Super Rare Arod Autograph Error Question 1:614,088 Packs

[mcgahee21nfl]

Originally Posted by 37Jetson

Why did I just waste my time replying to you? It is time for bed.

Good night. Maybe for the entire day tomorrow, while trying to dissect the wrongdoings of the 'cardboard peoples', you can state your opinion with fact and leave the name calling and ridiculous accusations at the door.

[GOWIFB]

Originally Posted by davepeters239

As we all know pack pulled autographs are certified and guaranteed to their authenticity by the card company.

The best way I can try to explain it is I am wanting to enforce that warranty or guarantee or COA by having this signed. Basically having an error that can be corrected, corrected.

Again even Topps says in the readers writes section of Beckett that if anyone has any of these cards contact them. They don't say it has to be pack pulled or anything.

Any collector in possession of these cards needs to contact our customer service department so we can resolve the situation.

You are not 'out' anything. When you purchased the card you bought it 'as is' with the auto missing. Dont give us this BS that you are just merely trying to have them correct an error. Your intention was to buy this card cheap and hope to force Topps to correct the error so you could turn a big profit on it. Since Topps isnt correcting the error now you want to try to score big by having Arod sign it then tamper with the card by affixing Topps Ceritified Auto stickers to it.

[davepeters239]

Originally Posted by Nick2317

He says he collects error cards of cards that were supposed to be autod and arent...so why the hard on to get this ONE card signed and not any others ......

Because I want out of the hobby I have actually recently emailed a bunch of companies to ask about getting cards fixed and was going to post the response in the other forums.

Out of Press Pass, Sage, Benchwarmers, Donruss / Playoff / Leaf / Panini only Benchwarmers responded.

When I relized what the arod was, the 1 of 1 I knew right away this was an error I wanted fixed. This was the best card from that set that year and the odds to pull it were 1:614,088 packs and according to the readers writes comments this was a card that did not get autographed because it had stuck to another card or something.

In December 2005 the original owner of this card wrote into Beckett magazine and Clay Luraschi responded. The response was that, "During production, chrome cards have a tendency to stick together. This is what most likely happened and an unknown number of unsigned cards were accidentally inserted into packs. Any collector in possession of these cards needs to contact our customer service department so we can resolve the situation."

Now I don't know if that was a true story by Topps or what but they did say it and it is in the Beckett magazine. It is also very clear that Topps says anyone in possession of them should contact them, which again I did.

It does not say only of you got it from a pack or this offer is only good for a year.

[davepeters239]

[QUOTE=luck15hope;3893697]OP's old high school card collecting club photograph. Thats David in the middle there with the green shirt . . . .


Making fun of others with disabilities is wrong and possibly against the law.

I suggest you stop right away.

[mcgahee21nfl]

Originally Posted by GOWIFB

You are not 'out' anything. When you purchased the card you bought it 'as is' with the auto missing. Dont give us this BS that you are just merely trying to have them correct an error. Your intention was to buy this card cheap and hope to force Topps to correct the error so you could turn a big profit on it. Since Topps isnt correcting the error now you want to try to score big by having Arod sign it then tamper with the card by affixing Topps Ceritified Auto stickers to it.

Chris, David never implied he was "out" anything. He also didn't purchase the card with any of these intentions. His intentions are CLEARLY what he stated to you in the paragraph you responded to.

HE WANTS TO ATTEMPT TO HAVE TOPPS CORRECT A CARD THAT TOPPS SHOULDN'T HAVE SCREWED UP IN THE FIRST PLACE.

Nothing more, nothing less. This is what he's told you. This is what he's doing. Stop the misinformation and bogus theories. You were wrong to say he said he pulled it from a pack first, and now you are wrong for saying he is doing something he clearly isn't doing.

[Ryan T.]

All this for MAYBE a $40 card (if he ever signed it.)

[mcgahee21nfl]

Originally Posted by Ryan T.

All this for MAYBE a $40 card (if he ever signed it.)

HAHAHAHA exactly. The OP doesn't even realize, that is the funny part of this all. He truly is genuinely just doing it to attempt to correct a wrong or mistake on Topps part. I think this is pretty noble. The OP has collected cards for many years, and has never made an sort of profit, and never has tried to. He is a collector in the true sense of the word.

To say he is ignorant, is an extreme understatement, and I can promise he will take no offense to that assessment.

I hope he stays around for a while, all will eventually love him. He hates sticker autos.

[luck15hope]

Originally Posted by Ryan T.

All this for MAYBE a $40 card (if he ever signed it.)

$40 card? No way man. The OP's card was supposed to be a super megafractor 1/1 autograph Supreme version that nobody was ever supposed to know about. Id estimate it at about $2.5 million if it were autographed and had the correct stickers.

[Imac7065]

How come this forum always turns a stupid thread into a giant personal attack on the person who wrote it? Geez


On a side note.. the male teacher in the special ed class photo looks just a LITTLE too happy to be there... just sayin (love the real life Mr. Mackey on the front left though lol)

[swatko4]

Lol @ people actually responding to this guy

[monkeymcgee]

Wow--we may have just hit rock bottom

[luck15hope]

Originally Posted by davepeters239

Making fun of others with disabilities is wrong and possibly against the law.

I suggest you stop right away.

In the same sense that your card is possibly the superfractor 1/1 error card . . . . . .Right? I follow you now.

