Patrick Mahomes Prices

[jacksonjj]

Originally Posted by Bosoxfan5990

Were KC/Mahomes fans ever nervous last night?

I feel like it was one of those games you knew they were going to pull out in the end somehow. As a Patriots fan, I always felt like they would come out ahead in those back and forth games (except Super Bowl LII).

Heart was pounding the entire 2nd half, couldn't look at text messages, knew Mahomes would have to play perfect to win and that's exactly what he did. Absolutely perfect game on the road in the cold!

The difference in the game was that Josh missed a couple plays where Mahomes made them. Missed wide open receiver in the end zone, and on the final drive on 3rd down before the field goal, he scrambled to the right and couldn't connect. That would've been a game swinger.

Mahomes was perfect and Allen was just short of perfect. He should've ran more in the 4th qtr. The Chiefs D couldn't stop that, but he decided to keep throwing. And throwing vs. Mahomes we saw what happened.

[Rabs]

I was actually hoping the Bills would tie it up and then Mahomes would have the chance for another game winning late drive to seal the W.

But either way a big win.

Ravens defense is better than the Bills so I expect the Chiefs offense to not look as good as they did yesterday. MVS did show up for a change though.

[Bosoxfan5990]

Originally Posted by Onepocketj

Last year I wouldn't have been. This year has been more of a struggle so I wasn't even sure they could get down the field if the Bills made that FG.

Offensively yes, but not so much during the game yesterday. It was clear the Bills defense wasn't able to stop them. It's an odd melancholy when your team is in a huge game, but you know they're going to make the plays when they matter and the other team will have 1 or 2 unforgivable mistakes.

[BBases31]

Originally Posted by Bosoxfan5990

Were KC/Mahomes fans ever nervous last night?

Yes because whoever got the ball last was going to have the best chance to win with both defenses playing terrible. It was just a prayer that the Bills offense would blow it

[MyckKabongo]

KC's defense got ran over all night...

Until Q4 when they forced two stops and held for a FG try on the 3 Bills drives.

Put some respect on Spagnuolo's name. His defenses are very consistently nails in Q4 in Playoff Games.

This is a great defense and has been all year. This was one of their worst games ofthe season and they still came up clutch at the end. Reminiscent of the 2020 Super Bowl.

[TSonn]

Originally Posted by BBases31

Yes because whoever got the ball last was going to have the best chance to win with both defenses playing terrible. It was just a prayer that the Bills offense would blow it

Didn't know you were a KC/Mahomes fan! Welcome BBases.

[TSonn]

Originally Posted by Bosoxfan5990

Were KC/Mahomes fans ever nervous last night?

I feel like it was one of those games you knew they were going to pull out in the end somehow. As a Patriots fan, I always felt like they would come out ahead in those back and forth games (except Super Bowl LII).

Felt like a win all night except for on the final Bills drive when KC dropped an easy INT and couldn't pick up the fumble. At that point it started feeling a little like destiny was bouncing the Bills way but oh boy did Bass mess it up.

[jacksonjj]

Originally Posted by MyckKabongo

KC's defense got ran over all night...

Until Q4 when they forced two stops and held for a FG try on the 3 Bills drives.

Put some respect on Spagnuolo's name. His defenses are very consistently nails in Q4 in Playoff Games.

This is a great defense and has been all year. This was one of their worst games ofthe season and they still came up clutch at the end. Reminiscent of the 2020 Super Bowl.

or 2023 super bowl. Gets ran over in the 1st half, makes some crucial stops in the 2nd plus a perfect Mahomes game.

[MyckKabongo]

* It was nerve wracking. Chiefs messed up 2 chances to essentially seal the game.

I have a ton of faith in Mahomes but he's not invincible and he can't catch the ball too. There were multiple games this year that would have been Ws had receivers simply made catches.

* Fun fact: this weekend the Chiefs will have a chance to win back to back playoff road games. The Brady Patriots never did that (though Brady did do it with the Bucs).

[BBases31]

Originally Posted by TSonn

Didn't know you were a KC/Mahomes fan! Welcome BBases.

