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Old 09-24-2025, 12:41 PM   #1
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Default HOW IN THE WORLD? : '25-26 season around the corner; Fanatics releasing 2023 product?

https://www.topps.com/pages/topps-royalty-basketball

Forget about any potential (for lack of a proper description) legality-allowances or loopholes, more so; how do we, THE HOBBY,...ethically/morally/logically, condone & justify this?! Absolute, absurdity, to say so, mildly!?!

CLEARLY, this is nothing more than a exploitative, money-grab, by Craptastics & Bottoms, so as to...milk, the teats, outta' The Wemby Train! Personally speaking, I can't get behind unlicensed product(s), so while it doesn't necessarily impact me, one way or the other, still; it's just so blatantly obvious, what the cronies over @ Craptastics/Bottoms, are doing, here!?! Guess they gotta' do what they gotta' do,...to ~ the contracts on all of those...."Exclusive Signees", that they have under their belt!

Nevertheless; DISGUSTING, at "best", IMHO. What, say you?
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Old 09-24-2025, 01:04 PM   #2
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Maybe they’ll resurrect 2003-04 products and make some new LeBron rookies
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Old 09-24-2025, 01:40 PM   #3
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They couldn't wait a few more days to get logos?
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Old 09-24-2025, 01:51 PM   #4
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Do we really need more unlicensed wemby garbage?
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https://www.topps.com/pages/topps-royalty-basketball

Forget about any potential (for lack of a proper description) legality-allowances or loopholes, more so; how do we, THE HOBBY,...ethically/morally/logically, condone & justify this?! Absolute, absurdity, to say so, mildly!?!

CLEARLY, this is nothing more than a exploitative, money-grab, by Craptastics & Bottoms, so as to...milk, the teats, outta' The Wemby Train! Personally speaking, I can't get behind unlicensed product(s), so while it doesn't necessarily impact me, one way or the other, still; it's just so blatantly obvious, what the cronies over @ Craptastics/Bottoms, are doing, here!?! Guess they gotta' do what they gotta' do,...to ~ the contracts on all of those...."Exclusive Signees", that they have under their belt!

Nevertheless; DISGUSTING, at "best", IMHO. What, say you?
So don't buy it

That was easy

I am fascinated by what moral and ethical objections you have to this

I'll give you logical
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Old 09-24-2025, 01:58 PM   #6
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So don't buy it

That was easy

I am fascinated by what moral and ethical objections you have to this

I'll give you logical
tell me what the logic of releasing wembanyama rookies nobody wants on the even of his THIRD SEASON
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tell me what the logic of releasing wembanyama rookies nobody wants on the even of his THIRD SEASON
I just said it's not logical. You should read my post before you reply
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Old 09-24-2025, 02:43 PM   #8
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I just said it's not logical. You should read my post before you reply
Your post I quoted said nothing about that
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Old 09-24-2025, 02:46 PM   #9
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Need to see the back of the cards. I disagree generally with anachronism in cards, such as Panini printing a 2025 Cavaliers Lebron card, but as long as it says ‘2024-25 Panini’ on the back of the card, it isn’t ahistorical. But if Panini printed a Cavaliers Lebron card in 2025 which said ‘2016-17 Panini’ on the back…or made no mention of the year at all…I think that’s unethical bordering on false advertisement.

If these cards say 2025 on the back, no problem with it. If they say 2023-24 but are printed in 2025, it’s beyond misleading and should be taken off the market imo. A pillar of cards is that they are meant to reflect the period in which they are printed. Otherwise rookie cards wouldn’t be any more valuable than a player’s 15th season cards.
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Old 09-24-2025, 04:06 PM   #10
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Price is right. In for a case.
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Your post I quoted said nothing about that
It absolutely did

Now you’re scaring me. Are you OK?
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Old 09-24-2025, 09:32 PM   #12
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Beckett use too have balls and have rules around this. Look at 2001 UD Legends and 2002 Upper Deck inspirations. They use to get XRC designations and there was controversy for them labelling those cards as such as some felt it was released during the same season calendar and should be called RC's.

And now we get 2 seasons between releases and Beckett will happily designate them as RCs.
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Old 09-25-2025, 09:48 AM   #13
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Evidently, you missed the points & conveyances of my post!? For starters:

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So don't buy it
I clearly implied; I haven't the slightest of inclinations, to purchase this,...STUFF!

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I am fascinated by what moral and ethical objections you have to this
Pardon me, if YOUR ethics, morals, & values..."cease", or can be compromised, as it pertains to your hobby-endeavors. You mean to tell me that you sincerely believe that this is a solid-play, from Craptastics/Bottoms...?!!? Literally, TWO...SEASONS, REMOVED,...from present-day, relative to the...."STUFF", that Craptastics is preparing to hawk to us?! Brand-new,..."Rookie Cards", of Wemby,...as he's set to enter his THIRD, NBA SEASON...!?! Let me ask you this; where does it end...?!? Cooper Flagg,..."rookie cards", in 2028-29...?!? Arch RC's until 2030...?!!? Come on, man...!? And let's not ignore the elephant in the room!? You KNOW that Craptastics/Bottoms is doing this,...specifically/explicitly, because of Wemby! I'd stop just-short of wagering my bottom dollar; we ain't gonna' see any...."extraordinary", '24-25 basketball products (licensed or unlicensed),...from ANY cardboard companies!? WHY...?!? Well, the answer would be rhetorical!!

