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Old 09-13-2023, 02:16 PM   #26
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The card of a 24-year-old non-star?

I'd just wait a decade or two and pick it up by trading some other "hot prospect." At 24 you are no longer really a prospect. And yeah nobody stays with one team anymore so if you're a team collector, even more reason to be patient.

I've knowingly overpaid before, but just for grails.
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Old 09-13-2023, 02:36 PM   #27
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As much as you may love Claxton, I'd avoid the overpay at the moment unless it's for the Claxton PC.

Assuming it's for the Nets PC, there's just far too much risk associated as 1) He's most likely going to get traded or leave in FA, and 2) There isn't any SIGNIFICANT upside to his cards to have you justify making such a big play on it. Are you okay with the card potentially becoming worthless? If not, avoid the deal.

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Old 09-13-2023, 02:37 PM   #28
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I would not overpay on that card when there are 100+ other copies that look nearly identical.
Totally, unless the patch is unique than I would overpay. At the same time, if it is for flipping, I wouldn't overpay. Only overpay if it a card you don't find in completed sales and isn't a parallel of many versions.
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Old 09-13-2023, 02:44 PM   #29
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If it is part of a set, and it is rare, and it's PC, I'm writing blank checks.
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Old 09-13-2023, 05:37 PM   #30
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Just the fact you’re asking this tells me it’s going to bug you after the fact.

Don’t do it.
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Old 09-13-2023, 07:08 PM   #31
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Just the fact you’re asking this tells me it’s going to bug you after the fact.

Don’t do it.
This is my advice also.

If it was a grail type card of someone that's cemented their legacy, go for it.

Claxton is nice, but the only way is down for his prices like 90% of the other unproven Rookies.

How much are we talking?

if it's $1000 it's not the end of the world if that card goes to $100.
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Old 09-13-2023, 08:05 PM   #32
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This is my advice also.

If it was a grail type card of someone that's cemented their legacy, go for it.

Claxton is nice, but the only way is down for his prices like 90% of the other unproven Rookies.

How much are we talking?

if it's $1000 it's not the end of the world if that card goes to $100.

It’s a lot. Only reason I’m hung up though is because I’m giving a lot of cool cards in the proposal. Idk whenever players move on there are cards I keep, vinyls 1/1s etc. this would be a keeper


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Old 09-13-2023, 08:06 PM   #33
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Just the fact you’re asking this tells me it’s going to bug you after the fact.

Don’t do it.

It’s mostly because I have such bad trades usually lol. Idk what it is but if I buy a card to sell I do well but all my trades in hindsight have been so so lopsided, probably because I think with my heart too much


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Old 09-13-2023, 08:07 PM   #34
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Totally, unless the patch is unique than I would overpay. At the same time, if it is for flipping, I wouldn't overpay. Only overpay if it a card you don't find in completed sales and isn't a parallel of many versions.

To be fair though the nets don’t have great patches, best you can get is a letter. Even the spurs have the spur to spice things up with the same black and white


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Old 09-13-2023, 08:07 PM   #35
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I would only overpay on Claxton if you are willing to let the card go to $0.

If it's truly for your PC and you have no intent to resell, it doesn't really matter what the overpay is UNLESS you can just buy one with cash instead.

Def can’t buy with cash, not at his price anyway. I don’t mind it from a value perspective it’s just I’d be giving up some really cool cards


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Old 09-14-2023, 02:23 AM   #36
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Def can’t buy with cash, not at his price anyway. I don’t mind it from a value perspective it’s just I’d be giving up some really cool cards


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If you have to give up that many cool cards, I wouldn't.
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Old 09-14-2023, 03:54 AM   #37
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depends on the card tbh

some of the things im missing (the few) are exceptionally rare 90s parallels that have such a wider buyer base than the player - set collectors, investors etc

its a pain in the ass but it is what it is.
if i never add another damon, im good with it.
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Old 09-14-2023, 07:47 AM   #38
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It’s mostly because I have such bad trades usually lol. Idk what it is but if I buy a card to sell I do well but all my trades in hindsight have been so so lopsided, probably because I think with my heart too much


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Yea, that’s why I think there’s a good chance you’ll regret this. I feel like you’re trying to get others to convince you to make a bad choice right as your senses are also trying to kick in and finally reverse the curse, lol.

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depends on the card tbh

some of the things im missing (the few) are exceptionally rare 90s parallels that have such a wider buyer base than the player - set collectors, investors etc

its a pain in the ass but it is what it is.
if i never add another damon, im good with it.
I feel your pain. I’m not there yet but I’m approaching this point with Penny. After another year or so I’m hoping to have most of his inserts/playing days autos, but there’s literally no shot I can dip my toe in the parallel pool. That’s where the line between collector and investor gets oh so blurry.

Then there’s the added challenge of not being able to fully trust comps at that level.

Maybe we should just buy counterfeit Star Rubies.
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Old 09-14-2023, 10:27 AM   #39
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by quite a lot, yes
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Old 09-14-2023, 10:52 AM   #40
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overpay? $0
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Old 09-14-2023, 07:25 PM   #41
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I wouldn't do it simply because I doubt he's part of their long term future but maybe I'm wrong
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Old 09-15-2023, 09:33 PM   #42
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Never, I like seeing sellers take L's
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Old 09-15-2023, 09:34 PM   #43
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Yea, that’s why I think there’s a good chance you’ll regret this. I feel like you’re trying to get others to convince you to make a bad choice right as your senses are also trying to kick in and finally reverse the curse, lol.



I feel your pain. I’m not there yet but I’m approaching this point with Penny. After another year or so I’m hoping to have most of his inserts/playing days autos, but there’s literally no shot I can dip my toe in the parallel pool. That’s where the line between collector and investor gets oh so blurry.

Then there’s the added challenge of not being able to fully trust comps at that level.

Maybe we should just buy counterfeit Star Rubies.

What can I say I’m just a collector in a world of hobby investors lol but yeah you’re more or less right


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Old 09-15-2023, 10:00 PM   #44
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I overpaid by about $1500 on a /10 rookie of my PC player that I just had to have. Dude would not budge. I stared at it and tried to haggle for months.
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Old 09-16-2023, 06:54 AM   #45
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If you made this thread instead of just making the trade right away… that’s your subconscious trying to get you to not do it. Hold off for now, that card is most likely not going anywhere and may be available at a lower price soon. Then you’ll have a PC grail without the nagging doubt.
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Old 09-17-2023, 05:22 PM   #46
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What can I say I’m just a collector in a world of hobby investors lol but yeah you’re more or less right


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Old 09-20-2023, 10:08 PM   #47
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if i never add another damon, im good with it.
Wow that is a statement! I cannot say the same. I have a collection budget and if cards dried up, I think I’d still use up my budget in some way… either by “overpaying” for cards that are on my watch list, grading, breaking boxes to hunt needs (which is the same as overpaying), IP autograph sessions, travel to large card shows, etc.
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Old 09-21-2023, 02:04 PM   #48
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yeah, we're so limited with options here in NZ. It'd be cool to have shows to go to tho!

also, just to clarify - the list of cards missing (PMG Green etc) are so rare and never really turn up so im kind of just expecting that to remain as time goes on and set collectors hide away my cards :P

also, probably like Ron, Damon isnt in a whole lot of releases now and that's likely to get even lower as well over time.

I also collect a bunch of other things, so the money hasnt stopped leaving the wallet, its just going into other things
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