Why is Running Up the Score Frowned Upon in the NFL?

Zacky1053 · 11-19-2012, 03:54 PM

No one cares when Oregon beats North Southwestern Montana State 79-0 in college football but when the Patriots beat the Colts 59-24 (in a game that was competitive early) it's a disgrace.

And it's not just about the Gronk injury I've heard the Pats criticized for this before.

I'm confused.

zonacats8 · 11-19-2012, 03:58 PM

Because when Oregon does something like that, the second half of those points is from backups who don't get to play much and generally done by running it almost every play.

In the NFL it's just a bit disrespectful to be passing when your up 20+ with 10 minutes to go

solt0131 · 11-19-2012, 04:02 PM

Would you want your 15 million dollar QB in the game throwing the ball around with 5 minutes left in the 4th quarter while up 28 points? Don't you think that increases the odds of a possible cheap shot by a 2nd or 3rd string guy?

Metsfan1121 · 11-19-2012, 04:04 PM

Also, I may be wrong but don't the margins of victory count in BCS rankings?

burke23 · 11-19-2012, 04:08 PM

Running up the score seems like a bad idea if you use your stars/starters to do it. I have no problem with trying to move the ball with a comfortable lead, but I don't want peyton manning's neck or AP's reconstructed knee on the field if I'm the coach.

I do think using trickery to pad the lead is a douche move though - that's pointless.

Grizz · 11-19-2012, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Metsfan1121

Also, I may be wrong but don't the margins of victory count in BCS rankings?

Not any longer for this very reason.

Clarka3 · 11-19-2012, 04:11 PM

if the backups are the ones in and still killing the other team, fair game. if you keep the starters in, enjoy speaking to the media when your star gets injured in garbage time.

Grizz · 11-19-2012, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Clarka3

if the backups are the ones in and still killing the other team, fair game. if you keep the starters in, enjoy speaking to the media when your star gets injured in garbage time.

Prime example - Derrick Rose.

indyguy · 11-19-2012, 04:12 PM

As a Colts fan, with the Patriots rivalry, I wasn't surprised they were still throwing the ball that late in the game. It didn't really tick me off seeing as how this rivalry has gone. But, I do find some solace in the fact that Gronk is out for a bit because of The Sweatshirt's greed.

Zacky1053 · 11-19-2012, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by indyguy

As a Colts fan, with the Patriots rivalry, I wasn't surprised they were still throwing the ball that late in the game. It didn't really tick me off seeing as how this rivalry has gone. But, I do find some solace in the fact that Gronk is out for a bit because of The Sweatshirt's greed.

Didn't a number of turnovers give them great field position in the second half though?

Tom Brady only had 320 passing yards or so so it's not like he was slinging it for 500 to run up his own numbers.

I didn't see the game so if I'm wrong let me know.

briscogun · 11-19-2012, 04:14 PM

It's not. You don't like losing 59 to whatever? Then stop 'em. If you are a football offense, and you have possesion of the ball, its your job to score. That's the object of the game. In college you can put your 2nd string in, and the pros do it, too, but mostly to avoid injury to the starters.

indyguy · 11-19-2012, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Grizz

Not any longer for this very reason.

But still could be used since part of the vote is human vote. Just isn't a "calculated adjustment" in the formula.

03supto · 11-19-2012, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Zacky1053

No one cares when Oregon beats North Southwestern Montana State 79-0 in college football but when the Patriots beat the Colts 59-24 (in a game that was competitive early) it's a disgrace.

And it's not just about the Gronk injury I've heard the Pats criticized for this before.

I'm confused.

because they're all "professionals" and they're supposed to act "like they've been there before"...

but i'm all about it if the other team is talking shlt....

indyguy · 11-19-2012, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Zacky1053

Didn't a number of turnovers give them great field position in the second half though?

Tom Brady only had 320 passing yards or so so it's not like he was slinging it for 500 to run up his own numbers.

I didn't see the game so if I'm wrong let me know.