So as to be unmistakably clear, my..."gripe", (per se) isn't with the collectors buying the offerings of Craptastics. Hell; it's your money! Buy/collect whatcha' like. My argument lies with unscrupulous and circumventive behaviors by The Hobby Overlord! And with that in mind, I wholeheartedly stand by my last, in saying that this is nothing less than a utterly SCUMMY, MONEY GRAB, by Rubin & Co., and should not even be remotely interpreted, as anything else!?!

SCUMBAGARY,...at it's "best", from The Hobby Overlord!
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Old 09-25-2025, 10:07 AM   #14
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"Bottoms" is a top tier insult. I really enjoy it, actually. Well done.
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Old 09-25-2025, 10:18 AM   #15
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The backs of the cards do say 2024. We all remember during Covid how long things got delayed before release so maybe that's what happened, but I doubt that was the case here.
Just seems like they saw how popular the WNBA rookie royalty was and thought they should cash in on the Wemby hype just like the Caitlin hype.
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Old 09-25-2025, 10:28 AM   #16
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Man, if someone just would have questioned this in the weekly release thread.
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Old 09-25-2025, 10:46 AM   #17
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Evidently, you missed the points & conveyances of my post!? For starters:



I clearly implied; I haven't the slightest of inclinations, to purchase this,...STUFF!



Pardon me, if YOUR ethics, morals, & values..."cease", or can be compromised, as it pertains to your hobby-endeavors. You mean to tell me that you sincerely believe that this is a solid-play, from Craptastics/Bottoms...?!!? Literally, TWO...SEASONS, REMOVED,...from present-day, relative to the...."STUFF", that Craptastics is preparing to hawk to us?! Brand-new,..."Rookie Cards", of Wemby,...as he's set to enter his THIRD, NBA SEASON...!?! Let me ask you this; where does it end...?!? Cooper Flagg,..."rookie cards", in 2028-29...?!? Arch RC's until 2030...?!!? Come on, man...!? And let's not ignore the elephant in the room!? You KNOW that Craptastics/Bottoms is doing this,...specifically/explicitly, because of Wemby! I'd stop just-short of wagering my bottom dollar; we ain't gonna' see any...."extraordinary", '24-25 basketball products (licensed or unlicensed),...from ANY cardboard companies!? WHY...?!? Well, the answer would be rhetorical!!

So as to be unmistakably clear, my..."gripe", (per se) isn't with the collectors buying the offerings of Craptastics. Hell; it's your money! Buy/collect whatcha' like. My argument lies with unscrupulous and circumventive behaviors by The Hobby Overlord! And with that in mind, I wholeheartedly stand by my last, in saying that this is nothing less than a utterly SCUMMY, MONEY GRAB, by Rubin & Co., and should not even be remotely interpreted, as anything else!?!

SCUMBAGARY,...at it's "best", from The Hobby Overlord!
This post makes so much sense if you imagine Alex Jones saying it or that random boomer who shares conspiracy memes on Facebook
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Old 09-25-2025, 10:49 AM   #18
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The cards are ugly AF
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Old 09-25-2025, 01:31 PM   #19
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Still available on the Topps website even though it's priced below the major distributors (but not by much). This stuff will definitely drop in price after release.

This release did get me wondering: What 2023-24 Topps Bsk products had a "Guaranteed" Wemby auto in every case (chrome, sapphire,....)? I know there were a few but I don't remember. This product may fall into that category but I guess time will tell.
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Still available on the Topps website even though it's priced below the major distributors (but not by much). This stuff will definitely drop in price after release.

This release did get me wondering: What 2023-24 Topps Bsk products had a "Guaranteed" Wemby auto in every case (chrome, sapphire,....)? I know there were a few but I don't remember. This product may fall into that category but I guess time will tell.
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Topps Mercury.
Ya, that one I know for sure. I was wondering more about products that don't necessarily state it's guaranteed but people have figured out over time that it's basically one Wemby auto per case. I thought there were a few but my memory could be wrong
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Old 09-25-2025, 04:02 PM   #22
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big trash

cheese kitsch box, unlicensed AI design cards

im 100% the breakers and whatnot simps will love it
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They couldn't wait a few more days to get logos?
They are so stupid.

The only people dumber are those who buy this unlicensed trash.
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Old 09-25-2025, 06:06 PM   #24
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Were they printed in 2023 and are just now being sold?

Or printed in 2025 while being dated 2023-24?


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This post makes so much sense if you imagine Alex Jones saying it or that random boomer who shares conspiracy memes on Facebook
AND,...the most nonsensical,..in LITERAL terms (note: do you ACTUALLY know the 'literal definition' of the word, 'literal'...!!?) Reply-Of-The-Day goes to this,..."genius". (said, in the most blatantly obtuse ways, possible!)

FWIW, everything in my post, has valid points of contention, ya' knuckle-chuckle!?! Indeed, while you apparently don't..."agree with" or echo my sentiments, I assure you; they're ALL,...VALID!! Now go crawl under a rock!
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