🏈 🏈 🏈 2025 EVERYTHING COLLEGE FOOTBALL Dystopian Discussion Thread 🏈 🏈 🏈 - Page 79

Rbradleigh · 12-07-2025, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Big35Hurt

Ok let's go with that fairness angle. Make the G5 teams play more P4 teams so that the regular season schedules are more comparable.

If only it were that easy, the P4 don’t want to play G5. It’s a potential loss on the schedule with nothing to gain on their resume.

Big35Hurt · 12-07-2025, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BraveAtlanta

No three-loss team has ever made the College Football Playoff as an at-large selection.

No team has suffered multiple losses by 10+ points, either.

bama bias

No team was in the top 10 in FPI, SOR, and SOS like Bama.

Big35Hurt · 12-07-2025, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Rbradleigh

If only it were that easy, the P4 don’t want to play G5. It’s a potential loss on the schedule with nothing to gain on their resume.

A vast majority of P4 teams don't want to play more than one non-conference game against the P4. Playing more than one FCS school doesn't work either. That leaves a G5 team as the only option for that 3rd or 4th non-conference game.

Siberian13 · 12-07-2025, 01:26 PM

Thank you playoff committee for leaving Notre Dame out.

the mesiah · 12-07-2025, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Rbradleigh

At least today I’m happy the Canes are in and I get at least one more game to watch Bain, Mesidor and Beck. And do not have to watch a meaningless bowl game started by Williams and the prospects who are likely to transfer & portal out in a few weeks.

How do you not include Malachi Toney ..and you call yourself a Canes fan,

Fenway55 · 12-07-2025, 01:32 PM

We don't need to change the playoff format, what we need is for the ACC - and probably the other conferences as well - to change their tie breaker format. It was pathetic that a 5-loss school was playing for the conference championship. Then when that team won, they were deservedly left out.

They should have the highest ranked team be the tiebreaker determination. Miami should have played UVA yesterday.

Rbradleigh · 12-07-2025, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by the mesiah

How do you not include Malachi Toney ..and you call yourself a Canes fan,

Toney only a Frosh, ain’t going nowhere. He’d likely play in a meaningless game. Didn’t forget him, I said a few days ago I’m putting a few bucks on him to win 2026 Heisman once book offers

BraveAtlanta · 12-07-2025, 01:38 PM

ESPN just said bama got rewarded at #9 as if they won the SECC. Everyone sees the bias but bama fans.

the mesiah · 12-07-2025, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Rbradleigh

Toney only a Frosh, ain’t going nowhere. He’d likely play in a meaningless game. Didn’t forget him, I said a few days ago I’m putting a few bucks on him to win 2026 Heisman once book offers

How you seeing the Miami at A&M game playing out ?

jkampis · 12-07-2025, 01:38 PM

Pretty hilarious that Bama stays at 9 and gets to play one of the few teams they’d be a favorite to beat in the first round.

jkampis · 12-07-2025, 01:40 PM

It’s those darn Bama refs on the playoff committee.

BraveAtlanta · 12-07-2025, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Big35Hurt

No team was in the top 10 in FPI, SOR, and SOS like Bama.

bama has three losses, two by 10+ points. bama has the worst loss of any team ranked in the top 15 (fsu).

Fenway55 · 12-07-2025, 01:49 PM

For the gambling degenerates (like me):

Alabama at Oklahoma +1' (o/u 40')
JMU +21' at Oregon (o/u 50')
Tulane +15 at Ole Miss (o/u 57)
Miami +4' at ATM (o/u 51')

Rbradleigh · 12-07-2025, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by the mesiah

How you seeing the Miami at A&M game playing out ?

Forgive me for giving a non-answer, I know nothing of A&M, haven’t watched their games.
I do think Miami is finally hungry and will not have a problem of playing up to the competition.
Miami is solid on both LOS which should keep them in any game AND most importantly, I truly believe Cristobal has finally learned the lesson you have to play to win.
Beck has played in many big (sec) games in his career which helps. As always it will come down to fewest turnovers and a big play (Toney) or 2. Hard to believe Toney reclassified and just as easily could have been playing HS this season.

