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[Jaypers]

Originally Posted by Jaypers

Cody (my pick to win)
Jacob

After thinking about this more, I'm going to revise my EC prediction a bit. I think Drew will get involved again and lead to a non-finish between Cody and Jacob at the conclusion of the EC match, ultimately leading to a triple threat.

[mtr]

Originally Posted by Cracktoast

Because the match went10 min too long. No reason that match needed multiple commercial breaks.

The Bellas just need to realize nobody thinks of them as Milf's and just go back to wherever they were.

And on a side note, is the IC title so insignificant that Dom has been out all this time and nobody gave a second thought about the title? To be honest I had forgotten he even had it.

Best segment of the night for me was Gunther. That guy is playing his character flawlessly. Props to Dragon Lee also for making people think Gunther had really killed him by hanging him.

Roman/Punk has potential to be the best match at WM but I fear they are going to screw it up by throwing Balor in there to make it a 3 way and have Balor end up winning because nobody respects him and underestimates him. Just do Punk/Balor at EC and blow it off so we can get to WM. Great feud but wrong timing Punk/Balor should be a after Mania into the summer feud.

There’s zero chance that Finn is involved in the Punk/Roman match. He’s just keeping Punk busy until Mania.

[bjho852]

Originally Posted by thenightman

My guess is that it’ll be Dom vs Balor at WM for the IC title

I love this if it happens. Balor was on the cusp of winning it until Dom frog-splashed and pinned him at 'Mania last year.

It's also time to have Balor be a serious wrestler contending for single belts again (even if not outright turning him face), maybe even for top-tier titles sometime down the line. Taking the IC title and leaving JD will be the first steps.

[Jericho]

Originally Posted by Cracktoast

i just wish Roman had said something about Larry other than referencing the bracelet. Guess it was too soon.

I was hoping Punk would have mentioned how Roman was crying over a necklace and his sneakers.

[thenightman]

Originally Posted by Jaypers

I think we'd see from him what we saw in the Rumble - lots of dominance but ultimately falling short. He could probably beat half the guys in the Chamber first, though. I'm betting we're getting a slow build to the top of the card, sort of like Breakker.

That's not the story you want to tell a month into his run on the main roster. Sorry.

[thenightman]

Originally Posted by bjho852

I love this if it happens. Balor was on the cusp of winning it until Dom frog-splashed and pinned him at 'Mania last year.

It's also time to have Balor be a serious wrestler contending for single belts again (even if not outright turning him face), maybe even for top-tier titles sometime down the line. Taking the IC title and leaving JD will be the first steps.

I think this is the year that Judgement Day actually implodes.

[JustinVerlander07]

If Oba isn't a massive star in fairly short order I'd be stunned. The aura, it factor etc is just off the charts. Having only seen him at SNME, Royal Rumble and on RAW now, I'm just beyond impressed. (Also his card prices since SNME have gone up big time, making me regret not buying an Auto for the PC).

So strange to just quickly drop Nikki's heel run because Brie came back. It's probably better that way, even though I prefer Nikki to Brie and I don't think the crowd cares, but very Vince esq booking.

Wondering where they go with Raquel. I'm a fan. She could definitely be the next big heel on RAW.

Promo between Roman and Punk was absolutely fantastic. That's Reign's best promo since he dropped the belt to Cody and it wasn't close.

[mtr]

Anyone else feel like this whole Chelsea thing from Unreal is a work to get her over for a real singles run?

Chelsea Green on what Michael Hayes said about her during WWE Unreal: "You can’t help but be pissed off and a little upset and just aggravated at the fact that you thought that there was maybe a chance that there wasn’t that ceiling, that maybe it was all in your head, and then it was confirmed."

[thenightman]

Originally Posted by JustinVerlander07

If Oba isn't a massive star in fairly short order I'd be stunned. The aura, it factor etc is just off the charts. Having only seen him at SNME, Royal Rumble and on RAW now, I'm just beyond impressed. (Also his card prices since SNME have gone up big time, making me regret not buying an Auto for the PC).

I saw what he was going to become a year ago and I loaded up. All the big sales you're seeing are pretty much mine. I still have like 8 or 9 autos.

[Cracktoast]

Hendry finally wins the NXT Title but sadly at this point I feel WWE has wasted his peak popularity and by the time he finally gets a main roster call up which likely won't be until next year at the earliest he will be just another L.A Knight or Jevon Evans mid card type.

[JustinVerlander07]

Originally Posted by mtr

Anyone else feel like this whole Chelsea thing from Unreal is a work to get her over for a real singles run?

Perhaps a shoot turned into work, but I believe what Hayes said because that's how she's booked. She's been over enough for a while that it was believable (especially as a heel) for her to be womens champion already.

Originally Posted by thenightman

I saw what he was going to become a year ago and I loaded up. All the big sales you're seeing are pretty much mine. I still have like 8 or 9 autos.

Nice! I'll still get one, I'll just end up paying 50% more than 4 months ago, probably.

[mtr]

Originally Posted by JustinVerlander07

Perhaps a shoot turned into work, but I believe what Hayes said because that's how she's booked. She's been over enough for a while that it was believable (especially as a heel) for her to be womens champion already.