[luck15hope]

OP looking back on this thread and saying . . . . .

[swatko4]

LjMaya is that you?!???

[Imac7065]

Mr. Mackey...

[armyatc22]

Originally Posted by luck15hope

Does that pop report include the autographed versions??

Man this thread blew up after I thought it was over after showing the pop report of all the Arod cards that are graded from 2005 Bowman chrome

No auto has been graded or Superfractor 1/1 look at the pop report again

Your card is in fact a common reproduction

[luck15hope]

next page please . . . . . .

[free2131]

Originally Posted by davepeters239

When I relized what the arod was, the 1 of 1 I knew right away this was an error I wanted fixed.

Except it isn't.

I understand your want to have a really expensive card, but you honestly don't. You have been given many examples of other cards EXACTLY like yours, but you refuse to believe your's isn't the 1/1. You been given evidence that the 1/1 was a Superfractor, yet you claim that it isn't true and your card is the 1/1. There is a word for that. There is also an interesting article you may want to check out that involves your mindset.

I'm sorry that this card isn't what you think and/or want it to be, and I hope when you eventually accept the fact that it isn't you won't be too depressed about it.

[THE(NEXT)LEVEL]

I posted the other one. These are extra non autographed copies that were printed by Topps and backdoored. Does the OP really think Topps only printed one of these cards to auto? This is the dumbest thread ever. Topps produces more than one copy of their Superfractors!

[blake03svtf]

in the OP's defense all other cards besides the scan on pg1 are non auto versions of this card

[GOWIFB]

Originally Posted by mcgahee21nfl

Chris, David never implied he was "out" anything. He also didn't purchase the card with any of these intentions. His intentions are CLEARLY what he stated to you in the paragraph you responded to.

HE WANTS TO ATTEMPT TO HAVE TOPPS CORRECT A CARD THAT TOPPS SHOULDN'T HAVE SCREWED UP IN THE FIRST PLACE.

Nothing more, nothing less. This is what he's told you. This is what he's doing. Stop the misinformation and bogus theories. You were wrong to say he said he pulled it from a pack first, and now you are wrong for saying he is doing something he clearly isn't doing.

It has gone beyond that point where he just wants Topps to correct it. Like I said maybe Topps did originally screw up and insert it into a pack without the auto, maybe they didnt and it was backdoored as some have suggested. Regardless, he has made his attempts to get it rectified and Topps hasnt done anything. But at least if Topps isnt willing to correct it for him then he isnt out anything. He bought the card as is. If he really wants to get the card signed that bad then fine, go ahead and do it. There is no problem with that. The main issue on this entire thread has been the fact that he is trying to say that it is ok if he now peels off stickers from other real Topps certified auto and places them on this auto which is not certified by them. The fact if the auto is real or not doesnt mean anything, he is still tampering with the card by doing this. Just because you feel that a company has screwed up doesnt mean you now have the right to take it into your own hands and fix their own mistakes. Either continue to contact them to try to get them to do something about it or file a lawsuit.

[tmoore_25]

I guess I will continue to feed the beast. I have no idea what I am talking about because I am no expert, but neither does the OP so I guess that makes it alright. I found some holes that I believe make your statement of the extremely rare 1/1 error card incorrect.

1. There has been proof shown that the same card you have is available out there on the market as an unautographed unstickered card. So that's a strike for your 1/1 theory.

2. If Topps meant to autograph that card and it just so happened to stick to the back of the card in front of it, then yours would be a card with an auto and no sticker, or a card with a sticker and no auto. Yours has neither. I highly doubt it somehow as a superfracter got sandwich between two other autographed cards and "slipped" past the eyes of someone. Strike two.

3. Topps isn't stupid enough to just give you the hologram sticker that you are asking for. They would be contributing to your fraud. I highly doubt you can just peel the sticker off the back of another card without causing damage to the sticker in some way. Wrinkling, tearing, or part of the hologram portion remaining on the original card. Strik three.

I believe what this really is is what we now sort of call a redemption. Topps probably made the cards with the intent on getting A-Rod to sign them all but maybe could not get him to sign all of the cards. Maybe he only agreed to sign 150 or something like that. Therefore they were forced to release the rest of the cards as non-autographed base versions. Hence no sticker COA.

That's the ballgame folks. But hey it was an interesting read and actually helped my boring day at work go by a little quicker.

[davepeters239]

Originally Posted by free2131

Except it isn't.

I understand your want to have a really expensive card, but you honestly don't. You have been given many examples of other cards EXACTLY like yours, but you refuse to believe your's isn't the 1/1. You been given evidence that the 1/1 was a Superfractor, yet you claim that it isn't true and your card is the 1/1. There is a word for that. There is also an interesting article you may want to check out that involves your mindset.

I'm sorry that this card isn't what you think and/or want it to be, and I hope when you eventually accept the fact that it isn't you won't be too depressed about it.

Could you please tell me what this card is then

I already know for sure this is the 1 of 1 card and it is not a superfractor.

The superfractor thing is a misprint or something

[luck15hope]

[lambeauleap87]

Originally Posted by davepeters239

Could you please tell me what this card is then

I already know for sure this is the 1 of 1 card and it is not a superfractor.

The superfractor thing is a misprint or something

He's gotta be trolling now...right?

How do you know for sure it's a 1/1?