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Old 01-12-2022, 09:35 PM   #226
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While on the topic of what needs to be done, I agree, case, box, pack(s).

If a forger was smart enough they would have spent the funds to make sure each box had real packs on top (unopened) and if a check was done and open was opened, taking one off the top would still make it seem legit. Now that is IF the forger was smart enough. While they did put effort into this box (if fake) they missed steps and details so maybe they are not that bright.

What would be best imo is case/box/bottom pack search! Screw the top, top is obvious.
Bottom box too while you’re at it.
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Old 01-13-2022, 08:25 AM   #227
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I'm totally on board with this, at the end of the day, MeelyPops and CardKahuna have the most to lose here.

LP is gonna make his money, ha ha laugh at me so what, I'm still a millionaire DB.

Shyne, I really don't know much about him, but I could see him just being like "gimme my money" and he's done with it and moves on.

I really hope MP and CK held on to their profits from this sale, cause that's a big pile of money to have to pull out of nowhere, especially when you just lost all your credibility in the hobby...

Looking forward to the reveal...

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I think at this point it is going to be LP trying to capitalize on this to make some money (no surprise there and more power to him), Shyne looking at Meelypops and Cardkahuna like b*tches better get my money, and Meelypops, Cardkahuna, Pokejew and Steve acting like this was an amazing job by the scammer cause Oopsie you got us to try to save face in the hobby.
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Old 01-13-2022, 09:58 AM   #228
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Rattle does not take bribes though, even if those bribes are for credit/fame.

I hope rattle is silent only because he is in hospital and not because LP hype machine asked him to be because if so there goes his everyday man, just looking out for the community persona.

If he knows its fake and is staying silent, he IS for sale.
I don't get that sort of sense from Rattle at all. I don't think he really cares about that stuff and a big part of his channel is ousting scammers. His channel grew something like 4x over this I believe so I'm sure he is quite satisfied with that and being right.

If I had to guess I'd bet Gary asked him not to do a video yet and he doesn't want to burn that bridge. As dumb as Gary can be at times he still carries a lot of weight (pun intended) in the hobby even if he tries to play both sides all the time. Even if he did do a video it would just be a DM with a message it was fake, big spoiler for everyone and neener neener I was right. Doesn't seem like his style at all. If it's fake he'll do a video with clips, probably making fun of Steve, Meelypops and Cardkahuna and that will be the end of it. If it's real he'll analyze the hell out of it to either agree or disagree with their findings.

At the end of the day from the trailer it looks like everyone in the video that is opening this thing has something to lose and that is not good.

Honestly, LP should be sending him a gift or something for saving him $3.5 Million if what we all suspect is true but I don't see Rattle really caring about that.
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Old 01-13-2022, 10:26 AM   #229
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I’ve been really trying to follow of this and have read through the pages, but I’m still confused on Meelypops involvement in all of this. I could have easily just missed it, but would anyone mind just recapping how he was involved? Thanks.
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Old 01-13-2022, 10:38 AM   #230
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I’ve been really trying to follow of this and have read through the pages, but I’m still confused on Meelypops involvement in all of this. I could have easily just missed it, but would anyone mind just recapping how he was involved? Thanks.
He bought the case with cardkahuna. Brought it to BBCE to get wrapped. Then flipped it to shyne.
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Old 01-13-2022, 10:40 AM   #231
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He bought the case with cardkahuna. Brought it to BBCE to get wrapped. Then flipped it to shyne.
Ah, got it! Thank you!
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Old 01-13-2022, 11:56 AM   #232
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The sad part about this is that the only way to really prove conclusively is to rip open some and make sure packs have legit cards in them. And even then that would prove one box but not necessarily the other five.

The second they put the knife into that seal and opened a flap that case is no longer considered a sealed factory case. That was what made this case (assuming it is legit) special in the first place. Now, best case scenario, he opens say one box inside that case and opens the packs to see what comes out and he’s left with five (we would assume are) legit factory sealed boxes. Still mega valuable but nowhere near as special as having the only known unmolested factory sealed case.

