2021 Topps Chrome Tennis

[autos4alex]

Originally Posted by Jagsfansunshine

I bought into 6 case breaks, targeting volynets in all cases, McNally in 3, and di maneur in 1 just bc they were cheap spots and younger decentish players. I tried buying a couple of fils spots and some of the older players but anything past 9 bucks felt too expensive. I felt lucky in beating the odds -- got 1 McNally auto/50, 1 Volynets rose gold auto /10, 1 Volynets blue refractor /50, and a half dozen refractors and clay court inserts.. Not much worth chasing so I'm stopping there. Besides the crappy checklist, the auto odds are pretty average at 4-6/case.

Where did you buy into the case breaks? I'm looking for about 15 autos out of the set and that seems like a fun way to go after them.

[LittleJimmies]

Originally Posted by autos4alex

Where did you buy into the case breaks? I'm looking for about 15 autos out of the set and that seems like a fun way to go after them.

Ebay I'm assuming. Chances are very low of hitting any specific auto, but also very low risk with most spots going in single digits.

[wubh]

Originally Posted by LittleJimmies

Ebay I'm assuming. Chances are very low of hitting any specific auto, but also very low risk with most spots going in single digits.

I haven’t crunched any math and only took a quick look at completed auctions but I wonder if breaks will dry up very soon as these look kinda brutal for breakers and they have a ton of product options to choose from, especially once they run through any cases that they may have preordered.

eBay will charge $.30 for each auction completed plus another ~10-15% of the final fee plus the time to sort, pack and ship everything so that adds up pretty quickly.

[Jagsfansunshine]

Originally Posted by autos4alex

Where did you buy into the case breaks? I'm looking for about 15 autos out of the set and that seems like a fun way to go after them.

Ebay - KOs-cardbreaks & Northof7. KOs-cardbreaks has a stiff delivery fee ($5) for the 1st player, but any additional player shipping fees are free/gets refunded. I had the most luck with Northof7... Like others said, the breaks may dry up sooner rather than later since spots are not generating much interest.

[Jagsfansunshine]

Originally Posted by wubh

I haven’t crunched any math and only took a quick look at completed auctions but I wonder if breaks will dry up very soon as these look kinda brutal for breakers and they have a ton of product options to choose from, especially once they run through any cases that they may have preordered.

eBay will charge $.30 for each auction completed plus another ~10-15% of the final fee plus the time to sort, pack and ship everything so that adds up pretty quickly.

I'm wondering how cheap the breakers got the cases in the 1st place. Even if wholesale was 50%, it's hard to see how they make money on this. Plus the breaks take close to an hour.

[MIRRABB]

Originally Posted by jduds

Glad I checked this thread before diving into a Lite box. Some nice looking cards but the checklist looks made for only tennis die-hards.

as someone who could be reasonably classified as a tennis die-hard, I am looking forward to ripping some, but only when the price drops a good amount more

[doobypenguin]

Originally Posted by LittleJimmies

Holy crap, last 2 hobby boxes auctioned in the $80's (+ $13 shipping). That was fast.

Where it should be but if the price will probably settle around 125
I like this product right now so i can grab michael chang stuff...

Cant imagine price point if fed joker nadal serena swiatek were in a future topps chrome product.

[LittleJimmies]

Originally Posted by mnvikingstwins

Couple later halep orange auto

Nice sale on the Halep.

[mnvikingstwins]

Originally Posted by LittleJimmies

Nice sale on the Halep.

Blows that I'll lose money on the case even with 3 of the top autos. Haven't sold a single base set

[Jagsfansunshine]

Originally Posted by mnvikingstwins

Blows that I'll lose money on the case even with 3 of the top autos. Haven't sold a single base set

Yeah, the fact that you need to hit a superftactor of a decent player to make money back is kind of nuts. At least your case was a good one . Their are some real ugly ones getting ripped

[LittleJimmies]

Originally Posted by Jagsfansunshine

Yeah, the fact that you need to hit a superftactor of a decent player to make money back is kind of nuts. At least your case was a good one . Their are some real ugly ones getting ripped

How many supers would even surpass $2k? Sampras auto might be the only I'd be 100% confident would get there. Evert, Billie Jean, either Martina have a good chance. At $2k a hobby case, I think literally 99% of cases are losers.

Edit: Fils would get there too. People have apparently decided to prospect with him since there's nothing better to do with this product.

