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Always a chance, but looking at how young he looks on his 2016 Bowman Chrome Prospect Card, he’s probably a ‘legit’ 26 now.
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Juan Soto contract details: $765M, 15 years. $75M signing bonus (state tax advantage: Florida resident). about $120M overall pay 2025. No deferred $. Opt out after 5 years (age 30). Citi Field suite for family (est. value $500K plus plus a year)
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If he averages 600 PA over the 15 years that's $85k per PA and it could be higher depending on the the performance increases in the contract. I guess it's just paper with colors on it so who cares.
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May sound odd but I am going to guess Gunnar henderson. At 23 his numbers improved from his ROY year, nd he was actually in the conversation for MVP before he went into a pretty bad slump. Him or maybe Bobby Witt. Those are the 2 biggest names that will be FA in a few years, and Gunnar has boros.
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The key factor is the age of Soto, and how unlikely it is his skill set for offense diminishes. Very few players get on base at his clip for a season, let alone career. As it stands right now, Soto ranks 19th in all of baseball, all time, in OBP. Granted this is highly likely to change, it just shows how good he is at getting on base. He also has good average, doesn't strike out a lot, and has decent power. Plus, he might still be entering his prime, and likely will be at his peak for at least 5-7 years. Do I think he's worth $50 mil for 15 years? Not really, but I don't care, it's not my money. I just hope he stays injury free.
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if he exercises his opt out clause, the Mets can block it by paying him an additional $4 MM per year bringing the total contract to $805 MM.
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So many players seeing this contract are going to be taking so many more pitches going forward. OBP is where the money is!
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….. Chics dig the long ball
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I love it and I may not give up the MLB package now. I enjoyed the Soto/Judge run and will now enjoy the Lindor/Soto run.
The contract means absolutely nothing IF (IF!) they win even 1 World Series because it's freakin' New York. Also, Steve Cohen. With no cap, this is what MLB gets.
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Well, it's still the slug. Since 2021, only 9 players in baseball have a higher SLG than Soto, mostly the names you'd expect like Judge, Shohei, Yordan, Harper, Mookie. The OBP is just what separates Soto from the rest of the elites - nobody has a higher OBP since 2021, and that's the big reason that Soto moves from 10th in SLG to 4th in overall wRC+
Further point - look at the OBP leaderboard over the same span and you'll see guys like Yandy Diaz, Yelich, Arraez, hell, Brendan Donovan(???) in the top 15. But none of them hit for any power relatively, so overall offensively they're merely good instead of great
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Vladdy is an interesting case… if he has another season like this year, his stats will actually look pretty similar to Soto’s at age 26 (except for all the walks). Probably won’t get the same money but he’s probably in the $500mm ballpark… especially if he has a huge walk year. Lots of teams are looking for a big 1B too, including the Yankees- dude’s probably licking his chops right now
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Ohtani looks like the steal of the century right now.
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Different times. More players hit over .300 BA back then.. this season, only 7 players with qualifying stats hit over .300 BA. You read that right: only 7 players.
Part of why Soto got a big contract was his young age. There’s a possibility he is not in his prime yet. But folks were okay with Ohtani making big money while we don’t know if his pitching arm will ever be the same. Look at Soto vs Ohtani batting stats: ![]() |
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Bagwell was already 23 when he came up in 1991...
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Anyone remember when Bonilla became the first $6 million man and everyone lost their minds? Now scrubs are getting $6 million. Wild times.
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I am a little shocked we're coming up on 24 hours since the announcement and we're only at 5 pages in this thread
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