I am not but I can answer the question for them

[pejc300]

I was nervous as all heck. Before this season I would have said no, but honestly the Chiefs lost a lot of big games this year where Mahomes and/or the team did not come in clutch in the last minutes. I thought it was destiny that Allen would lead them to a TD with a minute left, and then a huge KC blunder (dropped pass, INT, fumble etc.) would seal their fate and a deserving end to a horrible season.

I was an absolute wreck Mecole fumbled, and a full on derailment when we did not fall not that Allen fumble. But once that kick went wide ride, it was absolute jubilation.

[kcroyalsfan8515]

Originally Posted by BBases31

I am not but I can answer the question for them

good to have u aboard...no reason to not have an AFC team ...plus it's fun to cheer for Mahomes.

[bills4life]

Remember that time I came in here and tried to argue that Bills have an equally concerning WR situation as Chiefs and got flamed for it?

Yesterday pretty sure I counted 4 Bills drops vs 0 KC drops. And at least 2 of them were MAJOR.

Here is a crazy stat I just heard:

Josh Allen has played with ONE first round WR in his entire career.

Guess who?

Kelvin Benjamin

Allen was on point all day yesterday, but he wasn’t getting enough help from his supporting cast (sound familiar?)

However, I will concede that he blew it at the very end. Not throwing to wide open Diggs on 2nd and 9 which woild have resulted in 1st down at the KC 15 at minimum. And I don’t get it, because Allen was playing smart ball all day taking the check downs that I wished he would take all year and using his legs, but when it was all on the line, for the first time all off season, hero ball Josh comes out. Listen even if he hit Shakir on that TD I think it’s the wrong move because you leave too much time for KC. Diggs was ALL BY HIMSELF for an easy first down. Mahomes makes that throw every time imo.

Sigh . Anyway… It is ALWAYS SOMETHING isn’t it? One mistake or another at the end - when it comes to Bills vs Chiefs, and I’m afraid that is the difference between our 2 teams.

[bluebirds987]

Originally Posted by bills4life

Remember that time I came in here and tried to argue that Bills have an equally concerning WR situation as Chiefs and got flamed for it?

Yesterday pretty sure I counted 4 Bills drops vs 0 KC drops. And at least 2 of them were MAJOR.

Here is a crazy stat I just heard:

Josh Allen has played with ONE first round WR in his entire career.

Guess who?

Kelvin Benjamin

Allen was on point all day yesterday, but he wasn’t getting enough help from his supporting cast (sound familiar?)

However, I will concede that he blew it at the very end. Not throwing to wide open Diggs on 2nd and 9 which woild have resulted in 1st down at the KC 15 at minimum. And I don’t get it, because Allen was playing smart ball all day taking the check downs that I wished he would take all year and using his legs, but when it was all on the line, for the first time all off season, hero ball Josh comes out. Listen even if he hit Shakir on that TD I think it’s the wrong move because you leave too much time for KC. Diggs was ALL BY HIMSELF for an easy first down. Mahomes makes that throw every time imo.

Sigh . Anyway… It is ALWAYS SOMETHING isn’t it? One mistake or another at the end - when it comes to Bills vs Chiefs, and I’m afraid that is the difference between our 2 teams.

Diggs having only 3 catches on 8 targets was shocking to me. That bomb he dropped was one of the pivotal plays in the game and while he absolutely should've him short, Diggs wasn't having the best game.

[kcroyalsfan8515]

Originally Posted by bills4life

Remember that time I came in here and tried to argue that Bills have an equally concerning WR situation as Chiefs and got flamed for it?

Yesterday pretty sure I counted 4 Bills drops vs 0 KC drops. And at least 2 of them were MAJOR.

Here is a crazy stat I just heard:

Josh Allen has played with ONE first round WR in his entire career.

Guess who?

Kelvin Benjamin

Allen was on point all day yesterday, but he wasn’t getting enough help from his supporting cast (sound familiar?)

