growth or disarm its' capabilities. But we do have a say in the matter.

Surprised that Dapper didn't even snatch up that website to begin with....

[Vinny1984]

Life is a a lot easier when you realize you’re not the smartest guy in the room. Glad I got that one figured out.

[Archangel1775]

Originally Posted by whodatbeastly16

Or at the minimum, the investment side comes second to the joy I get from the hobby. Can you say the same for anyone using Topshot?

I enjoy Top Shot. It's a different way of enjoying the hobby. Sure, it's not cardboard but with the lack of affordable unopened, I decided to explore the site. I started by purchasing a few packs. Then went back to explore the site again and would crack a few more. I ended up breaking over 50 series 1 packs. The video clips where its and empty stadium are my favorite.

[Archangel1775]

Also, it amazes me how passionately against NBA Top Shot certain members are and just keep coming here daily, sometimes hourly, to seemingly remind just yourself and like-minded members the same regurgitated crap. Ya'all sound like broken records. Really ask yourself why you keep doing it. Does it give you fulfillment or meaning? Do you feel like you're protecting the world? The more I think about it, maybe you are? Yeah, I'd like to go ahead and start an honorary club for you guys. The Blowout Police Agency. I'll ask Houdini to put "BOPA" under your names.

[GeechQuest]

Originally Posted by Archangel1775

Also, it amazes me how passionately against NBA Top Shot certain members are and just keep coming here daily, sometimes hourly, to seemingly remind just yourself and like-minded members the same regurgitated crap. Ya'all sound like broken records. Really ask yourself why you keep doing it. Does it give you fulfillment or meaning? Do you feel like you're protecting the world? The more I think about it, maybe you are? Yeah, I'd like to go ahead and start an honorary club for you guys. The Blowout Police Agency. I'll ask Houdini to put "BOPA" under your names.

You mistake trying to educate people on "scams" (quotes because NBATS isn't necessarily a scam, but it's completely NOT transparent like they claim) as passionately against members.

Take this and go drop the same response in the Haiku thread.

These "scams" exist because people don't think.

[UGLI baby]

Originally Posted by GeechQuest

(I will sell the above to you for $2 as it's just a common).

IYKNY. How many P2020 millionaires did we have again? How many NBATS millionaires are here? The money flowing in and out of the site I'd expect someone to have an easy 6 figure bankroll at this juncture, not that they'd be able to get the money anyway because of "KYC" issues , yet I haven't found one (and I check the discord to laugh occasionally).

Comparing TopShot to P2020 is the weirdest thing in the world.

Did art cards really hurt you this bad bro?

[GeechQuest]

Originally Posted by UGLI baby

Comparing TopShot to P2020 is the weirdest thing in the world.

Did art cards really hurt you this bad bro?

It's attracted the same set of people. It's not a comparison in the product itself but the crowd. Paper millionaires. I get the same entertainment value with $0 spent.

No it didn't, I've been able to fill the collection under MSRP (Wheeler Dealers pricing) just like I said I would.

Why do you care? I find it sad, but I'm not the one overpaying for this stuff.

[colbycolbycolby]

Originally Posted by colbycolbycolby

I actually think NBA Top Shots will be HUGE for physical cards when it all inevitably comes crashing down. Bitcoin is finite, gold and silver is finite, Lebron/Jordan RC are finite. A weekly release of new gifs is akin to the US Dollar printing press. This is blockchain, yes. But it's not real scarcity. This is doomed if tens of thousands of gifs are released to the public each week. When supply goes up, demand goes down.

Whales are scooping up Lebron TC like candy- not this carp. Whales have money because they can see through scams like this. They didn't get rich by doing what everybody else did. The majority of people pumping this on Blowout have had an account less than a year. They were late to the card game, can't afford blue chips, so they see this as their way to get rich. And it ain't gonna happen. I feel bad for them.

These aren't cards. These are future bad decisions. And as such, they don't belong on the basketball card forum.