I’m assuming weather in College Station is perfect and so that’s a 0 factor.

Happy to have a rooting interest in a playoff game this year. 1st for Canes who still haven’t won an ACC championship

BraveAtlanta · 12-07-2025, 02:06 PM

False? Put down the bama moonshine and check the boxscore again. 7 penalties on 80 yards for UGA, one called on bama for 5 yards.

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Originally Posted by Cracktoast

False

Originally Posted by BraveAtlanta View Post
No it’s not SEC favoritism, it’s bama favoritism.

False

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In their recent 2025 SEC Championship clash, Georgia had 7 penalties for 68 yards, while Alabama had 4 penalties for 50 yards, with Georgia committing more infractions but Alabama giving up more yardage in that specific game

KhalDrogo · 12-07-2025, 02:53 PM

This is what happens when you expand to 12 teams. Some undeserving teams have to make it, because there isn’t ever going to be 12 real contenders for the title. Bama, Miami, JMU, and Tulane all get an eye roll at being in this.

Siberian13 · 12-07-2025, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

This is what happens when you expand to 12 teams. Some undeserving teams have to make it, because there isn’t ever going to be 12 real contenders for the title. Bama, Miami, JMU, and Tulane all get an eye roll at being in this.

I have no issues with Miami or Bama. They are better than JMU and Tulane. I’d switch JMU and Tulane for Notre Dame and Texas. Think that gets the best field possible.

mossoholic · 12-07-2025, 03:32 PM

This is a joke. I have no rooting or betting interest and here is my take.

Notre Dame should have been ahead of Bama and Miami. Miami should be in over Bama.

Notre Dame lost by 3 points, on the road, and the 1st game of the season to Miami. Everyone knows there is a home field advantage that is considered by everyone as 3 points. The loss was by 3. On the neutral site, the game was even.

Since then what has happened? Notre Dame has lost 1 game, to one of the best teams in the country, on the last play of the game, by 1 point. They have beaten everyone else by an average of 30 points a game. Miami lost to 2 average teams that have 4 losses.

For all the people saying Miami should be in over ND, you're in the analytics mean everything crowd. Analytics do not take the full situation into account. It's just yes or no. Miami beat Notre Dame, but they aren't taking into account where the game was played, how close the game was, and when. They are basically saying Miami could have lost to the 2 worst teams on their schedule by 50 points each, beat ND by 1 on a 60 yard hail mary with no time left, and Miami should still be in.

Bama has by far the worst loss of all 3 teams. And it was by 14 points to a team that lost 7 games. They had more losses than both Miami and ND. One of those other losses was by 21. According to the committee that title game didn't matter. That is unless Bama lost their QB. They could have lost by 50 but if their QB tore his ACL and they lost by 1, Bama would then be out.

If you want the title games to be meaningless for the losers, then don't have them. The title games only exist because of money. They want the money but the losses not to matter. It's ridiculous. If you don't want it to matter give up the money and don't have the games. Which they won't do.

Let's say everything I said above isn't true. Just go based off the committee's rankings the last few weeks then.

ND has been above Miami for several weeks. ND was at one point a few spots ahead. Now when neither of them play this week Miami finally jumps ND? How does that make any sense? Not a single team Miami played this week even played a game! How the hell can they jump a team when nothing for Miami or ND changed? So your rankings from last week and previous several weeks just meant nothing?

Bama was behind ND before beating Auburn. They beat an average team at the very end of the game and go ahead of ND. They somehow stay ahead even though they were supposedly barely ahead by losing the title game by 21 and it wasn't even that close.

I just heard that their claim is now ND vs Miami head to head matters because BYU lost and miami vs ND are now head to head in the rankings. How does that matter? For 1, BYU is penalized for losing in their title game but Bama isn't? Second if BYU wins then Miami vs ND doesn't matter. BYU and Texas Tech would have both been in. Bama is ahead of ND and Miami. Bama would have been in. Either way, ND is out.

ND had been in the playoffs with the committee rankings system for several weeks. They were last week. No matter what the conference title game results were, according to how the committee said they evaluated this week ND would have been out no matter what. Including to teams that didn't play and had no opponents that were playing this week. How does that make sense? The committee is an absolute joke.

