Micah Parsons to the Packers

[erock28]

Originally Posted by Grid

Not only do the Cowboys get Kenny Clark, but the Packers already paid his $17.5MIL signing bonus. Plus paid his $7.5MIL roster bonus.

So they Cowboys not only get him, but they get him "cheap".

Meanwhile, the Packers have to eat $18.065MIL on the 2025 salary cap and $17.007MIL on the 2026 cap for Clark. Plus pay Micah.

Right now, Cowboys win. If they draft junk guys with those picks, and GB wins the Super Bowl or Parsons wins Player of the year. Packers win.

There is no doubt the Packers have to win a Bowl to truly win this trade. Even if they wind up in cap purgatory and have to rebuild, one Lombardi makes it worth it. That said, they're really only in a tough spot for 2026. The upcoming free agent list features a bunch of guys who are decent but no "must keeps" - R. Walker the best of the bunch followed by Doubs, Watson, Rhyan and Q. Walker. If signing Parsons means they can't retain any of them, I think most Packers fans would be totally okay with it.

[Blamo]

As a Packer fan I like it. However I admit that there is bias involved as well as my opinion that 1st round draft picks are a vastly overrated commodity and Kenny Clark's best days are (probably) behind him.

[erock28]

Originally Posted by Grid

Its a bold move! The Pack got Reggie White, gave him a bag of cash, and won the Super Bowl. They did it again with Charles Woodson. And that paid off too!

When the Bears got Mack, they immediately won the North and were a playoff team. He made a difference. But he was also a year removed from winning D Player of the year. And not finishing in 20th place, like Parsons. The Bears also didnt give up a good starting player either. The Bears also regretted it, as losing those 2 1st round picks hurt. And they had to dump Mack and rebuild. Which might happen here as well. Its all risk.

I dont agree with you crowing about him getting D POTY votes, for playing in 4 fewer games. He got 2 votes, just to be clear. Two.

Surtain got 320. Hendrickson 203. Garrett 157. Watt 111. Parson, 2... Two votes for the best D player, and is now the highest paid defender in league history. The highest paid non-QB to be exact. Two votes as the best.

He got votes and played in only 13 games, that means something. Their defense as a whole was nothing short of bad - really no one else on their front 7 really needed to be accounted for. Game plan for Parsons and handle the rest 1v1. He still put up per game stats that rivaled Hendrickson and Garrett. Sticking him opposite Gary and with Cooper in the middle? If Parsons doesn't get his that means other guys will, as the supporting cast is too talented to handle 1v1. That is the mark of a true defensive superstar.

[Grid]

Originally Posted by erock28

There is no doubt the Packers have to win a Bowl to truly win this trade. Even if they wind up in cap purgatory and have to rebuild, one Lombardi makes it worth it. That said, they're really only in a tough spot for 2026. The upcoming free agent list features a bunch of guys who are decent but no "must keeps" - R. Walker the best of the bunch followed by Doubs, Watson, Rhyan and Q. Walker. If signing Parsons means they can't retain any of them, I think most Packers fans would be totally okay with it.

They are in good shape this season for sure. As Parsons will count based on the final year of his rookie deal.

2026 Parsons is $48MIL, Gary is $28MIL, Jenkins is $25MIL, Banks is $25MIL and Love is $37MIL. They will have to juggle then. As they already have a ton of money pushed into void years on Love.

Love is $45MIL in 2027, $76MIl in 2028 and not even under contract past that, and will still be paid $50MIL or something in voids.

Pack is all in right now. Lets see what happens.

[mjekase]

Originally Posted by Grid

Not only do the Cowboys get Kenny Clark, but the Packers already paid his $17.5MIL signing bonus. Plus paid his $7.5MIL roster bonus.

So they Cowboys not only get him, but they get him "cheap".

The Cowboys get some flexibility, for sure. But Clark only comes cheap this year. Then he'll either be gone - which means they'll then have to replace the production of two good players - or he'll be a $20mil/year guy into his 30's.
Getting out from under the massive contract of a star player only pays dividends if you end up replacing his production for less money. Which is far from a sure thing here.