However, I will concede that he blew it at the very end. Not throwing to wide open Diggs on 2nd and 9 which woild have resulted in 1st down at the KC 15 at minimum. And I don’t get it, because Allen was playing smart ball all day taking the check downs that I wished he would take all year and using his legs, but when it was all on the line, for the first time all off season, hero ball Josh comes out. Listen even if he hit Shakir on that TD I think it’s the wrong move because you leave too much time for KC. Diggs was ALL BY HIMSELF for an easy first down. Mahomes makes that throw every time imo.

Sigh . Anyway… It is ALWAYS SOMETHING isn’t it? One mistake or another at the end - when it comes to Bills vs Chiefs, and I’m afraid that is the difference between our 2 teams.

Chiefs had one drop ...1st drive on 3rs down..Justin Watson. Anyway Josh Allen played well..but they had chances ...Bills got the breaks....Hardman fumble was a huge play..Allen fumbled on that last drive and somehow Chiefs didn't recover...Lateral on 1st drive that ended up giving them 3 points. ...He also threw a pass that should have been picked on the last drive...I mean everyone counted them out when they were 6-6...showed heart winning all those games.

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by bills4life

Remember that time I came in here and tried to argue that Bills have an equally concerning WR situation as Chiefs and got flamed for it?

Yesterday pretty sure I counted 4 Bills drops vs 0 KC drops. And at least 2 of them were MAJOR.

Here is a crazy stat I just heard:

Josh Allen has played with ONE first round WR in his entire career.

Guess who?

Kelvin Benjamin

Allen was on point all day yesterday, but he wasn’t getting enough help from his supporting cast (sound familiar?)

However, I will concede that he blew it at the very end. Not throwing to wide open Diggs on 2nd and 9 which woild have resulted in 1st down at the KC 15 at minimum. And I don’t get it, because Allen was playing smart ball all day taking the check downs that I wished he would take all year and using his legs, but when it was all on the line, for the first time all off season, hero ball Josh comes out. Listen even if he hit Shakir on that TD I think it’s the wrong move because you leave too much time for KC. Diggs was ALL BY HIMSELF for an easy first down. Mahomes makes that throw every time imo.

Sigh . Anyway… It is ALWAYS SOMETHING isn’t it? One mistake or another at the end - when it comes to Bills vs Chiefs, and I’m afraid that is the difference between our 2 teams.

Astute of you the realize this.

Where Allen and Mcdermott/Brady got lost in the moment is that a touchdown or field goal with 2 mins left didn't mean much. I'll argue that once they got within the 25 yard line, they were in 4 down territory, unless it came down to 4th and longer than, say, 6 yards. They needed to play to not only score, but also leave no time on the clock for Mahomes to operate.

Somebody asked if I was nervous. I got a little nervous when Hardman fumbled away what would have sealed the game. I stopped being nervous when the Bills lined up for a field goal. At that point I was excited for a Chiefs game winning drive. Instead, it came easier than that.

[HBMC]

Originally Posted by MyckKabongo

This is a great defense and has been all year. This was one of their worst games ofthe season and they still came up clutch at the end. Reminiscent of the 2020 Super Bowl.

I wouldn't say it was their worst performance (that was probably the Green Bay game). Being down 4 points when your team was at a massive deficit of T.O.P. and plays run in the first half was a sign that they weren't going to get knocked out of the game. Buffalo was doing their damndest to play keep away and it stopped working once KC zipped down the field for Kelce's TD catches on the two meaningful drives around half time.

Bowing up to allow 7 points in the 2nd half is huge. Especially when they got no sacks and precious few pressures. Once they figured out when to run blitz or which way to slant the DL, Linebackers were able to make plays on Cook.

[kcroyalsfan8515]

some football porn

https://youtu.be/QoNpgr45qyI?si=vX-K02zd1VEQE4ti

[hermanotarjeta]

Is the NT red rpa on the goldin auction supposed to be /2 instead of 1/1?

I thought the shield was 1/1 - what version is being auctioned off?

[weeds73]

So are we back to thinking Mahomes is a good quarterback again, or do we need to wait until after the ravens game?