There were two INTs in the second half. One returned 87 yards for a TD. One returned for 20 yards (I think) to around the NE 40. There were also big plays like Edelman's 47 yard run and 49 yard punt return. They were going to throw the ball regardless since that is their offense. I don't care if they scored all those points on offense, that is just what they do. I think all of NE's pass plays are designed for 11 yards. I got tired of hearing, "Player X catches the ball for 11 yards."

ernieren · 11-19-2012, 04:22 PM

Every time the Pats run up the score people get all ticked off that they kept playing the game. Sorry but this is the NFL your playing against top players!!! Your not #1 in college playing some no name team that has no chance at all. The game yesterday was very close. Then the Pats took control 45 -24 was still close for Luck to get his team back into it. You don't give up in in the Pro's until the end . I didn't see them going for it on 4th down or throwing bombs . It was all field position and the Pats moving the chains . People need to get over it these players make MILLIONS !!! Your defense should stop the team if not sorry about your luck. When the Bears whipped up on the Titans a few weeks ago i heard nothing on it. But when the Pats beat someone bad its all you hear.

indyguy · 11-19-2012, 04:24 PM

Don't forget, Ryan Mallet came in for the last series of the game for New England!

CUHATIN · 11-19-2012, 04:26 PM

When i read this Drew Brees and the saints came to mind. They can be up 40 and still taking shots down field.

Headbando5 · 11-19-2012, 04:52 PM

Screw it- run the score up I say! They're professionals playing professionals. Make a statement.

calculusdork · 11-19-2012, 04:55 PM

I don't understand what the big deal is either man, especially in a sport where many of the players regularly exemplify unsportsmanlike conduct and "me-first" attitudes.

Drdduet · 11-19-2012, 04:57 PM

It's not up to any one team to stop itself, it's up to the opposing team.

Pull the reins back to soon and a team risks a loss.

Zacky1053 · 11-19-2012, 04:59 PM

Baltimore faked a FG last week when they were up 41-17 late in the third that resulted in a TD.

If that were the Pats it would've been run down people's throats.

SacGWYNN19 · 11-19-2012, 05:17 PM

Karma = broken forearm. You don't run no huddle shotgun plays with 11 minutes to go in the 4th quarter when you are up by 21. That play cost Gronk the rest of the regular season, and that is pure ignorance.

asujbl · 11-19-2012, 05:21 PM

Guys might as well turn in their paychecks if they are just going to play half assed. Score 100. If the PROFESSIONAL defensive players can't stop you then they shouldn't be in the league to begin with.

RedSoxFan28 · 11-19-2012, 05:23 PM

Running up the score is fine unless you are on the other side of it. The Pat's didn't do any "trick" plays or cheap plays in the fourth. It's a grown mans game if you don't like that the other team is "running up" the score then stop them. Anyways reports have said Gronk had injured his forearm earlier in the game and played through it.

crd1224 · 11-19-2012, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SacGWYNN19

Karma = broken forearm. You don't run no huddle shotgun plays with 11 minutes to go in the 4th quarter when you are up by 21. That play cost Gronk the rest of the regular season, and that is pure ignorance.

21 isnt really that much, the way luck throws the ball they could score in 45 seconds. plus brady was running the ball until 3rd down when he passed to keep the drive alive. and also plays like the int's, punt returns and Edelmans run are just plays that happen, u dont plan for those. at that point they werent running up the score, they were taking all the mistakes that the colts made and just managing the game, the points just so happened to follow.

11-19-2012, 03:58 PM	#2
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11-19-2012, 04:08 PM	#5
burke23 Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 5,249 burke23	Running up the score seems like a bad idea if you use your stars/starters to do it. I have no problem with trying to move the ball with a comfortable lead, but I don't want peyton manning's neck or AP's reconstructed knee on the field if I'm the coach. I do think using trickery to pad the lead is a douche move though - that's pointless. __________________ * Looking for high end defensive Cracked Ice Auto and Topps Chrome Red Ref Non-Auto RC *Also LF 1997 PMG Red FB and star Non-Auto Topps Chrome Red Refractor rc

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Clarka3 Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 17,877 Clarka3 Clarka3	if the backups are the ones in and still killing the other team, fair game. if you keep the starters in, enjoy speaking to the media when your star gets injured in garbage time. __________________ Luke Kuechly Collector pending: w8lifter28 (custom), Don't ask me how much I want to offer. Come with a price in mind. If I don't want it or think it's worth that, I will let you know.