The booking for the Smackdown women’s world title has been so bad for so long, Chelsea would be a breath of fresh air. She’s been booked so weak that it’s hard to see her winning legit but she would be a great choice for the MITB briefcase.

[mlc3423]

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[mlc3423]

Originally Posted by JustinVerlander07

If Oba isn't a massive star in fairly short order I'd be stunned. The aura, it factor etc is just off the charts. Having only seen him at SNME, Royal Rumble and on RAW now, I'm just beyond impressed. (Also his card prices since SNME have gone up big time, making me regret not buying an Auto for the PC).

So strange to just quickly drop Nikki's heel run because Brie came back. It's probably better that way, even though I prefer Nikki to Brie and I don't think the crowd cares, but very Vince esq booking.

Wondering where they go with Raquel. I'm a fan. She could definitely be the next big heel on RAW.

Promo between Roman and Punk was absolutely fantastic. That's Reign's best promo since he dropped the belt to Cody and it wasn't close.

Sorry for the double post.....This one is easy IMHO......After being screwed over twice by Liv at the RR and then on Raw Raquel hangs around long enough until Liv's mania match with Stephanie and then screws over Liv to help Stephanie retain and then making Raquel a babyface.....As others have said Judgment Day is pretty well done for in 2026

[bjho852]

Originally Posted by mtr

The booking for the Smackdown women’s world title has been so bad for so long, Chelsea would be a breath of fresh air. She’s been booked so weak that it’s hard to see her winning legit but she would be a great choice for the MITB briefcase.

That's my thought as well regarding women's MITB. Chelsea's current character is a perfect fit.

Originally Posted by bjho852

After watching Unreal 2 and Hayes' comment about Chelsea Green's role, based on her work, she has to be a prime candidate to win MITB at some point. No?

[thenightman]

Originally Posted by thenightman

That looks like Grayson Waller.

Turns out, the masked man at RR was Grayson Waller.

[Cracktoast]

^^^^ What just because some podcast nobody has ever heard of said so ?

[Jaypers]

Finally!!! Jade defends against Jordynne next week.

[Jaypers]

Originally Posted by Jaypers

After thinking about this more, I'm going to revise my EC prediction a bit. I think Drew will get involved again and lead to a non-finish between Cody and Jacob at the conclusion of the EC match, ultimately leading to a triple threat.

Welp, seeing as Cody and Fatu are in the same qualifier match next week, another incorrect prediction.

[bjho852]

Originally Posted by Jaypers

Welp, seeing as Cody and Fatu are in the same qualifier match next week, another incorrect prediction.

Your predicted non-finish could still be in play though.

[bjho852]

I thought that Liv has already picked Stephanie Vaquer. Looks like not official yet.

[Cracktoast]

Already tired of the Oba squash matches. They need to put him in a legit feud quick and looks like it will be against Priest. Maybe Truth ends up getting destroyed and Priest makes the save or something similar.

Problem is the same issue WWE always has with these big monsters in that there is nobody else on the roster that could believably beat them or even compete with them. At least Priest matches up size wise but outside of that who besides Lesnar can stand up to Oba ?

[thenightman]

Originally Posted by Cracktoast

Already tired of the Oba squash matches. They need to put him in a legit feud quick and looks like it will be against Priest. Maybe Truth ends up getting destroyed and Priest makes the save or something similar.

Problem is the same issue WWE always has with these big monsters in that there is nobody else on the roster that could believably beat them or even compete with them. At least Priest matches up size wise but outside of that who besides Lesnar can stand up to Oba ?

I think the plan is to put him on Smackdown because if the plan is to put him on Raw there is nothing stopping them from doing that right now. Smackdown, on the other hand, currently has the EC qualifiers going on. If Oba was a member of the Smackdown roster fans would expect him to be in one of those qualifying matches.

WWE can't have that. It is WAY TOO EARLY to have him win EC and fight Drew at WM for the title. It is also WAY TOO EARLY to have him lose a match of any kind.

So, they'll do this "free agent" deal until after EC, after which he'll sign with Smackdown and immediately win the US title.

[JustinVerlander07]

Originally Posted by Cracktoast

Already tired of the Oba squash matches. They need to put him in a legit feud quick and looks like it will be against Priest. Maybe Truth ends up getting destroyed and Priest makes the save or something similar.

Problem is the same issue WWE always has with these big monsters in that there is nobody else on the roster that could believably beat them or even compete with them. At least Priest matches up size wise but outside of that who besides Lesnar can stand up to Oba ?

You want a big monster to debut by wrestling a 50/50 match against lower level opponents? Glad you aren't in charge!

[jmarascojr]

Originally Posted by thenightman

WWE can't have that. It is WAY TOO EARLY to have him win EC and fight Drew at WM for the title. It is also WAY TOO EARLY to have him lose a match of any kind.

Lesnar debuted in mid-March 2002, first match was in late April, won King of the Ring in late June and beat The Rock in late August...

First televised/PPV match to title was 4 months, so it's feasible if they want to do it...

I can't honestly think of anyone who went from debut to top title quicker...