Fenway55 · 12-07-2025, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Big35Hurt

No team was in the top 10 in FPI, SOR, and SOS like Bama.

The FPI is beyond worthless. Notre Dame is the #3 team in the FPI, behind only OSU and Indiana.

Big35Hurt · 12-07-2025, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Fenway55

The FPI is beyond worthless. Notre Dame is the #3 team in the FPI, behind only OSU and Indiana.

I am not disagreeing, but guessing the CFP uses all three metrics to some extent.

Cracktoast · 12-07-2025, 05:28 PM

LOL@Notre Dame refusing to play a bowl game because they got butt hurt

IMO if you are Bowl Eligible and get picked to play and refuse then you are disqualified from the Playoffs and/or a Bowl game the following season. Stop this 2 yr old hissy fit nonsense.

Big35Hurt · 12-07-2025, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Cracktoast

LOL@Notre Dame refusing to play a bowl game because they got butt hurt

IMO if you are Bowl Eligible and get picked to play and refuse then you are disqualified from the Playoffs and/or a Bowl game the following season. Stop this 2 yr old hissy fit nonsense.

This isn't the first time they have declined a bowl invite. They did it following the 1996 and 2009 seasons.

hairysasquatch · 12-07-2025, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Cracktoast

LOL@Notre Dame refusing to play a bowl game because they got butt hurt

IMO if you are Bowl Eligible and get picked to play and refuse then you are disqualified from the Playoffs and/or a Bowl game the following season. Stop this 2 yr old hissy fit nonsense.

Aren't they also throwing away bowl practices by doing this? That seems pretty stupid, no?

Fenway55 · 12-07-2025, 05:43 PM

It's hilarious how 2 bowl eligible teams opted out of bowl games this year and not a single word of criticism was levied - in fact I'd bet anything that no one in here even knew about it or could tell me the teams without looking them up.

But when Notre Dame does it, all the haters lose their minds....

cdub6238 · 12-07-2025, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Fenway55

It's hilarious how 2 bowl eligible teams opted out of bowl games this year and not a single word of criticism was levied - in fact I'd bet anything that no one in here even knew about it or could tell me the teams without looking them up.

But when Notre Dame does it, all the haters lose their minds....

I've been critical of ND and their ranking..

But I don't blame them 1 bit, they should be absolutely pissed at the outcome

There is 0 way...Alabama should've stayed pat at 9....when ND beat the crap out of Stanford and was jumped by a 7 point win against Auburn...and then Bama getting destroyed yesterday

And being ahead of Miami all rankings long, but being jumped when both teams didn't even play?

I don't know what the agenda was, but it was clear there was 1

12-07-2025, 01:26 PM	#1954
Siberian13 Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 80,610 shiller13	Thank you playoff committee for leaving Notre Dame out. __________________ Took their ball and went home

12-07-2025, 01:38 PM	#1958
BraveAtlanta Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: BullDawg Country Posts: 1,043	ESPN just said bama got rewarded at #9 as if they won the SECC. Everyone sees the bias but bama fans. __________________ How Bout Them DAWGS Go BRAVES

12-07-2025, 02:53 PM	#1966
KhalDrogo Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 41,523	This is what happens when you expand to 12 teams. Some undeserving teams have to make it, because there isn’t ever going to be 12 real contenders for the title. Bama, Miami, JMU, and Tulane all get an eye roll at being in this. __________________ I love PSA!