Originally Posted by colbycolbycolby

Just hate to see people with broken english and a Blowout account less than six months old get roped into an obvious cash grab, pump-n-dump scheme. That's why I wrote a heart-felt message to grade to be careful. I also told him to keep it going if that's what he wants. I really do wish everybody luck, but I also can't wait to be the I-told-you-so guy in a few years. I guess we will sit back and see. This is blockchain, yes. But this isn't finite Bitcoin or other crypto.

This will be my last post in this thread. And I truly want everybody to know- I hope it goes well for you. Don't view my skepticism as hate. I love all y'all. Just please, for the love of god, don't put everything in this.

Originally Posted by colbycolbycolby

It's like seeing people sell MLM stuff on your Facebook. Monat, thrive, ItWorks! All the boss babes. You should ignore them, but you can't help to take a moment and read the caption and see the emojis. You feel sorry for them, but at the same time you can't wait until they realize the road they've gone down and they start to shut the fukc up about it. Same with this crew of pumpers hawking a Trevor Ariza /9000 gif of a layup. The time will come. And I will bump this daily.

Wait, is it already time?!

[rifleman69]

Originally Posted by Archangel1775

Also, it amazes me how passionately against NBA Top Shot certain members are and just keep coming here daily, sometimes hourly, to seemingly remind just yourself and like-minded members the same regurgitated crap. Ya'all sound like broken records. Really ask yourself why you keep doing it. Does it give you fulfillment or meaning? Do you feel like you're protecting the world? The more I think about it, maybe you are? Yeah, I'd like to go ahead and start an honorary club for you guys. The Blowout Police Agency. I'll ask Houdini to put "BOPA" under your names.

I wonder why we sound like broken records, maybe because we've seen this before?

[UGLI baby]

Originally Posted by GeechQuest

It's attracted the same set of people. It's not a comparison in the product itself but the crowd. Paper millionaires. I get the same entertainment value with $0 spent.

No it didn't, I've been able to fill the collection under MSRP (Wheeler Dealers pricing) just like I said I would.

Why do you care? I find it sad, but I'm not the one overpaying for this stuff.

You are completely clueless about what is happening with Topshot. It's crazy to see someone operating in the dark, totally out of their element, but happy to be the loudest voice telling people about it.

Also, I believe your claim was that you could get any P2020 card for less than MSRP within a year, including cards that are currently selling for $100's. If your patting yourself on the back that Wheeler sold you cards, that's a big head scratcher.

You are *technically* wrong about P2020, but you are epically, embarrassingly wrong about TopShot.

[jcardstore]

Originally Posted by UGLI baby

You are completely clueless about what is happening with Topshot. It's crazy to see someone operating in the dark, totally out of their element, but happy to be the loudest voice telling people about it.

Also, I believe your claim was that you could get any P2020 card for less than MSRP within a year, including cards that are currently selling for $100's. If your patting yourself on the back that Wheeler sold you cards, that's a big head scratcher.

You are *technically* wrong about P2020, but you are epically, embarrassingly wrong about TopShot.

Break down what's happening with topshot for us dummies

[Zacy87]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

Break down what's happening with topshot for us dummies

Deposit $10

Turn $10 into $25000

Keep $25000 in account until you can withdraw

Never able to withdraw

Keep telling people you've made 250 x your initial deposit though

[GeechQuest]

Originally Posted by UGLI baby

You are completely clueless about what is happening with Topshot. It's crazy to see someone operating in the dark, totally out of their element, but happy to be the loudest voice telling people about it.

Also, I believe your claim was that you could get any P2020 card for less than MSRP within a year, including cards that are currently selling for $100's. If your patting yourself on the back that Wheeler sold you cards, that's a big head scratcher.

You are *technically* wrong about P2020, but you are epically, embarrassingly wrong about TopShot.

Nah brah, definitely said the set as a whole. Here's one of many quotes that went over your head apparently. I can quote others it you'd like. Why are you selling P2020? You loved the set and it totally wasn't about the money if I recall. Yikes.

Explain NBATS to us morons who don't have a clue. I'd love the lesson and to understand why nobody can pull money after WEEKS. Totally legit business, not at all taking your money. My brokerage holds funds for weeks on end too! It's normal in the industry.

