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Old 03-20-2024, 08:58 PM   #101
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Old 03-20-2024, 09:00 PM   #102
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Old 03-20-2024, 09:02 PM   #103
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Old 03-20-2024, 09:21 PM   #104
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I think the problem is that it’s not far fetched that if you have a homie or brother that you know gambles, you wouldn’t innocently ask him to throw some money on a random game for you. What if they watched the Super Bowl together and Shohei asks him to throw an extra $1k on the game for him not knowing he was in the hole and using an illegal bookie. As a Dodger fan I’m just worried at how close these two guys seemed to be even outside of baseball duties.
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Old 03-20-2024, 09:27 PM   #105
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Counterpoint: his best friend just signed a $700m contract
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Not when he’s the interpreter for and good friend of someone worth 9 figures.
What does that have to do with anything? A bookie isn't going to extend a line of credit like that to a guy making $200k no matter how rich the guy's "best friend" is. He would be relying on his client to either (A) steal from the friend, (B) borrow from the friend a loan which could never be repaid, or (C) accept a multi-million dollar gift from the friend.

From the bookie's perspective, none of those options are good or reliable.
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Old 03-20-2024, 09:30 PM   #106
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Old 03-20-2024, 09:38 PM   #107
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What does that have to do with anything? A bookie isn't going to extend a line of credit like that to a guy making $200k no matter how rich the guy's "best friend" is. He would be relying on his client to either (A) steal from the friend, (B) borrow from the friend a loan which could never be repaid, or (C) accept a multi-million dollar gift from the friend.

From the bookie's perspective, none of those options are good or reliable.
(B) and (C) seems like seem like amazing options for the book if the interpreter is a big enough fish. Worst case you don’t get paid from a guy that could never win, best case Ohtani wires you 5 million.
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Old 03-20-2024, 09:40 PM   #108
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What does that have to do with anything? A bookie isn't going to extend a line of credit like that to a guy making $200k no matter how rich the guy's "best friend" is. He would be relying on his client to either (A) steal from the friend, (B) borrow from the friend a loan which could never be repaid, or (C) accept a multi-million dollar gift from the friend.

From the bookie's perspective, none of those options are good or reliable.
Really?

Yes he is. How can you not see that a bookie would.

"Pay, or we ruin the reputation of the greatest baseball player of all time."

A bookie has all the leverage and will extend as much credit as needed especially in this unique case.
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Old 03-20-2024, 09:43 PM   #109
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Sports betting should never have been legalized in the US outside of Vegas and AC.

Per usual, the internet ruined everything.

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Old 03-20-2024, 09:45 PM   #110
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Really?

Yes he is. How can you not see that a bookie would.

"Pay, or we ruin the reputation of the greatest baseball player of all time."
The interpreter gambling with a bookie without Ohtani's knowledge doesn't ruin Ohtani's reputation one bit. Why would it?

But Ohtani making a direct $5 million payment to said bookie might.
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A bookie has all the leverage and will extend as much credit as needed especially in this unique case.
No, he kinda really doesn't. Ohtani's reputation is perfectly secure if he could credibly claim no knowledge of anything that was going on.

Of course, the problem we currently have is Ohtani's can't credibly claim no knowledge of what has been going on.
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(B) and (C) seems like seem like amazing options for the book if the interpreter is a big enough fish. Worst case you don’t get paid from a guy that could never win, best case Ohtani wires you 5 million.
Most bookies, when they get heavy action, put some of that action with other bookies (or casinos) to reduce risk. Heck, even legit casinos do that sometimes. So the "worst case" scenario isn't break even. The worst case scenario is the bookie loses millions of dollars because his client stiffed him.

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Old 03-20-2024, 09:53 PM   #111
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This thread is GOLD, Jerry, GOLD.
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Old 03-20-2024, 09:54 PM   #112
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If he were winning he wouldn't have had to get millions in credit. Lol.
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Old 03-20-2024, 09:58 PM   #113
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I have $18M invested in Ohtani.

Will my cardboard survive?

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Old 03-20-2024, 10:00 PM   #114
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Gambling ruined Michael Jordans card values right?
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I'm confused. The claim from his lawyers is he's a victim of theft from the bookie?
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Old 03-20-2024, 10:02 PM   #116
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MLB probably dodged a bullet here.

If we believe the ESPN reports, this wasn't simply one big $4.5 million payment. There were multiple transactions of hundreds of thousands of dollars directly from Ohtani to the bookie (or the bookie's associates).

IMHO it is not plausible that these transactions took place without Ohtani's knowledge. However, at present, there doesn't seem to be any evidence that Ohtani himself gambled or, even worse, gambled on baseball.

Now there may very well be other shoes waiting to drop but right now, this does not seem as though it will officially impact Ohtani's career.
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Old 03-20-2024, 10:05 PM   #118
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The interpreter gambling with a bookie without Ohtani's knowledge doesn't ruin Ohtani's reputation one bit. Why would it?

But Ohtani making a direct $5 million payment to said bookie might.

No, he kinda really doesn't. Ohtani's reputation is perfectly secure if he could credibly claim no knowledge of anything that was going on.

Of course, the problem we currently have is Ohtani's can't credibly claim no knowledge of what has been going on.
Most bookies, when they get heavy action, put some of that action with other bookies (or casinos) to reduce risk. Heck, even legit casinos do that sometimes. So the "worst case" scenario isn't break even. The worst case scenario is the bookie loses millions of dollars because his client stiffed him.
You are looking at it from the wrong perspective.

Look at it from the bookies perspective. You loan the money
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Old 03-20-2024, 10:06 PM   #119
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I don't rely on articles for information.

There is no way someone who is making millions of dollars in MLB is going to put that in jeopardy gambling on baseball. Not even someone addicted to gambling.
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Old 03-20-2024, 10:06 PM   #120
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Daaayyyuumm…I always knew this place was where to find all the illegal bookie experts!
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Old 03-20-2024, 10:07 PM   #121
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MLB probably dodged a bullet here.

If we believe the ESPN reports, this wasn't simply one big $4.5 million payment. There were multiple transactions of hundreds of thousands of dollars directly from Ohtani to the bookie (or the bookie's associates).

IMHO it is not plausible that these transactions took place without Ohtani's knowledge. However, at present, there doesn't seem to be any evidence that Ohtani himself gambled or, even worse, gambled on baseball.

Now there may very well be other shoes waiting to drop but right now, this does not seem as though it will officially impact Ohtani's career.
That's evidence of gambling. Now he has to disprove it wasn't him.
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Old 03-20-2024, 10:07 PM   #122
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Are there discounts on Ohtanis on eBay?
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Old 03-20-2024, 10:09 PM   #123
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Ohtani cards were way overpriced anyways. This should fix it...
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Old 03-20-2024, 10:11 PM   #124
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Shohei we have Pete Rose holding on line 1 for you
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