1997 Flair Showcase box break.....GOAT LEGACY HIT!!!

gottagitdemjs · 06-19-2021, 11:46 PM

My LCS bought a collection of 90's wax from a local collector a couple months ago. A lot of it is priced out of my price range (especially the basketball), but I have opened a couple EX-2000 baseball boxes and today I picked up a 1997 Flair Showcase box. I wanted to take a shot at a nice Legacy or possibly a Masterpiece. Here are the spoils...

Ahh memories...

Back when even the boxes were elegant, let alone the cards. Also, other than some worthless inserts and no-name Row 0's, my only hit was a Legacy, but thank God it was a good one! The receiver GOAT!

Close-up...

Crzy4phins · 06-20-2021, 05:19 AM

Sweet! I love breaking old school wax!

IpcSteveYoung · 06-20-2021, 09:50 AM

Very nice- I'd be happy with that outcome as well!
Love old school breaks, thanks for sharing!

88horsepower · 06-20-2021, 10:21 AM

Hell yeah! That's how a 90's break is done right there. Congrats!

whynotme012 · 06-20-2021, 01:52 PM

Nice hit

Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk

fact81 · 06-21-2021, 12:31 PM

Man, arguably the best Non QB player you could have pulled! Congratulations!

4Rookie4 · 06-21-2021, 01:51 PM

Awesome hit!

barberromo2008 · 06-21-2021, 07:10 PM

Congrats. This is why I still love breaking older wax over the faster newer and way more pricey stuff.

Zoop · 06-22-2021, 12:37 AM

Congrats! Love the Flair stuff.

Jblaw1 · 06-23-2021, 03:41 PM

Awesome card. Out of all the numbered inserts back then those are my favorites. Awesome card and great fun I’m sure.

Aquagolf70 · 06-29-2021, 05:30 PM

Congratulations! Loved this stuff as a kid, left the hobby only to return 20 years later wishing to rip the same stuff. How much was the box?

gottagitdemjs · 01-25-2023, 01:59 PM

A little update on this Rice Legacy card. I sent it to PSA and they claim it didn't meet the minimum size requirement. Unbelievable. I know there isn't much I can do to change their mind because I don't have video proof, but come on. I guess I'll try SGC.

Cheddar · 01-25-2023, 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gottagitdemjs

A little update on this Rice Legacy card. I sent it to PSA and they claim it didn't meet the minimum size requirement. Unbelievable. I know there isn't much I can do to change their mind because I don't have video proof, but come on. I guess I'll try SGC.

Not meeting the min size requirement does NOT mean they think the card is trimmed... quite the opposite actually. If they thought it was trimmed, they'd have labeled it as altered and still charged you.

Some have had success when resubmitting to PSA, but otherwise, SGC is probably your best route.

SleeperCards · 01-26-2023, 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gottagitdemjs

A little update on this Rice Legacy card. I sent it to PSA and they claim it didn't meet the minimum size requirement. Unbelievable. I know there isn't much I can do to change their mind because I don't have video proof, but come on. I guess I'll try SGC.

It happens, I got a min size on an Urlacher Bowman Auto RC I pulled myself. You could try resubbing. I'd put it up next to another card to see how grievous the size difference is, if it's barely noticeable maybe give it another shot, it it's pretty apparent maybe try another company if you need it slabbed.

ScooterD · 01-26-2023, 09:10 AM

Weren’t several of the rarer 90’s inserts parallels found to be manufactured smaller? Maybe PMGs or Rubies

chasacar86 · 01-27-2023, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScooterD

Weren’t several of the rarer 90’s inserts parallels found to be manufactured smaller? Maybe PMGs or Rubies

Happens on more recently produced stuff as well.

I would send it back and try again, but maybe include another card from the break (depending on service level obv).

I do this on the rare occasion I get the N6 and the intent is to show the grader it's common for that set, and having two examples may get them to lean toward slabbing.

hche · 01-27-2023, 02:14 PM

It happens all the time. A few years back., I saw someone pulled a red refractor from a Bowman Chrome box and the card is like 90% of the size of a regular chrome card. Of course, PSA wont grade that.

Grid · 01-27-2023, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gottagitdemjs

A little update on this Rice Legacy card. I sent it to PSA and they claim it didn't meet the minimum size requirement. Unbelievable. I know there isn't much I can do to change their mind because I don't have video proof, but come on. I guess I'll try SGC.

PSA is under fire for allowing so many 90's sheet cut NBA cards through. I assume that is why they cracked down hard on your Rice.

CastleBeachCards · 08-04-2025, 11:03 AM

Wow..........that's amazing

CastleBeachCards · 08-04-2025, 11:05 AM

Every time I get a size requirement return.......BGS graded them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gottagitdemjs

A little update on this Rice Legacy card. I sent it to PSA and they claim it didn't meet the minimum size requirement. Unbelievable. I know there isn't much I can do to change their mind because I don't have video proof, but come on. I guess I'll try SGC.

JosieD · 08-13-2025, 09:49 AM

Very sweet pull!

