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Mayweather by decision. Thanks for the contest.
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I would have went Mayweather UD 12, because I don't believe there's a boxer in the world who can win a decision over Floyd, so obviously you'd need a KO, which, given Floyd's defense, is almost, or so far, absolutely IS impossible. I thought Mayweather was overwhelmed, initially, by Maidana's aggressiveness, and although he was more accurate, the fact that Maidana doubled the punch output in almost (?) every category was huge. The reason I say that is because, yes, Floyd landed shots, and had some good shots, they were few and far between, to Marcos' shots. Floyd, imo, was given credit for every possible shot, and Maidana landed more (IMO!!!) body shots than he was given credit for, which was big. I've been a boxing fan all of my life (30+ years), and Floyd is, in one word, AMAZING. I'm not a huge fan of his, but he's the greatest of my lifetime. He's incredible...with that said, if you took the entirety of the fight (36 minutes), Maidana won the majority of it. I felt Floyd was given credit for rounds in which he improved, over the previous round (or two), and I also was absolutely disgusted with Tony Weeks. Let me rant: Tony Weeks is, by far, one of the best referees in the sport. I think he is fair. I think he is intelligent. I think he is just great...but tonight, he absolutely sucked. I thought he was absolutely, whether intentionally or not, set on breaking the fighters at the slightest hint of a clinch. That's not HIM! He is a ref who will let you fight, and tonight, he was waaaaaaay too quick to break up in close quarter. A clinch is one thing, but as soon as Floyd would tie up ONE ARM of Maidana's, it was a break. Floyd is holding, Maidana is punching...let. them. fight. PLEASE. ALSO, the warnings Maidana got were pretty fair, except for the fact that Weeks warned Floyd, I think, for his use of elbows/forearms to push off (FINALLY!), yet failed to follow up...and the clinching was horrendous, because it was intentional, with no regard for the continuation of the action, by...FLOYD. Big surprise. SMART, yes...but don't warn Maidana if you're not going to make it an even playing field for Maidana, Tony. I don't have an issue with the decision; it wasn't a robbery. It wasn't Bradley/Pacquiao I. BUT, I scored it for Maidana, and I felt that there was NO WAY Maidana would win without the KO. Floyd was SO uncomfortable in this fight, it was amazing to watch. I loved the commentators (Paulie, Bernstein, etc.) talking about the ''adjustments'' Floyd made, the fact that he ''made it a fight''...LOL @ THAT. He FOUGHT because Marcos made him fight. Period. Marcos Maidana is NO WHERE NEAR FLOYD as a boxer. NOT EVEN CLOSE. Floyd is head and shoulders above him and every other boxer in his weight class, and ANY weight class close to his...but tonight, if he won, it was as close as ANY fight in recent memory for him. Castillo, Cotto, Judah...they all had chances, and all could stake a claim...well, maybe not Judah, but tonight, MAIDANA deserved a win, or at least a draw, in my eyes. I WILL PAY FOR A REMATCH. I DO NOT want to see Mayweather vs. Khan. Floyd will wipe the canvas with Amir's face. /game over.
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BTW, sorry for the rant, thanks for the contest, and whoevers wins, congrats.
Again, thanks to the OP.
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Excellent insight. That was a great read. I agree with everything you just said.
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Floyd is amazing but greatest of your lifetime? Tyson would knock him out before the 3rd round 9 times out of 10, and by the 6th if Floyd was lucky enough to hold a tight stance that long.
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Wow. Great insight. What weight classes are we talking about? I'm slapping myself for even responding to you.
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Well since you said Floyd is the greatest of your lifetime I would think you meant "Greatest of your Lifetime". Guess you meant to say Greatest of a specific weight class in a couple years. Kinda like saying Manny is the greatest of your lifetime but limiting that to mean only guys that are exactly 5'6
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Look, if we want to do the whole ''this fighter vs. that fighter'', we can do that all day long.
Mike Tyson himself said he didn't think he'd be able to beat Floyd, unless Floyd was @ 140 and he was @ 240. Sarcastic or not, it came out of his mouth. I don't disagree that Tyson was a tremendous attraction, and while he was one of my favorites, he was crippled by the one thing that Floyd is: a boxer. Lennox Lewis ring any bells? Mulitiply that, boxing wise, by 100. That's Floyd Mayweather. So, yeah...you can have the 100lb weight advantage...that's like having a Finals series, Miami vs. OKC, and suspending Lebron and Wade. Fair? LOL
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p4p, Floyd Mayweather DESTROYS Mike Tyson. Period. End of story. They're not even in the same class. Floyd is a once in a generation fighter. Tyson... ...well, there's Buster Douglas. Lennox Lewis. There's...you get it. Floyd's had his opportunities to lay down. Diego Corrales, Zab Judah, Miguel Cottto, Juan Manuel Marquez...it hasn't happened. So, yeah...you can have your 100 lbs...p4p, it's not even close. For the record ((again)), I LOVE Tyson.
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Floyd could have taken Manny in their primes and he let that chance slip by because he was scared, Mike wasn't scared he would snort a line and go out there and throw hay makers. You cant be the Greatest of you continuously back down from the number 2 guy One guy counts on refs and dancing ability, one guy counts on his fists. Who knows what would happen but we are both entitled to our opinions on best of our lifetime and we disagree
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I don't feel like breaking down the story of Pacquaio/Mayweather, and why they didn't fight, but I'll toss a few things at you, and you can google it, since I know you're great at it:
Bob Arum PED testing/blood work/needles Purse Splits I didn't point out losses at the end of Tyson's career; Buster Douglas? You can use the ''coked out'' excuse; that proves my point. Floyd wouldn't destroy his body like that, and that's one of the reason's he's a p4p great. You dismiss the weight class like it means nothing; it proves everything. If you understood what a p4p list actually embodies, you'd understand why Tyson/Mayweather is a laughfest. The ''dancing'' line for Floyd is funny. Casual fans, or imbecile fans, who don't know anything about the sport, may believe that defense, ring generalship, and intelligence is ''dancing''...when the sport is BOXING, not Brad Pitt's ''Fight Club''. Sure, we love the blood and knockouts, but longevity, money, and success in BOXING means you know how to BOX, of which DEFENSE is vital. I'll bite on your ''one guy counts on refs and dancing ability, one guy counts on his fists'' comment, and counter it with this, and it hurts because I LOVE Tyson: Quote Me: ONE GUY COUNTS ON INFERIOR COMPETITION...ALA TYSON, AND ONE GUY HAS BEATEN ___ world champions...I'll let you fill in the blanks.
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Who won this contest?
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Just thought I'd comment on the Juan Manuel Marquez/Mike Alvarado fight tonight:
The undercard was horrendous: 11 fights (2 televised), and the undercard was garbage. Showtime is kicking your a s s HBO!!! Marquez, at his advanced age, showed why he is one of the greatest fighters of his generation. Bigger, stronger, younger Alvarado? LOL No chance. As far as skills, imo, he is 2nd to Mayweather in the last dozen or so years. He is absolutely great. It's like...Tim Duncan. So good, even at his age...and you put Lamarcus Aldridge against him, and he makes him look...amateur? Easy win, bring on the next one. (YES, that was a fanboy post, as Marquez is my favorite boxer of all time, but hey...it is what it is.) Where's my prize? lol
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Who won the contest?
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