Maybe having the sealed case shouldn’t be as important as it is as the boxes themselves are the truly important items but that’s probably a separate debate.
Logic makes 100% sense.

But being how big this is in the communities eyes, does this get the trimmed Honus Wagner Treatment going forward if he does open one light pack out of one box and reseals the whole thing?

Would be interesting. Only if its real obviously.
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Old 01-13-2022, 12:07 PM   #233
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I’ve been really trying to follow of this and have read through the pages, but I’m still confused on Meelypops involvement in all of this. I could have easily just missed it, but would anyone mind just recapping how he was involved? Thanks.
This is the way I understand the story:
-meely and ck buy it for sub-$100k from some sketchy seller
-they immediately get it wrapped by BBCE to add a level of "legitimacy" to make up for numerous red flags
-they sell it to shyne for $2.7M ($450K/box)
-shyne sells it to LP for $3.5M
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Old 01-13-2022, 12:14 PM   #234
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This is the way I understand the story:
-meely and ck buy it for sub-$100k from some sketchy seller
-they immediately get it wrapped by BBCE to add a level of "legitimacy" to make up for numerous red flags
-they sell it to shyne for $2.7M ($450K/box)
-shyne sells it to LP for $3.5M
Thank you for this recap! It makes a lot more sense now.
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Old 01-13-2022, 01:39 PM   #235
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Has Meelypops commented on this? Would like to hear his side of the story on this for transparency.
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Old 01-13-2022, 01:44 PM   #236
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Has Meelypops commented on this? Would like to hear his side of the story on this for transparency.
Radio silence from all the parties involved except from Logan Paul tweeting the video yesterday and Rattle liking and retweeting the tweet. If this was a real case, they wouldn't be hiding like they are now. They will never talk about this again and hope people forget about it.
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Old 01-13-2022, 02:13 PM   #237
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Video is out now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8lmQ5Ls6bw

"I Lost $3,500,000 On Fake Pokémon Cards"...shocker
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Old 01-13-2022, 02:17 PM   #238
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Fake fake fake.
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Old 01-13-2022, 02:25 PM   #239
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Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
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Old 01-13-2022, 02:26 PM   #240
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Not shocked.. but nice to finally get the true reveal. To be duped by G.I. Joe packs is just crazy!
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Old 01-13-2022, 02:26 PM   #241
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Old 01-13-2022, 02:28 PM   #242
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Any guesses on what happens next?

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Old 01-13-2022, 02:32 PM   #243
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People throwing blame around and Steve Hart looks like a fool. This is the best entertainment in trading cards I have ever seen! Anyone that purchases cards and does breaks with Meelypops is a fool, he will financially see the hurt on this. PSA is probably on the phone with Steve Hart asking him to return all the sealed Pokemon product he has and will never allow him to grade Pokemon ever again. They might also seek payment from him if customers complain and seek refunds from sketchy BBCE authenticated Pokemon products.

Who wins here? Rattle! Logan Paul owes this guy big time!
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Old 01-13-2022, 02:34 PM   #244
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"Gi Joe, Gi Joe, It could have been anything else!"

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Old 01-13-2022, 02:34 PM   #245
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That was entertaining to watch I will say that lol
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Old 01-13-2022, 02:35 PM   #246
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Shyne, lookin upset, right to the BBCE guy sweating bombs: “I don’t buy that if it’s not BCCE wrapped”

BBCE guy: *GULP*
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Old 01-13-2022, 02:38 PM   #247
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great entertainment value
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Old 01-13-2022, 02:40 PM   #248
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Dam son.......
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Old 01-13-2022, 02:41 PM   #249
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https://twitter.com/cardprn/status/1387059493888950276

This video is hilarious in retrospect.
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Old 01-13-2022, 02:41 PM   #250
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Oops double post

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