[jcp2]

We are going to see the run game continue to grow as so much money is being spend on pass rushers. Reggie White was dominant against the run, alot of these guys not so much.

[packman80]

Packers got a top 5 defensive player for 2 picks that likely will be end of round picks and a player who has been good but never great and going into the 10 year in the NFL.

Anyone who says Dallas won this trade is either a idiot or a butt hurt Cowboys fan who is mad that Parsons is gone. Parsons got paid yes but he's a top player in the league everyone who gets those contracts are overpaid but it's the part of doing business now.

GB took a risk with handing out this type of contract and it will effect how they can sign players in the future there is no doubt on that. But I think any fan of any team if you can get the chance to add a player who can be generational and a game changer you will do this trade anytime as it will make your team better right now when your goal is to win Super Bowls.

Personally I never thought this deal would happen as I thought GB would never give up the picks or take the cap hits. But I am glad to be wrong on this as Gute to a huge swing here and am glad he's taking a big gamble to add such a player as Parsons.

This only helps GB chances to win a SB in the next few years. Worry about the future later. Everyone thought a few years ago GB once Rodgers left was going to suck for years. Proof that does not have to happen so why not take a risk now to win.

Hoping this puts GB over the top and come Feb. 2026 Parsons is holding up the Lombardi.

GO PACK GO

[Blamo]

Getting caught up on the ESPN talking heads clips on this is a fun afternoon. They are pretty unified in their derision for the Cowboys regarding this deal.

[Grid]

Originally Posted by mjekase

The Cowboys get some flexibility, for sure. But Clark only comes cheap this year. Then he'll either be gone - which means they'll then have to replace the production of two good players - or he'll be a $20mil/year guy into his 30's.
Getting out from under the massive contract of a star player only pays dividends if you end up replacing his production for less money. Which is far from a sure thing here.

Clark isn't just cheap this year. He is dirt cheap. $2MIL for the Cowboys. And why would they get rid of him instead of paying $20MIL per next year? $20MIL is nothing. Thats not even top 15 money.

Chris Jones is making $32MIL per. And he is already 31. Clark is 29 years old now. He will be 30 starting the 2026 season. That isn't really "into his 30's".

Clark will average the Cowboys $14MIL over the next 3 years. That knocks him out of the top 25 highest on averages. For a 3 X Pro Bowler, who just played in one last year. His production would really have to fall apart to cut bait.

[Asian62150]

Originally Posted by Blamo

Getting caught up on the ESPN talking heads clips on this is a fun afternoon. They are pretty unified in their derision for the Cowboys regarding this deal.

Usually these talking heads commend the team getting the star player. It's the easiest to explain and the laziest take.

It's also a bonus/ratings boost if they get to trash the Cowboys.

Win-win (win-win-win?)

[packman80]

Full breakdown...

2025
$44M signing bonus
$1.17M base salary (fully gtd)

2026
$38M option bonus (fully gtd)
$2.387M base salary (fully gtd)

2027
$34.443M option bonus (fully gtd)
$3.107M base salary (injury gtd)

2028
$40.55M base salary (partially injury gtd)

2029
$43.55M base salary
$1M 90-man bonus

* $200K per-game active bonus each year
* $250K workout bonus each year

The new money base value is four years, $186 million, with another $2M available in escalators and incentives.

Including the year Parsons had left on his old contract, it's five years, $210M total.

[Grid]

Originally Posted by packman80

Full breakdown...

2025
$44M signing bonus
$1.17M base salary (fully gtd)

2026
$38M option bonus (fully gtd)
$2.387M base salary (fully gtd)

2027
$34.443M option bonus (fully gtd)
$3.107M base salary (injury gtd)

2028
$40.55M base salary (partially injury gtd)

2029
$43.55M base salary
$1M 90-man bonus

* $200K per-game active bonus each year
* $250K workout bonus each year

The new money base value is four years, $186 million, with another $2M available in escalators and incentives.

Including the year Parsons had left on his old contract, it's five years, $210M total.

Parsons making more than Mahomes per season is wild. Hopefully he brings as much postseason success to the Green Bay as he did in Dallas.