Originally Posted by GeechQuest

To complete the set I’d have to set aside $7K for the year to do so at MSRP.

Rather than worry about the ups and downs on the market, rather than making sure I set aside $7K of my hobby money to make sure I complete it, I’ll just pick it up down the line.

I’ve yet to see a set in the hobby that I couldn’t pick up cheaper in total than buying the sum of the parts individually.

As it stands there are a total of 1065 total sets that could potentially be made (honestly lower than I thought when the product was announced). I’m confident the set will be worth less than MSRP in 5 years.

If it’s like any of the other print to demand sets, the money makers will have bought multiple to free ride sets. They’ll have made their money during the process and be less concerned about making top-dollar on the set (my LCS is ordering in batches of 20 and has done this with every print on demand set since eTopps). They’ll be available.

Essentially, I didn’t want to commit $7K from the jump. If I’m wrong and have to buy a set for $10K down the road that’s alright as well. I doubt I’ll have to though. I suspect most cards from here on out will have negative equity on the set as a whole, so even if the Ermsy Torut is “x” over MSRP, the vast majority will sell for less than MSRP long term and bring the sum of the parts down.

I could be wrong. I would have bet my life that no card from this set would have reached $1K, let alone multiple cards surpassing that and some shooting over $1K like it’s nothing. I’ve been wrong a bunch in my life.

[jcardstore]

Originally Posted by Zacy87

Deposit $10

Turn $10 into $25000

Keep $25000 in account until you can withdraw

Never able to withdraw

Keep telling people you've made 250 x your initial deposit though

you forgot the part about becoming a crypto expert simply by trading gifs and telling everyone else about it

[Zacy87]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

you forgot the part about becoming a crypto expert simply by trading gifs and telling everyone else about it

Damnit, I knew I was missing an important step

[UGLI baby]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

Break down what's happening with topshot for us dummies

It's groundbreaking in the NFT space. This is the first NFT project that is breaking into the mainstream. The hurdles that TopShot has already cleared are massive, and it's done what other projects haven't been able to do (operating on the Flow blockchain is one of the biggest hurdles cleared). There are more hurdles to clear, but anyone in the know will tell you TS is light years ahead of where anyone thought it would be right now, and it is a little bit of a victim of it's own success right now.

You can look on cryptoslam and see the all time sales of other NFT projects to get an idea of what TS means to that space. The fact "regular" people know about it is a really big deal to NFT people.

The momentum this already has is the dream of every NFT project before it.

If you have an open mind, stop for a second and realize there is a vibrant community of people who collect NFT's just like there is a vibrant community on blowout forums. This is a very big deal to that community, and sorry but none of you guys here have ANY idea what you are talking about and I cannot stress that enough.

[Zacy87]

Originally Posted by UGLI baby

It's groundbreaking in the NFT space. This is the first NFT project that is breaking into the mainstream. The hurdles that TopShot has already cleared are massive, and it's done what other projects haven't been able to do (operating on the Flow blockchain is one of the biggest hurdles cleared). There are more hurdles to clear, but anyone in the know will tell you TS is light years ahead of where anyone thought it would be right now, and it is a little bit of a victim of it's own success right now.

You can look on cryptoslam and see the all time sales of other NFT projects to get an idea of what TS means to that space. The fact "regular" people know about it is a really big deal to NFT people.

The momentum this already has is the dream of every NFT project before it.

If you have an open mind, stop for a second and realize there is a vibrant community of people who collect NFT's just like there is a vibrant community on blowout forums. This is a very big deal to that community, and sorry but none of you guys here have ANY idea what you are talking about and I cannot stress that enough.

And what about not being able to withdraw funds? Is that groundbreaking too?

[GeechQuest]

Originally Posted by Zacy87

And what about not being able to withdraw funds? Is that groundbreaking too?

No, that's been around before. I have a Haiku about it for any new members who are unaware.

[Zacy87]

Originally Posted by GeechQuest

No, that's been around before. I have a Haiku about it for any new members who are unaware.

97% of members won't understand that lol