2021 NBA Draft Discussion - Page 10

footfutbol · 06-27-2021, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by k13

None of them dominated anything.
Can't even score 20ppg.

Most average athletes.

Good thing NBA is easier.

Cade literally averaged 20ppg. Green averaged close to 20 in a professional league. They aren't Lebron, but it's a talented group.

smalltown · 06-27-2021, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by brothertona

So I saw a suggested trade Wiseman plus #7 and #14 for Pascal Siakam

I've seen it floated too. But it doesn't work. The only way for the Warriors to get Siakam would be:

Siakam + Boucher for Wiggins + Wiseman + Picks.

k13 · 06-27-2021, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by footfutbol

Cade literally averaged 20ppg. Green averaged close to 20 in a professional league. They aren't Lebron, but it's a talented group.

Barely 20ppg and that was just him.

None of them look like Lebron, Shaq, Zion, Durant
Even Wiggins and Ben Simmons had more hype.

Someone will turn out good but that happens every year.

jcardstore · 06-27-2021, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by k13

I'm sure I've watched more Cade games than most people here.
Not like that matters.

All the scouts in the world can't predict players futures.

I’d be surprised if you’ve ever done anything more than casually look at a box score for any sport

daeve · 06-29-2021, 08:37 AM

Jalen Green just followed back KPJr on ig....he only follows 85 people and is not following any Detroit/Cleve guys, so this seems somewhat significant - should make for an exciting young backcourt

smalltown · 06-29-2021, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by daeve

Jalen Green just followed back KPJr on ig....he only follows 85 people and is not following any Detroit/Cleve guys, so this seems somewhat significant - should make for an exciting young backcourt

Makes too much sense for them to take him.

brothertona · 06-29-2021, 09:23 AM

I mean a Mobley/Allen pairing is pretty exciting. If the idea of trading Sexton is still on the table you can move him to the Pelicans for #10 or you can keep him and have two potential lob threats for a young backcourt to take advantage of. If Okoro can take a step forward you've got your SF and you've got a strong defensive set with Sexton, Garland, Okoro, Mobley, Allen.

smalltown · 06-29-2021, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by brothertona

I mean a Mobley/Allen pairing is pretty exciting. If the idea of trading Sexton is still on the table you can move him to the Pelicans for #10 or you can keep him and have two potential lob threats for a young backcourt to take advantage of. If Okoro can take a step forward you've got your SF and you've got a strong defensive set with Sexton, Garland, Okoro, Mobley, Allen.

I’m not sure of the Allen/Mobley fit on the court at the same time. But it wouldn’t be bad to give Mobley a year behind Allen before moving on from him.

brothertona · 06-29-2021, 09:40 AM

Mobley right now at his size makes more sense at the PF position and he's already gotten comparisons to Bosh for his perimeter ability. To me you'd have a traditional center in Allen, with a potential unicorn in Mobley. I assume they'd have Mobley back up Kevin Love until they finally were able to move him.

sportzluvr1 · 06-29-2021, 09:41 AM

A guy like Lauri Markkanen would be an excellent fit for the Warriors and would not be overly expensive to obtain.

asujbl · 06-29-2021, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by smalltown

I’m not sure of the Allen/Mobley fit on the court at the same time. But it wouldn’t be bad to give Mobley a year behind Allen before moving on from him.

https://www.cleveland.com/cavs/2021/...rry-pluto.html

smalltown · 06-29-2021, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by asujbl

https://www.cleveland.com/cavs/2021/...rry-pluto.html

I’m not sure what to take from that “article” lol

All it said is the Cavs will pick someone lol

indyguy · 06-29-2021, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by smalltown

I’m not sure what to take from that “article” lol

All it said is the Cavs will pick someone lol

You disagree they will?!! lol

Randallk34 · 06-29-2021, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by indyguy

You disagree they will?!! lol

It's the Cavs, they may not get the pick in before the clock runs out

indyguy · 06-29-2021, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Randallk34

It's the Cavs, they may not get the pick in before the clock runs out

LOL, who did that in the NFL draft a while back? Was it the Vikings?

tjforce · 06-29-2021, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by brothertona

I mean a Mobley/Allen pairing is pretty exciting. If the idea of trading Sexton is still on the table you can move him to the Pelicans for #10 or you can keep him and have two potential lob threats for a young backcourt to take advantage of. If Okoro can take a step forward you've got your SF and you've got a strong defensive set with Sexton, Garland, Okoro, Mobley, Allen.

I'm not willing to call any defensive set with Sexton and Garland in it strong.

daeve · 06-29-2021, 11:30 AM

I can see Cavs going for suggs over Mobley... he's got the size for the wing/2, and since Garland/sexton are both 6'1/undersized for the wing, one will be gone this offseason.

Garland/suggs/okoro/Markannen/Jallen still makes a ton of sense to me.