06-19-2021, 11:46 PM	#1
gottagitdemjs Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 5,949 tigerwoods3423	1997 Flair Showcase box break.....GOAT LEGACY HIT!!! My LCS bought a collection of 90's wax from a local collector a couple months ago. A lot of it is priced out of my price range (especially the basketball), but I have opened a couple EX-2000 baseball boxes and today I picked up a 1997 Flair Showcase box. I wanted to take a shot at a nice Legacy or possibly a Masterpiece. Here are the spoils... Ahh memories... Back when even the boxes were elegant, let alone the cards. Also, other than some worthless inserts and no-name Row 0's, my only hit was a Legacy, but thank God it was a good one! The receiver GOAT! Close-up... __________________ Things I need to happen in order to die happy: KU wins a NCAA Championship....CHECK...TWICE! The Royals win a World Series.....CHECK The Chiefs win a Super Bowl.......FINALLY!!!...3X!!! BACK TO BACK!!! Last edited by gottagitdemjs; 06-19-2021 at 11:48 PM.

06-20-2021, 05:19 AM	#2
Crzy4phins Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Colorado Springs,Colorado Posts: 1,370 kilosportscards	Sweet! I love breaking old school wax! __________________ Collect Dolphins, Bob Griese, Brian Griese,Howie Long,Vikings,Raiders,(Panthers,Broncos,Cowboys for the wife) https://www.flickr.com/photos/kilosportscards/albums Trade lists: http://loreskovic.wix.com/kilo-sport-cards

06-21-2021, 12:31 PM	#6
fact81 Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Fair Lawn NJ Posts: 492	Man, arguably the best Non QB player you could have pulled! Congratulations! __________________ Always looking for Barry Sanders Detroit Lions

06-21-2021, 01:51 PM	#7
4Rookie4 Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Iowa Posts: 575	Awesome hit! __________________ Always looking for Akrum Wadley, Shonn Greene, Brad Nelson and former Iowa Hawkeyes!

06-21-2021, 07:10 PM	#8
barberromo2008 Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Fresno, CA Posts: 13,980 sportscloset12	Congrats. This is why I still love breaking older wax over the faster newer and way more pricey stuff. __________________ Collecting Dallas Cowboys,NFC East Players,Drew Brees, Tom Brady and Peyton Manning.

06-20-2021, 09:50 AM	#3
IpcSteveYoung Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: New York Posts: 1,250	Very nice- I'd be happy with that outcome as well! Love old school breaks, thanks for sharing!

06-20-2021, 10:21 AM	#4
88horsepower Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Somewhere In Time Posts: 23,773	Hell yeah! That's how a 90's break is done right there. Congrats!

06-20-2021, 01:52 PM	#5
whynotme012 Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 5,967	Nice hit Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk

06-22-2021, 12:37 AM	#9
Zoop Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 8,685 ZooperBowl	Congrats! Love the Flair stuff. __________________ Lifelong St. Louis Cardinals fan. Lifelong Seattle Seahawks fan. Albert Pujols. Bret "Hitman" Hart. Yadier Molina. Ichiro. Instagram: ZooperBowl Life is too short to be mad on a message board.

06-23-2021, 03:41 PM	#10
Jblaw1 Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Missouri Posts: 1,908 jblaw1	Awesome card. Out of all the numbered inserts back then those are my favorites. Awesome card and great fun I’m sure.

06-29-2021, 05:30 PM	#11
Aquagolf70 Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 1,642	Congratulations! Loved this stuff as a kid, left the hobby only to return 20 years later wishing to rip the same stuff. How much was the box?

01-25-2023, 01:59 PM	#12
gottagitdemjs Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 5,949 tigerwoods3423	A little update on this Rice Legacy card. I sent it to PSA and they claim it didn't meet the minimum size requirement. Unbelievable. I know there isn't much I can do to change their mind because I don't have video proof, but come on. I guess I'll try SGC. __________________ Things I need to happen in order to die happy: KU wins a NCAA Championship....CHECK...TWICE! The Royals win a World Series.....CHECK The Chiefs win a Super Bowl.......FINALLY!!!...3X!!! BACK TO BACK!!!

01-26-2023, 09:10 AM	#15
ScooterD Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 5,354	Weren’t several of the rarer 90’s inserts parallels found to be manufactured smaller? Maybe PMGs or Rubies

01-27-2023, 02:14 PM	#17
hche Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 6,300	It happens all the time. A few years back., I saw someone pulled a red refractor from a Bowman Chrome box and the card is like 90% of the size of a regular chrome card. Of course, PSA wont grade that. __________________ I would ban you but I have no sway or pull here.

08-04-2025, 11:03 AM	#19
CastleBeachCards Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: St. Clair Shores, Mi Posts: 1,346 castlebeachcards castlebeachcards	Wow..........that's amazing

08-13-2025, 09:49 AM	#21
JosieD Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 33,862	Very sweet pull! __________________ #TEAMConnor #TeamLeoneez Day of Breakfast successful! Thank you! instagram: @oldschoolboxbreaks