The Vikings are paying a total of $48M for Jonathan Greenard, Andrew Van Ginkel, Jonathan Allen, and Javon Hargrave this season (2025 cap numbers).

[ReggieBush22]

Overrated diva IMO. Earlier in his career, he was great but he's kept sliding since then.

[packman80]

Originally Posted by ReggieBush22

Overrated diva IMO. Earlier in his career, he was great but he's kept sliding since then.

LOL He's got over 12 sacks in each of his 4 years in the league. Only Reggie White has done that. Tell us you know nothing about football without telling us you know nothing about football.

[ReggieBush22]

Originally Posted by packman80

LOL He's got over 12 sacks in each of his 4 years in the league. Only Reggie White has done that. Tell us you know nothing about football without telling us you know nothing about football.

One can sacrifice the ability to stop the run to rack up sacks. He's without a doubt one of 5 most explosive rushers off the edge EVER but every time I watch him, he underwhelms. Maybe I caught him in his bad games. I don't see that fire constantly that true GOAT tier rushers need. He comes off diva-ish to me also. I could be wrong but that's my take.

[packman80]

Contract is set up for 3 years with balloon cap numbers in year 4 & 5 making the Packers need to redo the contract before year 4 if they want to keep Parsons.

2025 Cap $9.97 million
2026 Cap $19.237 million
2027 Cap $26.8456 million
2028 Cap $64.2886 million
2029 Cap $68.2886 million

Void years $21.3746 million

[Siberian13]

Micah Parsons ranks second in PFF WAR since 2021. What is WAR good for?

[asujbl]

Originally Posted by Siberian13

Micah Parsons ranks second in PFF WAR since 2021. What is WAR good for?

It was his mistress that suggested he changed the name

[Dallas Cowboys]

To use the old Lloyd Bentsen quote about JFK: “I know Reggie White, I watched Reggie White play and you Micah Parsons are no Reggie White.”
This is not sour grapes talking.
I’m 48. I’ve been a Cowboys and pro football fan my whole life. Reggie White is one of my all time favorite players. They may have similar sack totals but Parsons is not near the disruptive force, run stopper and one of the all around great defensive players Reggie was.
I was reading some Packer forums last night and Packer fans think this was like when they got Reggie White in free agency. I promise you will be disappointed.
This is not White to the Packers or Haley to the Cowboys, or Deion to the Niners then the Cowboys.

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by asujbl

It was his mistress that suggested he changed the name

Change your name to OJ, it’s only two initials.

[asujbl]

Originally Posted by Siberian13

Change your name to OJ, it’s only two initials.

It was either OJ Riffken or Deion Riffken

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by asujbl

It was either OJ Riffken or Deion Riffken

It’s crazy that 7 months after that episode Nicole Brown was murdered

[oldgoldy97]

Originally Posted by asujbl

50% wrong

I said he would be the highest paid player. He is

I said there was no chance Dallas would let him leave because they aren’t idiots. Wrong

You said they aren’t idiots? I don’t read ALL your posts, maybe 98%. I missed that one.

Jerry Jones is a colossal idiot.

[asujbl]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

You said they aren’t idiots? I don’t read ALL your posts, maybe 98%. I missed that one.

Jerry Jones is a colossal idiot.

Pretzel

The Cowboys were giant idiots for this trade. I said they would never trade him

I said he would be the highest paid player ever. Check
I said the Cowboys would never be dumb enough to do what they did. No check

To clarify

[oldgoldy97]

Originally Posted by Dallas Cowboys

To use the old Lloyd Bentsen quote about JFK: “I know Reggie White, I watched Reggie White play and you Micah Parsons are no Reggie White.”
This is not sour grapes talking.
I’m 48. I’ve been a Cowboys and pro football fan my whole life. Reggie White is one of my all time favorite players. They may have similar sack totals but Parsons is not near the disruptive force, run stopper and one of the all around great defensive players Reggie was.
I was reading some Packer forums last night and Packer fans think this was like when they got Reggie White in free agency. I promise you will be disappointed.
This is not White to the Packers or Haley to the Cowboys, or Deion to the Niners then the Cowboys.

He’s like Herschel to the Vikes: a massive overpay.