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[tjforce]

Originally Posted by weeds73

So are we back to thinking Mahomes is a good quarterback again, or do we need to wait until after the ravens game?


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Until we find a new way to dilute ourselves into moving the goal posts again.

I loved last week's 'BuT He CaN'T WIn In ThE PlAYOFfs ON the RoAd!"

[HBMC]

So much slicing and dicing of the Bills. Averaging over 7 yards a play as an offense is ludicrous.

[HBMC]

Originally Posted by BBases31

Great game from Mahomes and got the road playoff win but the Bills D was really short-handed. That's two weeks in a row he's barely beating defenses that have many starters out. Going to be a great game against the Ravens. The duel of who will have the honor of losing the Niners in the Super Bowl

Maybe you should worry about Purdy disappearing as an offensive force once his security blanket got dinged.

It's incredible how pedestrian the Niners are without Deebo on offense. They have the real MVP of the NFL (CMC) and they forget to use the guy and force Purdy to be something he's not.

Also, Buffalo's DL wasn't short handed, they were ghosted by the Chiefs OL. Ed Oliver didn't have a pressure for the first time since 2021.

Originally Posted by tjforce

Also...

All hail MVS for being the worst WR of the regular season, the outplaying Stefon Diggs today.

HAIL! Both of those catches were incredible. Mahomes' missed TD to MVS was a good read, just a shade off. Same for the miss to Kelce. Kelce shortened the route and made the window to catch it too small.

Either way, Mahomes' game was super clean, super poised and in that hostile environment, he was never rattled.

[bills4life]

Originally Posted by tjforce

Astute of you the realize this.

Where Allen and Mcdermott/Brady got lost in the moment is that a touchdown or field goal with 2 mins left didn't mean much. I'll argue that once they got within the 25 yard line, they were in 4 down territory, unless it came down to 4th and longer than, say, 6 yards. They needed to play to not only score, but also leave no time on the clock for Mahomes to operate.

Somebody asked if I was nervous. I got a little nervous when Hardman fumbled away what would have sealed the game. I stopped being nervous when the Bills lined up for a field goal. At that point I was excited for a Chiefs game winning drive. Instead, it came easier than that.

Would have liked our chances with a 4 point lead and somewhere between 50 seconds and 1:20 left to play, with KC having 1 time out at best because even with how the Bills defense was playing, a TD would have been a MUCH bigger ask than a field goal in that scenario.

To your point, that should have been the play. I am not sure if it was McDermott/Brady getting lost in the moment so much as Allen though because on 2nd and 9 the underneath play was there to be made, but they got greedy for sure. And the funny part about it is, they were doing a great job of eating clock until that point of the drive, even without a run game to lean on.

Also, since someone else brought this up, I agree that KC missed an opportunity by not falling on the Bills fumble earlier in that drive, however, fumbles are all 50/50 anyway and Kincaid made a great play to prevent KC from recovering. As far as the “almost” interception though. I don’t know about that one. It wasn’t as close as it looked on the replay. McDuffie got one arm on the ball. Looked like a break up more than anything else.

Anyway, I remember when we got down to the KC 25, first and 10, I text my best friend (Raiders fan) “this feels too good to be true” and he agreed. It all went down hill from there.

Ah… the life of a Bills fan. We are always right there with you, and have proven fully capable of beating KC, but not when it matters most. The Lb injuries were devastating and the reason I thought we would lose that game beforehand. Will be interesting to see how the Chiefs look vs an elite defense next week. It’ll definitely be tougher sledding than Bills injury depleted defense, but it remains to be seen if Lamar and co can move as effectively vs your great defense as Allen and the Bills did (through 3 quarters anyway). Good luck.

[jmarascojr]

A pretty interesting question was tabled on one of the sports talk shows up here in WNY yesterday....

Would you rather:
1. Be heartbroken cause "we" got so close and Bass missed the kick
OR
2. Bass makes the kick and be heart broken cause Mahomes charges down the field with more than enough time and they get a game winning field goal with no time remaining...

I feel like 2 was gonna happen even if Bass made the kick, worst case scenario it goes to OT and KC does it there...