12-07-2025, 03:32 PM	#1968
mossoholic Member Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 6,665	This is a joke. I have no rooting or betting interest and here is my take. Notre Dame should have been ahead of Bama and Miami. Miami should be in over Bama. Notre Dame lost by 3 points, on the road, and the 1st game of the season to Miami. Everyone knows there is a home field advantage that is considered by everyone as 3 points. The loss was by 3. On the neutral site, the game was even. Since then what has happened? Notre Dame has lost 1 game, to one of the best teams in the country, on the last play of the game, by 1 point. They have beaten everyone else by an average of 30 points a game. Miami lost to 2 average teams that have 4 losses. For all the people saying Miami should be in over ND, you're in the analytics mean everything crowd. Analytics do not take the full situation into account. It's just yes or no. Miami beat Notre Dame, but they aren't taking into account where the game was played, how close the game was, and when. They are basically saying Miami could have lost to the 2 worst teams on their schedule by 50 points each, beat ND by 1 on a 60 yard hail mary with no time left, and Miami should still be in. Bama has by far the worst loss of all 3 teams. And it was by 14 points to a team that lost 7 games. They had more losses than both Miami and ND. One of those other losses was by 21. According to the committee that title game didn't matter. That is unless Bama lost their QB. They could have lost by 50 but if their QB tore his ACL and they lost by 1, Bama would then be out. If you want the title games to be meaningless for the losers, then don't have them. The title games only exist because of money. They want the money but the losses not to matter. It's ridiculous. If you don't want it to matter give up the money and don't have the games. Which they won't do. Let's say everything I said above isn't true. Just go based off the committee's rankings the last few weeks then. ND has been above Miami for several weeks. ND was at one point a few spots ahead. Now when neither of them play this week Miami finally jumps ND? How does that make any sense? Not a single team Miami played this week even played a game! How the hell can they jump a team when nothing for Miami or ND changed? So your rankings from last week and previous several weeks just meant nothing? Bama was behind ND before beating Auburn. They beat an average team at the very end of the game and go ahead of ND. They somehow stay ahead even though they were supposedly barely ahead by losing the title game by 21 and it wasn't even that close. I just heard that their claim is now ND vs Miami head to head matters because BYU lost and miami vs ND are now head to head in the rankings. How does that matter? For 1, BYU is penalized for losing in their title game but Bama isn't? Second if BYU wins then Miami vs ND doesn't matter. BYU and Texas Tech would have both been in. Bama is ahead of ND and Miami. Bama would have been in. Either way, ND is out. ND had been in the playoffs with the committee rankings system for several weeks. They were last week. No matter what the conference title game results were, according to how the committee said they evaluated this week ND would have been out no matter what. Including to teams that didn't play and had no opponents that were playing this week. How does that make sense? The committee is an absolute joke. Last edited by mossoholic; 12-07-2025 at 06:09 PM. Reason: edit

12-07-2025, 05:28 PM	#1971
Cracktoast Member Join Date: May 2024 Posts: 2,110	LOL@Notre Dame refusing to play a bowl game because they got butt hurt IMO if you are Bowl Eligible and get picked to play and refuse then you are disqualified from the Playoffs and/or a Bowl game the following season. Stop this 2 yr old hissy fit nonsense. Last edited by Cracktoast; 12-07-2025 at 05:32 PM.

12-07-2025, 01:32 PM	#1956
Fenway55 Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Posts: 7,333	We don't need to change the playoff format, what we need is for the ACC - and probably the other conferences as well - to change their tie breaker format. It was pathetic that a 5-loss school was playing for the conference championship. Then when that team won, they were deservedly left out. They should have the highest ranked team be the tiebreaker determination. Miami should have played UVA yesterday.

12-07-2025, 01:38 PM	#1960
jkampis Member Join Date: Dec 2020 Posts: 1,602	Pretty hilarious that Bama stays at 9 and gets to play one of the few teams they’d be a favorite to beat in the first round.

12-07-2025, 01:40 PM	#1961
jkampis Member Join Date: Dec 2020 Posts: 1,602	It’s those darn Bama refs on the playoff committee.

12-07-2025, 01:49 PM	#1963
Fenway55 Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Posts: 7,333	For the gambling degenerates (like me): Alabama at Oklahoma +1' (o/u 40') JMU +21' at Oregon (o/u 50') Tulane +15 at Ole Miss (o/u 57) Miami +4' at ATM (o/u 51')

12-07-2025, 05:43 PM	#1974
Fenway55 Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Posts: 7,333	It's hilarious how 2 bowl eligible teams opted out of bowl games this year and not a single word of criticism was levied - in fact I'd bet anything that no one in here even knew about it or could tell me the teams without looking them up. But when Notre Dame does it, all the haters lose their minds....