2012 Jordan Fleer Retro Auto...Major help needed - Page 2

FinSoonerGMG · 12-13-2022, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by markmac33

Last pack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuPARqayRew

Thank you I also found this video but didn't see the part where they showed the back great help!

FinSoonerGMG · 12-13-2022, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Giroux

Good find. No congratulations on the back.

Thank you!

boxbuster7 · 12-13-2022, 12:17 PM

Oh man. I feel so bad for you reading about that dinged corner OP. What should have been a triumph just turned into a mess.

RAV2773 · 12-13-2022, 12:23 PM

Both types were inserted into packs and both types have been graded by Beckett in the past

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FinSoonerGMG · 12-13-2022, 12:39 PM

I will update everyone once I know what happens next. I’m going to talk to them this afternoon and have them grade it and then ask to refund the difference from the $155 I paid for “Express” back in July.

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FinSoonerGMG · 02-08-2023, 09:08 AM

Update: Word from my local shop (who I submitted this through to Beckett) is that BGS does not want to admit that they are wrong here and is looking at going into the market to buy back the cards they believe were graded incorrectly.

I am at a loss here. I pulled the card myself and every bit of evidence shows that it is in fact a pack pulled card.

the card is still with beckett and I am working to continue my fight...I know that PSA would most likely grade this card but i honestly don't know if I want to sink another 100+ into grading fees and now that it has a small ding in the corner, I know I'm looking at an 8 most likely.

Archangel1775 · 02-08-2023, 12:08 PM

Unfortunately, you've simply ran into a company grading standard that effects this card. Though the foil stamp does make it different, there isn't anything about the design of the stamp that says it's an autograph like "Topps Archives Signature Series" or "Donruss Recollection" in baseball. UD screwed up and you can't blame a grading company for having a policy regarding it. They do grade the autograph though. Maybe they'll adjust fire down the line.

FinSoonerGMG · 02-08-2023, 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archangel1775

Unfortunately, you've simply ran into a company grading standard that effects this card. Though the foil stamp does make it different, there isn't anything about the design of the stamp that says it's an autograph like "Topps Archives Signature Series" or "Donruss Recollection" in baseball. UD screwed up and you can't blame a grading company for having a policy regarding it. They do grade the autograph though. Maybe they'll adjust fire down the line.

except they seemingly graded every other card like mine.

either way at this point I just want some of my $ back or at least give me credit since i paid for express and it took FOREVER

FinSoonerGMG · 02-16-2023, 04:17 PM

So BGS isn't going to grade it. My shop is going to refund me (awesome of them) and so now i am at a cross roads in regards what to do next.

I'm not trying to flip the card or anything, but the idea of the value increase of grading + the idea of having it protected is why i went that rout.

Should I leave it in the BGS slab it's in or take the $150 refund and submit to psa to grade the card?

what do you guys think. I feel like if I leave it in the slab it almost devalues that it WAS IN FACT pack pulled.

Archangel1775 · 02-16-2023, 06:31 PM

Probably reach out to PSA to make sure they will grade it first.

Nutcracker33 · 02-16-2023, 09:11 PM

I never knew there are two versions of autographs in Fleer Retro, good to know

good luck in your grades

FinSoonerGMG · 02-17-2023, 09:30 AM

Funny neither does BGS lol even though they have graded them countless times.

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Originally Posted by Nutcracker33

I never knew there are two versions of autographs in Fleer Retro, good to know

good luck in your grades

12-13-2022, 12:17 PM	#28
boxbuster7 Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 12,775 boxbuster777	Oh man. I feel so bad for you reading about that dinged corner OP. What should have been a triumph just turned into a mess. __________________ Psa 9 > psa 10

02-08-2023, 12:08 PM	#32
Archangel1775 Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Cali baby! Posts: 21,878	Unfortunately, you've simply ran into a company grading standard that effects this card. Though the foil stamp does make it different, there isn't anything about the design of the stamp that says it's an autograph like "Topps Archives Signature Series" or "Donruss Recollection" in baseball. UD screwed up and you can't blame a grading company for having a policy regarding it. They do grade the autograph though. Maybe they'll adjust fire down the line. __________________ *There are the intangibles that set someone apart from the pack.So the blur isn't your inability to see his greatness, it's merely the inability to measure it.*

02-16-2023, 06:31 PM	#35
Archangel1775 Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Cali baby! Posts: 21,878	Probably reach out to PSA to make sure they will grade it first. __________________ *There are the intangibles that set someone apart from the pack.So the blur isn't your inability to see his greatness, it's merely the inability to measure it.*

12-13-2022, 12:23 PM	#29
RAV2773 Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: NJ Posts: 4,837 baseballking973	Both types were inserted into packs and both types have been graded by Beckett in the past Sent from my SM-S906U using Tapatalk

12-13-2022, 12:39 PM	#30
FinSoonerGMG Member Join Date: May 2021 Location: Carrollton TX Posts: 353	I will update everyone once I know what happens next. I’m going to talk to them this afternoon and have them grade it and then ask to refund the difference from the $155 I paid for “Express” back in July. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

02-08-2023, 09:08 AM	#31
FinSoonerGMG Member Join Date: May 2021 Location: Carrollton TX Posts: 353	Update: Word from my local shop (who I submitted this through to Beckett) is that BGS does not want to admit that they are wrong here and is looking at going into the market to buy back the cards they believe were graded incorrectly. I am at a loss here. I pulled the card myself and every bit of evidence shows that it is in fact a pack pulled card. the card is still with beckett and I am working to continue my fight...I know that PSA would most likely grade this card but i honestly don't know if I want to sink another 100+ into grading fees and now that it has a small ding in the corner, I know I'm looking at an 8 most likely.

02-16-2023, 04:17 PM	#34
FinSoonerGMG Member Join Date: May 2021 Location: Carrollton TX Posts: 353	So BGS isn't going to grade it. My shop is going to refund me (awesome of them) and so now i am at a cross roads in regards what to do next. I'm not trying to flip the card or anything, but the idea of the value increase of grading + the idea of having it protected is why i went that rout. Should I leave it in the BGS slab it's in or take the $150 refund and submit to psa to grade the card? what do you guys think. I feel like if I leave it in the slab it almost devalues that it WAS IN FACT pack pulled.

02-16-2023, 09:11 PM	#36
Nutcracker33 Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: HK Posts: 2,200 nutcracker33_cards nutcracker33	I never knew there are two versions of autographs in Fleer Retro, good to know good luck in your grades