[wwefawkes]

If anyone has a Martina Trevisan auto, let me know - collect all the Italian players

[Jagsfansunshine]

Originally Posted by LittleJimmies

How many supers would even surpass $2k? Sampras auto might be the only I'd be 100% confident would get there. Evert, Billie Jean, either Martina have a good chance. At $2k a hobby case, I think literally 99% of cases are losers.

Edit: Fils would get there too. People have apparently decided to prospect with him since there's nothing better to do with this product.

Coco and Emma too since people are in love... I was trying to crunch numbers based off of checklists and # of autos usually pulled in a case. I may be way off base here, but I believe there is around a 10% chance of pulling a super in a hobby case - auto or non-auto. I assumed at least half of the non-autos wind up in hobby rather than Lite... I'm coming up with somewhere between 1250-1400 hobby cases produced (no idea about lite). Anybody please correct me if this estimate seems totally off base.

[doobypenguin]

Just saw a raducanu auto numbered out of /199 instead /50? I guess they just got her to sign a lot as shes as people mentioned a huge draw. Also finally a breaker pulled a michael chang auto in a break for me. Hadnt seen any listed so i was getting worried

[LittleJimmies]

Originally Posted by doobypenguin

Just saw a raducanu auto numbered out of /199 instead /50? I guess they just got her to sign a lot as shes as people mentioned a huge draw. Also finally a breaker pulled a michael chang auto in a break for me. Hadnt seen any listed so i was getting worried

Congrats on the Chang! Very cool card. Post a pic when it comes in.

[Jagsfansunshine]

Originally Posted by doobypenguin

Just saw a raducanu auto numbered out of /199 instead /50? I guess they just got her to sign a lot as shes as people mentioned a huge draw. Also finally a breaker pulled a michael chang auto in a break for me. Hadnt seen any listed so i was getting worried

I saw that too. I guess Raducanu is the exception to the /50 listed for autos, which actually wasn't a bad move to throw people a bone.

And we'll done on the Chang auto

[149montblanc]

I was really looking forward to this release! Huge disappointment! How can you release such a mediocre product! Was looking forward to collecting the big 4 from this set! All 4 are missing! Just baffles me! Won’t be touch this product! No wonder it’s still available for purchase direct from the topps website!

[LittleJimmies]

Lite cases are down in the $400's now and looking like they'll dip into the $300's. There's enough in the checklist for real tennis fans at that price. No idea why hobby cases are holding on at $1700+.

[Jagsfansunshine]

Originally Posted by LittleJimmies

Lite cases are down in the $400's now and looking like they'll dip into the $300's. There's enough in the checklist for real tennis fans at that price. No idea why hobby cases are holding on at $1700+.

Dang that was fast. Haven't seen a Lite Case break, but I imagine it's similar -- only with maybe 1 auto vs 5 or 6

[wubh]

Originally Posted by LittleJimmies

Lite cases are down in the $400's now and looking like they'll dip into the $300's. There's enough in the checklist for real tennis fans at that price. No idea why hobby cases are holding on at $1700+.

For Blowout to drop Lite to $600 a case within a week of release means they literally may not have moved a single non-presell case (which I think was $800 at release?). I'm guessing they are still getting some action on hobby, hence the smaller cut.

I do a lot of soccer and a niche product like 2022 MLS Chrome debuted at $1000/hobby case but took much longer to drop to its current $600-$650 BO landing spot IIRC.

The biggest drop I can remember with a Lite product was 21/22 Bundesliga Chrome. I don't remember it's release price but it's been at $24/box on BO for 6+ months which is kinda crazy since it's cheaper than many blaster boxes.

[nickdrizzle]

If anyone is selling #'d Anett Kontaveit or auto, send me a dm. Looking to buy. Thanks

[Onepocketj]

I really hope Emma makes it back but man, this is her third big surgery. This one on both wrists and her ankle. Gonna be out for a while.

[mnvikingstwins]

Originally Posted by Onepocketj

I really hope Emma makes it back but man, this is her third big surgery. This one on both wrists and her ankle. Gonna be out for a while.

Only the left wrist looks to have much for recovery time she's been back on vacation and press tours for past week

[Onepocketj]

Originally Posted by mnvikingstwins

Only the left wrist looks to have much for recovery time she's been back on vacation and press tours for past week

Well she's already said she won't be playing any summer events including Wimbledon. Hopefully she recovers quickly

[DaveedTO]

Nice scar!