Unless they really fall in love with Mobley and think they can move Jallen in a s&t, but I don't know how many teams will be clamoring for him... I could definitely see Pop wanting him, but there's a bunch of gettable centers that should be available this offseason, so I think that will limit the market for a guy like Jallen.

smalltown · 06-29-2021, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by daeve

I can see Cavs going for suggs over Mobley... he's got the size for the wing/2, and since Garland/sexton are both 6'1/undersized for the wing, one will be gone this offseason.

Garland/suggs/okoro/Markannen/Jallen still makes a ton of sense to me.

Unless they really fall in love with Mobley and think they can move Jallen in a s&t, but I don't know how many teams will be clamoring for him... I could definitely see Pop wanting him, but there's a bunch of gettable centers that should be available this offseason, so I think that will limit the market for a guy like Jallen.

I’ve come to accept and get excited about Suggs as the Raptors pick. So I can almost guarantee it won’t be him and won’t be surprised if the rockets or cavs take him. Lol

indyguy · 06-29-2021, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by smalltown

I’ve come to accept and get excited about Suggs as the Raptors pick. So I can almost guarantee it won’t be him and won’t be surprised if the rockets or cavs take him. Lol

I'm right there with you. I think he would be a GREAT fit for Toronto.

asujbl · 06-29-2021, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by daeve

I can see Cavs going for suggs over Mobley... he's got the size for the wing/2, and since Garland/sexton are both 6'1/undersized for the wing, one will be gone this offseason.

Garland/suggs/okoro/Markannen/Jallen still makes a ton of sense to me.

Unless they really fall in love with Mobley and think they can move Jallen in a s&t, but I don't know how many teams will be clamoring for him... I could definitely see Pop wanting him, but there's a bunch of gettable centers that should be available this offseason, so I think that will limit the market for a guy like Jallen.

If the Cavs take Suggs over Mobley then every single person in the organization should be fired. It would be an all-time bonehead move.

smalltown · 06-29-2021, 12:58 PM

"Report: Cavaliers Will Host Jonathan Kuminga for Private Workout, Prospect 'in the mix' at No. 3"

indyguy · 06-29-2021, 12:59 PM

Possible trade back target? Can't imagine they take him at 3.

smalltown · 06-29-2021, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by indyguy

Possible trade back target? Can't imagine they take him at 3.

Maybe with Toronto or Orlando... I don't think Kuminga falls past 5.

asujbl · 06-29-2021, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by smalltown

"Report: Cavaliers Will Host Jonathan Kuminga for Private Workout, Prospect 'in the mix' at No. 3"

He had a really good public workout the other day, apparently shot it very well (his biggest weakness), so the Cavs absolutely need to bring him in considering he is the best "fit" for the team of everyone. Barring a trade of Sexton or something where you do need another Guard.

I still think there is about a 2% chance, unless they trade down, but might as well see if you could pick up #5 and #8 (as an example) if you really think it's that close in value

Not even saying Orlando would do that, although I think they would, but just as an idea to not let Kuminga or Suggs get past you

daeve · 06-29-2021, 01:50 PM

I could see that, maybe I need to watch more tape on him but to me Kuminga seems a bit like a lesser Isaac, and they could really use a wing scorer like Green/suggs

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06-29-2021, 08:37 AM	#230
daeve Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: savannah GA Posts: 13,150 accrules	Jalen Green just followed back KPJr on ig....he only follows 85 people and is not following any Detroit/Cleve guys, so this seems somewhat significant - should make for an exciting young backcourt

06-29-2021, 09:23 AM	#232
brothertona Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 6,965 brothertona1	I mean a Mobley/Allen pairing is pretty exciting. If the idea of trading Sexton is still on the table you can move him to the Pelicans for #10 or you can keep him and have two potential lob threats for a young backcourt to take advantage of. If Okoro can take a step forward you've got your SF and you've got a strong defensive set with Sexton, Garland, Okoro, Mobley, Allen.

06-29-2021, 09:40 AM	#234
brothertona Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 6,965 brothertona1	Mobley right now at his size makes more sense at the PF position and he's already gotten comparisons to Bosh for his perimeter ability. To me you'd have a traditional center in Allen, with a potential unicorn in Mobley. I assume they'd have Mobley back up Kevin Love until they finally were able to move him.

06-29-2021, 11:30 AM	#242
daeve Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: savannah GA Posts: 13,150 accrules	I can see Cavs going for suggs over Mobley... he's got the size for the wing/2, and since Garland/sexton are both 6'1/undersized for the wing, one will be gone this offseason. Garland/suggs/okoro/Markannen/Jallen still makes a ton of sense to me. Unless they really fall in love with Mobley and think they can move Jallen in a s&t, but I don't know how many teams will be clamoring for him... I could definitely see Pop wanting him, but there's a bunch of gettable centers that should be available this offseason, so I think that will limit the market for a guy like Jallen.

06-29-2021, 12:59 PM	#247
indyguy Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 8,512 arndru indyguyat	Possible trade back target? Can't imagine they take him at 3.

06-29-2021, 01:50 PM	#250
daeve Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: savannah GA Posts: 13,150 accrules	I could see that, maybe I need to watch more tape on him but to me Kuminga seems a bit like a lesser Isaac, and they could really use a wing scorer like Green/suggs