Nolan Arenado Thread

[66_Fiat]

Nolan is still primed for a 35HR/100R/110RBI season with a matching slash line (+/- 5%).

The errors at 3B this year are weird based on his typical level of play defensively, but could be based on a new field/team?

I haven't watched, except for one play he should have not gotten an error against a hard (110mph+) out of range ball he tapped with his glove.

[rman112]

Was he this streaky in CO?

[fabiani12333]

Originally Posted by 66_Fiat

Nolan is still primed for a 35HR/100R/110RBI season with a matching slash line (+/- 5%).

The errors at 3B this year are weird based on his typical level of play defensively, but could be based on a new field/team?

I haven't watched, except for one play he should have not gotten an error against a hard (110mph+) out of range ball he tapped with his glove.

4 errors at home -- 2 in a game against the Cubs -- 3 on the road.

Statcast says he's had defensive problems on balls hit the 3B side and against left-handed hitters.

[rman112]

He's been in a pretty heavy downspin.

Since he got hot in mid-May to get up to .307, he's hit .219 since then - in 42 games.

What's interesting is that the .264 he's at now is what his splits were with Colorado away from Coors.

[Silent George]

Originally Posted by rman112

He's been in a pretty heavy downspin.

Since he got hot in mid-May to get up to .307, he's hit .219 since then - in 42 games.

What's interesting is that the .264 he's at now is what his splits were with Colorado away from Coors.

In batting average only. With no context. His OPS is 25ish points above his career road mark, and that's in a down offensive year. Indeed, take any weighted statistic, ops+ wRC+ and you'll see he's right in line with career averages. Considering he's an aging player, and you'd have to conclude he's actually doing extremely well at the plate.

He's had a wonky defensive season. Fangraphs wrote an article exploring why his numbers were down a few weeks ago. Since then, he's played about 12 games, and his defensive metrics have shot up.

Arenado is fine.

[DioBrando]

Going to interesting to see if he opts out after this year or not. I think he can after this year and next. Cardinals have been pretty horrible lately

[rman112]

Originally Posted by Silent George

In batting average only. With no context. His OPS is 25ish points above his career road mark, and that's in a down offensive year. Indeed, take any weighted statistic, ops+ wRC+ and you'll see he's right in line with career averages. Considering he's an aging player, and you'd have to conclude he's actually doing extremely well at the plate.

He's had a wonky defensive season. Fangraphs wrote an article exploring why his numbers were down a few weeks ago. Since then, he's played about 12 games, and his defensive metrics have shot up.

Arenado is fine.

He's 30..

His average and on-base now EXACTLY match his career on the road - .264, .321. Slugging, OPS slightly higher.

His numbers outside of batting average during the 42 game stretch are .279 on-base, .413 slugging, .692 OPS. That's over 1/4 of the season's worth of some really poor production.

He's actually performed worse since the substance lockdown. So while offense was down, he was up. While offense is jumping, he's been sliding.

[rngrdanny22]

Let's bring a little positivity into the thread...

[Silent George]

Nice card. 2013 Update is the only flagship release I haven't gotten a hobby box of since 2010. Oops. So I'm still in need of the Nolan.

[rman112]

Clearly read this thread pregame.

[Silent George]

.272/.327/.515/.842 just days later (at this moment), in a pitcher's year, with a wRC+ 8 points above his career average. May we all do our jobs this poorly.

As I said, Arenado is fine.

[rman112]

Originally Posted by Silent George

.272/.327/.515/.842 just days later (at this moment), in a pitcher's year, with a wRC+ 8 points above his career average. May we all do our jobs this poorly.

As I said, Arenado is fine.

I think it all comes down to expectations. If you were to say before the year that Arenado was hitting .272 with a .327 on-base, I think that would be a disappointment to many.

It's so hard to predict what career Rockies will do elsewhere. I remember an Arenado discussion a few years back, and the idea of him being more of a .265-.270 hitter overall (to match closer to his road numbers) didn't get too well of a reception.

Maybe he ends up closer to the .293 and .349 that are his career Rockie numbers. He's had such an odd season as is.

[Silent George]

In 2016 he had a 126 wRC+

41 HR 133 RBI .293 Avg

He went from THE hitters park, to a pretty extreme pitchers park, in one of the most extreme pitcher's years we've ever seen.

But yeah, mostly this is people looking at raw numbers and not realizing the dramatic amount of context needed to put them in proper perspective.

Bottom line, Arenado is a HOF quality player from an astounding glove, and a very good bat - and he still has an astounding glove and a very good bat once you put things in context and forget about early season small sample sizes.

[rman112]

Originally Posted by Silent George

In 2016 he had a 126 wRC+

41 HR 133 RBI .293 Avg

He went from THE hitters park, to a pretty extreme pitchers park, in one of the most extreme pitcher's years we've ever seen.

But yeah, mostly this is people looking at raw numbers and not realizing the dramatic amount of context needed to put them in proper perspective.

Bottom line, Arenado is a HOF quality player from an astounding glove, and a very good bat - and he still has an astounding glove and a very good bat once you put things in context and forget about early season small sample sizes.

The Cardinals have had some serious offensive problems this year. While STL sure as hell isn't Coors Field, I don't know that it's fair to point at park only, either. For example, Arenado home/away this year is not much of a difference. He's gotten hot this series in one of the best pitcher's parks in the game. He has been really, really streaky overall.

While it's true that it's a small sample size, it's the only sample size for a guy that has only played in THE hitter's park, like you said.

Do you think average matters? That might be a disconnect. To me, it does. Not just for Arenado, but for anybody. He's about 50th in average so far, 80th in on-base, and 25th in slugging.

[rseve43]

Bumping this up because dude is on pace for .625/81/405 this year after two games. Guessing he will finish higher than that but it’s at least a start

[clocsta2323]

Arenado is gonna win the MVP. Top 5 more than anyone else worth a damn

[rngrdanny22]

I'd say he's off to a RED hot start...

[clocsta2323]

Originally Posted by rngrdanny22

I'd say he's off to a RED hot start...

People want Franco and they forget about Nado.


I love the idiots

[HOFAutoRookies]

Anyone have any signed 2010 BC plates?

[BigSlim16]

It’s a shame he can’t play against the Pirates every game

[BigSlim16]

It’s a shame he can’t play against the Pirates every game

[rseve43]

NL player of the week

[rman112]

Originally Posted by rseve43

NL player of the week

It's the hair. Good back flow to start the year.

[corockies]

Originally Posted by corockies

I wonder if the owner of the 2016 Update AS Arenado SSSP Truck hangs around Blowout... I still believe that card is a 1/1, have never seen any other copies.

(Not my card, I kept a picture of it.)

Re-bumping this. Still have never seen another of this card. Anyone out there ever found another copy?

[Silent George]

Week 2: 1-1 with a 2 run homer