11-19-2012, 04:14 PM	#11
briscogun Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 4,668 Briscogun	It's not. You don't like losing 59 to whatever? Then stop 'em. If you are a football offense, and you have possesion of the ball, its your job to score. That's the object of the game. In college you can put your 2nd string in, and the pros do it, too, but mostly to avoid injury to the starters. __________________ "I see great things in baseball. It's our game--the American game. It will take our people out-of-doors, fill them with oxygen, give them a larger physical stoicism. Tend to relieve us from being a nervous, dyspeptic set. Repair these losses, and be a blessing to us." -Walt Whitman

11-19-2012, 04:22 PM	#15
ernieren Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: LWR FL Posts: 3,289 dow_wholesale ekhobbyshop	Every time the Pats run up the score people get all ticked off that they kept playing the game. Sorry but this is the NFL your playing against top players!!! Your not #1 in college playing some no name team that has no chance at all. The game yesterday was very close. Then the Pats took control 45 -24 was still close for Luck to get his team back into it. You don't give up in in the Pro's until the end . I didn't see them going for it on 4th down or throwing bombs . It was all field position and the Pats moving the chains . People need to get over it these players make MILLIONS !!! Your defense should stop the team if not sorry about your luck. When the Bears whipped up on the Titans a few weeks ago i heard nothing on it. But when the Pats beat someone bad its all you hear. __________________ Collect Drew Bledsoe, 2012 topps Chrome , 91 Stadium Club football PSA graded. 1993 SP Football PSA

11-19-2012, 03:54 PM	#1
Zacky1053 Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 22,750 Zacky1053	Why is Running Up the Score Frowned Upon in the NFL? No one cares when Oregon beats North Southwestern Montana State 79-0 in college football but when the Patriots beat the Colts 59-24 (in a game that was competitive early) it's a disgrace. And it's not just about the Gronk injury I've heard the Pats criticized for this before. I'm confused. __________________ If you put “the” and “IRS” together, it spells “theirs”.

11-19-2012, 04:02 PM	#3
solt0131 Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 9,139 PghSportsCards	Would you want your 15 million dollar QB in the game throwing the ball around with 5 minutes left in the 4th quarter while up 28 points? Don't you think that increases the odds of a possible cheap shot by a 2nd or 3rd string guy?

11-19-2012, 04:04 PM	#4
Metsfan1121 Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: long island Posts: 5,317 metsfan1121	Also, I may be wrong but don't the margins of victory count in BCS rankings?

11-19-2012, 04:12 PM	#9
indyguy Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 8,512 arndru indyguyat	As a Colts fan, with the Patriots rivalry, I wasn't surprised they were still throwing the ball that late in the game. It didn't really tick me off seeing as how this rivalry has gone. But, I do find some solace in the fact that Gronk is out for a bit because of The Sweatshirt's greed.

11-19-2012, 04:24 PM	#16
indyguy Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 8,512 arndru indyguyat	Don't forget, Ryan Mallet came in for the last series of the game for New England!

11-19-2012, 04:26 PM	#17
CUHATIN Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,412	When i read this Drew Brees and the saints came to mind. They can be up 40 and still taking shots down field.

11-19-2012, 04:52 PM	#18
Headbando5 Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Midwest. Posts: 1,410 headbando5	Screw it- run the score up I say! They're professionals playing professionals. Make a statement.

11-19-2012, 04:55 PM	#19
calculusdork Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Nowheresville Posts: 26,683 calculusdork calculusdork	I don't understand what the big deal is either man, especially in a sport where many of the players regularly exemplify unsportsmanlike conduct and "me-first" attitudes.

11-19-2012, 04:57 PM	#20
Drdduet Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,706	It's not up to any one team to stop itself, it's up to the opposing team. Pull the reins back to soon and a team risks a loss.

11-19-2012, 04:59 PM	#21
Zacky1053 Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 22,750 Zacky1053	Baltimore faked a FG last week when they were up 41-17 late in the third that resulted in a TD. If that were the Pats it would've been run down people's throats. __________________ If you put “the” and “IRS” together, it spells “theirs”.

11-19-2012, 05:17 PM	#22
SacGWYNN19 Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 3,322	Karma = broken forearm. You don't run no huddle shotgun plays with 11 minutes to go in the 4th quarter when you are up by 21. That play cost Gronk the rest of the regular season, and that is pure ignorance.

11-19-2012, 05:21 PM	#23
asujbl Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 63,756 ohiosundevils	Guys might as well turn in their paychecks if they are just going to play half assed. Score 100. If the PROFESSIONAL defensive players can't stop you then they shouldn't be in the league to begin with. __________________ https://ohiosundevils.smugmug.com/ Browns/Cavs/Tribe/Buckeyes/Jackets/Devils TheFrenzy - “Blowout ain't a place for normies”

11-19-2012, 05:23 PM	#24
RedSoxFan28 Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Maine Posts: 12,550	Running up the score is fine unless you are on the other side of it. The Pat's didn't do any "trick" plays or cheap plays in the fourth. It's a grown mans game if you don't like that the other team is "running up" the score then stop them. Anyways reports have said Gronk had injured his forearm earlier in the game and played through it. __________________ #FreeBrady