Is it over for Jordan Lawlar?

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

Completely irrelevant to my point. But thanks for trying.

If the chance is greater than 0.00%, then I am right.

My comment was specifically directed at those who said it's too late to become a superstar no matter what he does.

What were the chances Aaron Judge would do it when he was 22?

Like I said (if you had bothered to read), I don't think Lawler is that guy. But to say no matter what he does he will be hobby irrelevant is stupid.

1-2 outliers out of 100 doesn’t mean it could likely happen to anyone.

It’s a rare occurrence and at $400 a chrome auto at initial buy in, you will lose 98% of the time.

It’s over, unless you have breaker boi logic that thinks “there’s always a chance……”

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

If the chance is greater than 0.00%, then I am right.

This might be the best thing you’ve ever posted.

[boxbuster7]

I remember when chrome autos were like $10

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

Being hobby dead essentially means never seeing your initial hyped peak prices again.







That’s what we mean by hobby dead.

I don't know who "we" is, but that is not what hobby dead means.

Regardless, $400 first bowman auto is nothing if he turns into a hall of famer.

But again, I never once said it was "likely." Hobby dead means it's impossible. But now that I know you are misusing the term, carry on.

[Triple B]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Oh wow. $850-$900. And still selling for over $100.

At least find something more fun to piss your money away on.

If your guy Wander can still sell for $100, Lawlar isn't an exception.

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

I don't know who "we" is, but that is not what hobby dead means.

Regardless, $400 first bowman auto is nothing if he turns into a hall of famer.

But again, I never once said it was "likely." Hobby dead means it's impossible. But now that I know you are misusing the term, carry on.

Hobby dead means declining in significance and importance.

Perhaps your attorney textbooks suggest a different definition?

[MiamiMarlinsFan]

Originally Posted by jhssketchcards

People saying his hobby status is dead are all holding on to Bichette, Vlad, Robert, etc.
i remember for about 5-6 years people kept saying Correa was still young enough to maintain the hype in the hobby. Of course the scandal with Houston was his death nail, but people held out hope he’d fulfill the hobby prophecy bestowed on him.

NO ONE saw Judge coming at 26 and doing what he has done. No one. This site particular writes off any prospect or rookie debuting post 25 as hobby lepers. It’s ludicrous. I agree with another post that said if Lawlar comes back even at 24 and is a stud, he will definitely create hobby frenzy.

Many “big” hobby names have peaks and valleys the past decade. People now are so easy to let go of Bobby Witt Jr. yet hype for Caglione is off the charts and the kid hasn’t seen MLB pitchers yet.
There are lots of minor league HOFers.


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A lot of people saw Judge coming that year. He was amazing in his age 25 season.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by Triple B

If your guy Wander can still sell for $100, Lawlar isn't an exception.

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by Triple B

If your guy Wander can still sell for $100, Lawlar isn't an exception.

I was told Wander is not hobby dead.

[ATLOTP]

Turn him into glue!

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

Hobby dead means declining in significance and importance.



Perhaps your attorney textbooks suggest a different definition?

LOL

Dead means dead. Incapable of revival.

I guess your dictionary made up some new definition of dead to recover from a statement I proved incorrect. :rollseyes:

I think it's safe to say you are probably the only person who defines "hobby dead" as in decline.

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

LOL

Dead means dead. Incapable of revival.

I guess your dictionary made up some new definition of dead to recover from a statement I proved incorrect. :rollseyes:

I think it's safe to say you are probably the only person who defines "hobby dead" as in decline.

When I address you specifically, I’ll use the term as meaning deceased players so that you’ll understand.

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

When I address you specifically, I’ll use the term as meaning deceased players so that you’ll understand.

Serious question. Do you truly think other people use the term hobby dead to mean in decline, rather than meaning their hobby cannot recover?

You can try to make this about me. But there is no way I'm in the minority in understanding what 'hobby dead" means.

[hermanotarjeta]

Today, kids, we learned Austin Hendricks is not hobby dead.

He is, in fact, still breathing and has a pulse.

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

Serious question. Do you truly think other people use the term hobby dead to mean in decline, rather than meaning their hobby cannot recover?

In colloquial terms, yes, hobby dead means no longer relevant with no realistic chance of recovering.

It doesn’t mean they are literally dead.

When I say it’s over, what do you think I mean?

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

In colloquial terms, yes, hobby dead means no longer relevant with no realistic chance of recovering.

It doesn’t mean they are literally dead.

When I say it’s over, what do you think I mean?

LOL

I was the one saying it meant no longer relevant with no chance of recovering. YOU were claiming it didn't mean that, but just meant "declining."

Classic cardbro.

I never once insinuated it meant physically dead. You either can't read, or are trolling right now.

[Giancarlo27]

Name a better duo than “Ohio Lawyer” and arguing nonsensical semantics. Dude legit thinks he is the smartest person on this forum.

Yes, there is a theoretical possibility that Lawlar somehow becomes the next Judge and gets back to $400 per chrome auto. Congrats.

Tip: good lawyers don’t need to remind everyone at all times that they are a lawyer


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[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

LOL

I was the one saying it meant no longer relevant with no chance of recovering. YOU were claiming it didn't mean that, but just meant "declining."

Classic cardbro.

I never once insinuated it meant physically dead. You either can't read, or are trolling right now.

Should anyone really take you seriously anymore?

Or do I have to convince everyone here that Austin Kendrick is really not hobby dead because he has a non-0.00% chance of making it to the hall of fame?

[hermanotarjeta]

I was told that you need to go to the vintage section to discuss “hobby ded” playerz.

[mfw13]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

What are the chances Lawlar actually puts up those gaudy numbers, even since the day he was drafted?

Come on, you’ve been in this game too long to think that way.

Go back and look at how bad Mike Trout was his first month in the majors.....7-43 with a .492 OPS.....

Jackson Holliday was horrible last year and has a 117 OPS+ this year.

Bobby Witt Jr. had a .558 OPS his first month in the majors (77 PA)....now he's a superstar.

Aaron Judge was 15-84 (.608 OPS) his first year in the majors.

Miguel Cabrera was 6-38 his first month in the majors....

50 AB is too small of a sample size to reach ANY conclusions about how good Lawlar will be....

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by mfw13

Go back and look at how bad Mike Trout was his first month in the majors.....7-43 with a .492 OPS.....

Jackson Holliday was horrible last year and has a 117 OPS+ this year.

Bobby Witt Jr. had a .558 OPS his first month in the majors (77 PA)....now he's a superstar.

Miguel Cabrera was 6-38 his first month in the majors....

50 AB is too small of a sample size to reach ANY conclusions about how good Lawlar will be....

As I stated before, these are 1-2 out of 100 exceptions.

98 out of 100 of players who start this way, especially those who command $400 for base chrome autos at release, never recover. IE they can be considered hobby dead.

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

As I stated before, these are 1-2 out of 100 exceptions.



98 out of 100 of players who start this way, especially those who command $400 for base chrome autos at release, never recover. IE they can be considered hobby dead.

98% of all prospects fail. That doesn't really help your argument.

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by Giancarlo27

Name a better duo than “Ohio Lawyer” and arguing nonsensical semantics. Dude legit thinks he is the smartest person on this forum.

Yes, there is a theoretical possibility that Lawlar somehow becomes the next Judge and gets back to $400 per chrome auto. Congrats.

Tip: good lawyers don’t need to remind everyone at all times that they are a lawyer


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It's only you and your troll buddies who constantly talk about my job. I literally never talk about it. I had this username in the card community for over 20 years, and I regret using it here, before I realized they refuse to let you change it. I only used it here because people knew me by that name and I wanted the continuity. If I could change it I would, so small minded trolls like you wouldn't have anything else to talk about when you have no valid point to argue about.

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

98% of all prospects fail. That doesn't really help your argument.

Who’s arguing?

I’m not an attorney and I’m glad I’m not one.

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

Should anyone really take you seriously anymore?



Or do I have to convince everyone here that Austin Kendrick is really not hobby dead because he has a non-0.00% chance of making it to the hall of fame?

At least get his name right.

But no one is talking about Austin Hendrick but you. And if you think comparing Lawler, a legit major league prospect, who has excelled in the minors and made the majors, is the same as a kid drafted at 18 but struggled in low A from day 1, and has never shown anything in the minors, than that explains a lot about why you struggle with basic concepts.